In The Pocket

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'Our Love Is In The Pocket' by J. J. Barnes - or if you're Darrell Banks 'Our Love (Is in The Pocket)'.

And then there was guy's unissued 'In The Pocket' instrumental thing (how good was that!).

Got me thinking ... what does 'In The Pocket' actually mean?

Well - turns out in music it relates, at least to drumming, to something like:

When a drummer plays a groove that "is very solid and with a great feel...", this is referred to informally as being "in the pocket"; when a drummer "maintains this feel for an extended period of time, never wavering, this is often referred to as a deep pocket.

Well, I know we can all relate to that description

Then I thought about 'love' as in J.J. and Darrell saying 'Our Love Is In The Pocket' and I found this:

Originally created by Tabi Bonney, a Washington DC area hip hop artist. "Put me in the pocket.. that's when somebody excites you, know what i'm sayin', you see a girl that's tight or somethin'.. she put you in the pocket", Tabi. So when you see somethin' you like, it puts you in the pocket.

Or if a gurl look good she can put u in da pocket meaning she given u her numba

What a load of word w*nk that last lot is!

Of course "In the pocket" also has a rather derogatory meaning such as (made up example) "The police are in the pocket of the politicians".

Can anyone enlighten me on what the authentic 1960s American meaning of 'In The Pocket' was please?

Cheers

Richard

Edited December 26, 2012 by Premium Stuff

[pikeys dog]

Pick Me Up And Put Me In Your Pocket - is another..

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Pick Me Up And Put Me In Your Pocket - is another..

Yes but that's more about what someone want's someone else to do, kind of symbolically - put me in your pocket - look after me, love me, protect me kind of thing.

J.J. and Darrell describe how 'love is ...'

Richard

[paultp]

Not my definition but something found on google:

"When a drummer plays a groove that "is very solid and with a great feel...", this is referred to informally as being "in the pocket"; when a drummer "maintains this feel for an extended period of time, never wavering, this is often referred to as a deep pocket."^[15]

Might be?

[paultp]

Or possibly from American football:

"In American football, the pocket refers to the horse-shoe shaped area formed by offensive lineman to protect the quarterback during a passing play. If the lineman do their job, the pocket will protect the QB long enough for him to find an open receiver and throw. If a defensive player penetrates the pocket too quickly, the QB will likely get sacked."

So the quarterback is usually safe whilst "in the pocket"

[billysbag]

just to add another facet,you can put aball in the back of the pocket. so our love is in the pocket could be it is secure,,,,or it means he has only one ball secure and any other balls may still be wandering about, or all balls may be loose except for the one that is er in the pocket ,so to speak.

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Not my definition but something found on google:

"When a drummer plays a groove that "is very solid and with a great feel...", this is referred to informally as being "in the pocket"; when a drummer "maintains this feel for an extended period of time, never wavering, this is often referred to as a deep pocket."^[15]

Might be?

Yea - I said that above with the exact quote! Too much turkey? :lol:

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Or possibly from American football:

"In American football, the pocket refers to the horse-shoe shaped area formed by offensive lineman to protect the quarterback during a passing play. If the lineman do their job, the pocket will protect the QB long enough for him to find an open receiver and throw. If a defensive player penetrates the pocket too quickly, the QB will likely get sacked."

So the quarterback is usually safe whilst "in the pocket"

Maybe - like our love is safe?

Cheers

Richard

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just to add another facet,you can put aball in the back of the pocket. so our love is in the pocket could be it is secure,,,,or it means he has only one ball secure and any other balls may still be wandering about, or all balls may be loose except for the one that is er in the pocket ,so to speak.

Too many balls going on there mate - but I think the 'safe' thing might apply again?

Cheers

Richard

[Robbk]

Well, I was a " '60s American". "In The Pocket" meant exactly the same as "In The Groove". It was a music term used by Jazz musicians when everyone was jamming together and they hit a point where they were really working well together. They hit a groove, and remained in it. I guess that George Clinton, Rose Marie McCoy and J.J. Jackson (as well as Darrell Banks and J.J. Barnes meant that the singer's love relationship with their girlfriend had really hit a high point , got into a plateau there (groove) and remained there.

[Northern Soul Uk]

How about 'In the pocket - The Brothers'? Lyrics are 'Got it, in the pocket', same thing I think.

[dthedrug]

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Yea - I said that above with the exact quote! Too much turkey? :lol:

Too much turkey and everything else!

Knackered from sailing two races yesterday as well. Up at Yorkshire Dales SC today for the annual "Brass Monkey" races, so I'll probably post more rubbish this evening

[Guest Polyvelts]

You're all wrong.

I'm a keen ten pin bowler and when bowling the best place for your ball to hit the pins to give you the biggest chance of a strike is between the front pin (1) and the one behind it (3), all the pins are numbered and this position is known as the 1-3 pocket, hence the term "in the pocket". For left handed bowlers the 1-2 pocket applies.

[Guest Nick Harrison]

Did not Jimmy White and Steve Davis do a lot of this throughout there careers ?

It's a term used to loosely describe " keep safe " cherish or look after !

[Chalky]

Used to be a centre half and if we had the forward in our pocket it meant he never got a kick or sniff of goal.

[Sean Hampsey]

I've always interpreted it as 'it's in the bag'.

Anything that's a dead cert, right on the money, stitched up tight, is in the bag (or in the pocket) whether it's a tight groove or something safe and secure.

In the bag.

Sean

[Patto]

Used to be a centre half and if we had the forward in our pocket it meant he never got a kick or sniff of goal.

Yes remember that old school football term well Chalky.I was a striker and a good un as a kid.Once after skinning a giant center half and scoring a cracking goal i said to him on the way back to half way line " you ain't got any pockets in them shorts mate nowt to put me in today".To which his reply was " No you clever Shit but i got big deep ones in my trousers back in the changing rooms and thats were your going after the game :(

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Not my definition but something found on google:

"When a drummer plays a groove that "is very solid and with a great feel...", this is referred to informally as being "in the pocket"; when a drummer "maintains this feel for an extended period of time, never wavering, this is often referred to as a deep pocket."^[15]

Might be?

Or a guitatrist,meaning in the groove,you can whats called sit back in pocket ,ie maintain a high groove,using even one chord say or vamping between two to build up a rythmn pattern then keep it going staying in that groove,definatley a musical term originaly as I know it irom the American context.Used a lot to refer

er to type of guitar play in soul,r nb etc.The other instruments then pick up and join that groove and youre all ending up together in the pocket"Stay there,right in the pocket",.Like any any other or most other terms can be adapted to describe love and emotion between man and woman,ie you got your love hit the the groove with her,,shes the one you want ,youre going to stay there you say to her "our love is in the pocket!".You dont want it to be anywhere else you want it remain right there in thee"Pocket".You dont want it to move anywhere else Because you and her are in that groove together,ie you are 100per cent compatible in all ways..

Edited December 27, 2012 by manusf3a

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Like any other or most other terms can be adapted to describe love and emotion between man and woman,ie you got your love hit the the groove with her,,shes the one you want ,youre going to stay there you say to her "our love is in the pocket!".You dont want it to be anywhere else you want it remain right there in thee"Pocket".You dont want it to move anywhere else Because you and her are in that groove together,ie you are 100per cent compatible in all ways..

Oh!! Manus you little romantic

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Thanks for all the replies folks - really enjoyed reading those

Cheers

Richard

[Platters 81]

no youre all wrong..........but ive forgotten why..........."hic"

[Guest manusf3a]

Like any other or most other terms can be adapted to describe love and emotion between man and woman,ie you got your love hit the the groove with her,,shes the one you want ,youre going to stay there you say to her "our love is in the pocket!".You dont want it to be anywhere else you want it remain right there in thee"Pocket".You dont want it to move anywhere else Because you and her are in that groove together,ie you are 100per cent compatible in all ways..

Oh!! Manus you little romantic

Cant help it .I am a believer right down to the toe of me steel toe cap blakyed till you can see no sole soles of my concrete encrusted boots, .seen a little bit of it meself I suppose in the dim and distant but love to see it in the genuine form among freinds and folk I know well,well among anyone if its the true thing.I admit it I am a romantic.For me soul ful lyrics find deep water Edited December 27, 2012 by manusf3a