Breakdown Of Postage Costs

[Pete S]

Don't know if this is of any use to anyone but I've got proper figures for the cost of mailing records so if you think people are overcharging you, you can refer to this list: the mailing costs are from the post office obviously, and the mailers and cardboard are from Covers 33.

BREAKDOWN OF POSTAGE COSTS

IN THE UK

FIRST CLASS

1 X 7" = £1.50

How this is arrived at:

1ST CLASS = 68P

MAILER = 50P

CARDBOARD = 30P

TOTAL £1.48

THIS GETS ROUNDED UP TO £1.50 TO COVER HANDLING, PETROL TO POST OFFICE ETC ETC - that's a profit of 2p

RECORDED DELIVERY IS 68p EXTRA

SO 1 X 7" BY 1ST CLASS RECORDED DELIVERY IS £2.18

FOR EACH EXTRA RECORD ADD 16P

2ND CLASS

1 X 7" = £1.30

How this is arrived at:

2ND CLASS = 50P

MAILER, CARDBOARD ETC REMAIN THE SAME SO TOTAL = £1.30

WITH RECORDED DELIVERY = £1.98

THIS GETS ROUNDED UP TO £2.00 TO COVER HANDLING, PETROL TO POST OFFICE ETC ETC - that's a profit of 2p

FOR EACH EXTRA RECORD ADD 10P

FOR MOST OF EUROPE

1 x7" 1st class airmail = £1.21

Packaging etc = 80p

TOTAL = £2.01

SIGNED FOR REGISTERED MAIL IS £3.50 EXTRA

FOR EACH EXTRA RECORD ADD 15p

FOR USA, JAPAN, AUSTRALIA

1 x7" 1st class airmail = £1.87

Packaging etc = 80p

TOTAL = £2.67

SIGNED FOR REGISTERED MAIL IS £3.50 EXTRA

FOR EACH EXTRA RECORD ADD 30p

LP'S

UK

1 X LP = £2.82

How this is arrived at:

1ST CLASS = £1.90

MAILER = 48p

CARDBOARD = 44p

TOTAL £2.82

RECORDED DELIVERY IS 68p EXTRA

SO 1 X LP BY 1ST CLASS RECORDED DELIVERY IS £3.50

FOR EACH EXTRA RECORD ADD 50p

EUROPE

1 X LP = £4.00

(Postage £3.10 plus 92p packaging materials)

SIGNED FOR DELIVERY IS £3.50 EXTRA

REST OF THE WORLD

1 X LP = £6.06

(Postage £5.14 plus 92p packing materials)

SIGNED FOR DELIVERY IS £3.50 EXTRA

[Denbo]

Well done Pete.

That's very useful. Thanks.

But you watch, you'll get some that will add extras on for their time, certain other overheads, petrol to Post Office and back for example, etc, etc, based on the fact that they are 'running a business'.

Which, within limits, is understandable.

The cost of p&p when selling by collectors is kept low because, well that's just the way we are. But 'dealers' see it differently.

I know you buy and sell just like a dealer but you still think like a collector. I only wish everybody else did too.

I'm currently arguing about p&p from the States at nearly $13. Yes, 13 effin Dollars.

[John Al]

Don't know if this is of any use to anyone but I've got proper figures for the cost of mailing records so if you think people are overcharging you, you can refer to this list: the mailing costs are from the post office obviously, and the mailers and cardboard are from Covers 33.

BREAKDOWN OF POSTAGE COSTS

Thanks Pete, useful stuff and just goes to show ya.........

Not sure if you forgot (or I missed) UK Special Delivery - Guaranteed next day, insurance to 2,500 pounds? Cost = 4.50.

John.

[Craig W]

I find this very usefull for working out postage prices and insurance , destinations etc. Its so easy to use.

https://sg.royalmail.com/portal/rm/PriceFin...ear=pricingcalc

Edited April 25, 2006 by Craig W

[Denbo]

I find this very usefull for working out postage prices and insurance , destinations etc. Its so easy to use.

https://sg.royalmail.com/portal/rm/PriceFin...ear=pricingcalc

This is what I got when I accessed your link;

Sorry...

An error has occurred. We apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused you. Please try again later.

You can access customer services here for further assistance.

Royal Mail | Post Office | Parcelforce Worldwide

Good old Post Office, eh.

[Craig W]

Try it now , it was the wrong link

[Pete S]

I find this very usefull for working out postage prices and insurance , destinations etc. Its so easy to use.

https://sg.royalmail.com/portal/rm/PriceFin...ear=pricingcalc

Yeah great if you know the weight.

I was basing it on people not knowing the weight.

[Geordiejohnson]

Don't know if this is of any use to anyone but I've got proper figures for the cost of mailing records so if you think people are overcharging you, you can refer to this list: the mailing costs are from the post office obviously, and the mailers and cardboard are from Covers 33.

BREAKDOWN OF POSTAGE COSTS

IN THE UK

FIRST CLASS

1 X 7" = £1.50

How this is arrived at:

1ST CLASS = 68P

MAILER = 50P

CARDBOARD = 30P

TOTAL £1.48

THIS GETS ROUNDED UP TO £1.50 TO COVER HANDLING, PETROL TO POST OFFICE ETC ETC - that's a profit of 2p

RECORDED DELIVERY IS 68p EXTRA

SO 1 X 7" BY 1ST CLASS RECORDED DELIVERY IS £2.18

FOR EACH EXTRA RECORD ADD 16P

2ND CLASS

1 X 7" = £1.30

How this is arrived at:

2ND CLASS = 50P

MAILER, CARDBOARD ETC REMAIN THE SAME SO TOTAL = £1.30

WITH RECORDED DELIVERY = £1.98

THIS GETS ROUNDED UP TO £2.00 TO COVER HANDLING, PETROL TO POST OFFICE ETC ETC - that's a profit of 2p

FOR EACH EXTRA RECORD ADD 10P

FOR MOST OF EUROPE

1 x7" 1st class airmail = £1.21

Packaging etc = 80p

TOTAL = £2.01

SIGNED FOR REGISTERED MAIL IS £3.50 EXTRA

FOR EACH EXTRA RECORD ADD 15p

FOR USA, JAPAN, AUSTRALIA

1 x7" 1st class airmail = £1.87

Packaging etc = 80p

TOTAL = £2.67

SIGNED FOR REGISTERED MAIL IS £3.50 EXTRA

FOR EACH EXTRA RECORD ADD 30p

LP'S

UK

1 X LP = £2.82

How this is arrived at:

1ST CLASS = £1.90

MAILER = 48p

CARDBOARD = 44p

TOTAL £2.82

RECORDED DELIVERY IS 68p EXTRA

SO 1 X LP BY 1ST CLASS RECORDED DELIVERY IS £3.50

FOR EACH EXTRA RECORD ADD 50p

EUROPE

1 X LP = £4.00

(Postage £3.10 plus 92p packaging materials)

SIGNED FOR DELIVERY IS £3.50 EXTRA

REST OF THE WORLD

1 X LP = £6.06

(Postage £5.14 plus 92p packing materials)

SIGNED FOR DELIVERY IS £3.50 EXTRA

Pete - you robbing bastard

My 1st is £1.25 recorded a £1.50 with brand new mailers and card

Price Can vary if you use a card envelope mailer or a cardboard box mailer i had this the other day

card envelope 68p

box 75p only one record per box

but since you broke down your box and stuffer prices looks like my last lot of posts went cheap

Geeoooordie

[Pete S]

Pete - you robbing bastard

My 1st is £1.25 recorded a £1.50 with brand new mailers and card

Price Can vary if you use a card envelope mailer or a cardboard box mailer i had this the other day

card envelope 68p

box 75p only one record per box

but since you broke down your box and stuffer prices looks like my last lot of posts went cheap

Geeoooordie

Geordie - I did this list of prices because I thought I was getting it wrong and to show what it really does cost - I was actually charging £1 normal and £1.40 recorded but after the last lot of mailers and card I bought, well it was 200 x 7" mailers, 200 x 7" card, and 200 x 7" paper sleeves - f*cking £96!!! I wonder if there are any factories who make cardboard who would sell cut card to order because it's really expensive. But so is having to chop up millions of boxes with a stanley knife. Where do you get your stuff from cheaper than covers 33 cos I'll definitely try them. TOP TIP OF THE DAY: if you've got a pound shop near you, they usually sell lightweight jiffy bags 5 for a quid...

[Keithw]

Geordie - I did this list of prices because I thought I was getting it wrong and to show what it really does cost - I was actually charging £1 normal and £1.40 recorded but after the last lot of mailers and card I bought, well it was 200 x 7" mailers, 200 x 7" card, and 200 x 7" paper sleeves - f*cking £96!!! I wonder if there are any factories who make cardboard who would sell cut card to order because it's really expensive. But so is having to chop up millions of boxes with a stanley knife. Where do you get your stuff from cheaper than covers 33 cos I'll definitely try them. TOP TIP OF THE DAY: if you've got a pound shop near you, they usually sell lightweight jiffy bags 5 for a quid...

wilton of london is cheaper for me(look in yellow pages)

they tell me a price,i say i want it what i paid last time

then they say oh will have to speak to manager

faced with not getting an order,they so ok this time

of done it for last 10 years

think mailers were 72-00 for 500,will have to check

[John May]

Surely if like myself you buy and sell you can recycle the mailers by turning them inside out and using them again. Also what about the cost of driving to the post office, shouldn't that be taken into account ?

[Guest Awake 502]

For cheap packing materials, boxes, Jiffy bags etc I use these people

https://www.davpack.co.uk/

Excellent service and will make to any size..

[Stuart Bower]

But the fact is people in Britain are being robbed everyday. In the U.S. all this packaging sh*t`s free!!! It`s given away by people like the US mail Service to promote business. Over here we`ll stand for the f****n cat!!!!

Edited April 26, 2006 by The Soul Intention

[Harrogatesoul]

Perhaps one of the USA guys help here - What are the costs of shipping airmail to the UK / Europe ? The disparities are bigger than the UK ebay sellers sometimes.!!!

Rich

[Guest Netspeaky]

Listen Guys, you are only overcharged if you didn't know what the P&P charge was to start with, If someone states that their P&P is £5 then it's £5 don't moan about it. If it's stated it's no different than putting a price on anything else. You have a choice to buy or not to buy, if P&P isn't stated don't buy/bid or at least get it up front then there's no arguement. I don't see why anyone has a problem with this a little common sense is all that's needed. I don't come back with but Pete's showing the true cost, that's bollocks the true cost is what ever the seller is asking not what someone else states it should be. It's a commercial world out there and we have to live by the rules that are played.

[Billy Freemantle]

Listen Guys, you are only overcharged if you didn't know what the P&P charge was to start with, If someone states that their P&P is £5 then it's £5 don't moan about it. If it's stated it's no different than putting a price on anything else. You have a choice to buy or not to buy, if P&P isn't stated don't buy/bid or at least get it up front then there's no arguement. I don't see why anyone has a problem with this a little common sense is all that's needed. I don't come back with but Pete's showing the true cost, that's bollocks the true cost is what ever the seller is asking not what someone else states it should be. It's a commercial world out there and we have to live by the rules that are played.

This is very logical. If we want to have rules about how much P&P should cost. let's have rules bout how much mark-up there should be on a record. Could I suggest that dealers work on cost plus 5p? Need more than that? Why? It's more than they paid, isn't it?

[Pete S]

Listen Guys, you are only overcharged if you didn't know what the P&P charge was to start with, If someone states that their P&P is £5 then it's £5 don't moan about it. If it's stated it's no different than putting a price on anything else. You have a choice to buy or not to buy, if P&P isn't stated don't buy/bid or at least get it up front then there's no arguement. I don't see why anyone has a problem with this a little common sense is all that's needed. I don't come back with but Pete's showing the true cost, that's bollocks the true cost is what ever the seller is asking not what someone else states it should be. It's a commercial world out there and we have to live by the rules that are played.

I'm just breaking it down to show exactly what it costs and therefore how much people are ripping other people off, no surprise to see what your response is.

[Bigsoulman]

I decided against a bid for a record on ebay this week as the guy (within the UK) wanted £3.50 postage...uninsured , i emailed him but got no reply, are these people on this planet?

Lenny