Are Youngsters Coming Through?

[Daz Mc]

No one mentioned OVO, going over to the decks to see if what she is playing is a real un or anything else until you piped up.

It was suggested she tries to move away from the same old same and I replied not at Goodyears...nor the majority of places in the West Midlands. If she is enjoying that then fine, not a problem to me, I wouldn't stop or discourage anyone from doing what they enjoy.

I do encourage youngsters, they are more than welcome at Lifeline All-nighter which is in Natalie's neck of the woods. We are also looking for youngsters with a refreshing outlook but to be honest she wouldn't stand a chance DJing there with that playlist, that isn't a criticism of Natalie it is just not what Lifeline is about.

[barney]

I aint into naming and shaming but if you are on the scene in south or west yorks you may know of it .

have not been there myself but one of the dj,s concerned told me he had had is fee docked for playing boots . which probably is fair enough if they are told its only OVO .

[Jumpinjoan]

Why not? Ok,off topic,but 50% of the scene at least is built on OVO. Are we to look down on folks who are interested in labels now......?

I typed the exact same thing Kev but couldn't be bothered posting, fed up with having to justify what's right. You can't argue / reason with people who don't have the same values / passion / understanding / love for it that you have. And before anyone starts that's not being nasty just how it is. Some people feel it's ok to play boots etc - others don't. Yes the scene may continue but it won't have the same integrity it once had

I just wish it didn't matter so much!

[Chalky]

thankyou well they done a lifeline not so long ago up Brookfields i was going to attend but didnt in the end but when the next one is on ill come in and say hello

February 23rd, our 9th Anniversary.

[Natalie89]

February 23rd, our 9th Anniversary.

ok hopefully see you there

[Jumpinjoan]

ok hopefully see you there

Come and say hello Natalie, we should be there bloody cars permitting

[barney]

I typed the exact same thing Kev but couldn't be bothered posting, fed up with having to justify what's right. You can't argue / reason with people who don't have the same values / passion / understanding / love for it that you have. And before anyone starts that's not being nasty just how it is. Some people feel it's ok to play boots etc - others don't. Yes the scene may continue but it won't have the same integrity it once had

I just wish it didn't matter so much!

I admire the sentiments but reallity is this as was posted on this thread not by me I may add, most women dont give a fook they just like the music . well I would add most punters dont give a fook either , for some on here in the rarified atmosphere thats blasphemy but its true

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[Jumpinjoan]

I admire the sentiments but reallity is this as was posted on this thread not by me I may add, most women dont give a fook they just like the music . well I would add most punters dont give a fook either , for some on here in the rarified atmosphere thats blasphemy but its true

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What's being a woman got to do with anything?

[barney]

What's being a woman got to do with anything?

nowt really just quoting this and it wasnt challenged at the time , read back think its on page 5 .

[barney]

Hi Barney,

I think its more down to the fact that most women don't give a shit about what the label is as long as it sounds good. No being disparaging about women just an observation. My wife has been going to do's since the mid to late 70's and she still asks me to ask the DJ for 'Something I like !!' Note, I say MOST WOMEN, there are some out there that do care but as a ratio to men ..... Yes, got to agree with the Door thing. They always seem to get the shitty end of the stick. They take the money, probably do a lot behind the scenes but the Boys get the Pat on the Back ( Quite right too, know your place Lol !! ) Round of applause please for all the Girls that put in the hours XXX

Back in the early days it used to amaze me how few Black people frequented Soul do's and today, as I said, very few Asians, a bit like Football - but that's for another thread !!

Thanks for the plaudits, Ian always delivers. Not got one now til March ( double booked us with some bloody Dance Class !! )

Take care - Happy New Year XXX

sorry page 6

[Jumpinjoan]

nowt really just quoting this and it wasnt challenged at the time , read back think its on page 5 .

You directly quoted me talking about women and I said what has being a woman got to do with anything?

Doh, here I am ignoring my own advice

[KevH]

I admire the sentiments but reallity is this as was posted on this thread not by me I may add, most women dont give a fook they just like the music . well I would add most punters dont give a fook either , for some on here in the rarified atmosphere thats blasphemy but its true

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Keep on telling yourself that Barney.We will end up with a self-sorting-diluted scene,that resembles some fantasy land from bitd.

[KevH]

You directly quoted me talking about women and I said what has being a woman got to do with anything?

Doh, here I am ignoring my own advice

Women like it harder, i've heard Joan.

Edited January 1, 2013 by KevH

[barney]

You directly quoted me talking about women and I said what has being a woman got to do with anything?

Doh, here I am ignoring my own advice

where have I quoted you talking about women . in answering one of your post which I quoted i pointed out something someone else said about women , not me and not you, someone else .

if you want to have a go then read the posts and do so

[Jumpinjoan]

where have I quoted you talking about women . in answering one of your post which I quoted i pointed out something someone else said about women , not me and not you, someone else .

if you want to have a go then read the posts and do so

Jeez ... taxi !!!!

[barney]

Jeez ... taxi !!!!

[KevH]

[barney]

ok to sum this up and will not quote verbatim but here are some of the comments paraphrased by myself;-

youngsters are welcome on the scene and can dj if they go to different venues and collect OVO and after a period of time after scriming and saving and not given leg ups say after 5 or 6years, provided they complie a cd to send to promoters, prove they are not lazy t*ats, and get down on their knees and beg for a spot. or go away and leave us olduns alone and start their own venues,,

women , most but not all dont give a shit about labels are not bothered they just like the music.they are all right for running the door ,cloak rooms and making the sarnies , and some venue even had a resident female dj back in the day.

OVO shall be played at all times as it as always been except back in the day when thousands of boots were bought and played and nobody gave a fook then .

ps I dont really agree to any of the above

pps this is a work in progress

Edited January 1, 2013 by barney

[Guest Brett F]

Well I double decked so didn't play a full set on my own,but I played 60s up tempo

Wilson Pickett - let me be your boy

Gene chandler - Mr big shot

Thelma lindsey - prepared to love you

Johnny sales - I can't get enough

Salvador - stick by me baby

Tomangoes - I really love you

Freddie chavez- they'll never know why

Precision - if this is love

But I had the best time in my life can't wait to do it again

Nat x

Natalie i'm assuming you have all the originals of the records you've listed, and that is to be commended, Wow, i always loved from a young age the Salvadors, but never owned it, well done, put the time and effort in, find tunes that you like, give yourself a unique angle, then you may in time achieve your personal goals.

Brett

[Guest Soultown andy]

Natalie i'm assuming you have all the originals of the records you've listed, and that is to be commended, Wow, i always loved from a young age the Salvadors, but never owned it, well done, put the time and effort in, find tunes that you like, give yourself a unique angle, then you may in time achieve your personal goals.

Brett

You saucy devil brett,tin hat time .Happy new year hope you are well.

[Guest gordon russell]

I typed the exact same thing Kev but couldn't be bothered posting, fed up with having to justify what's right. You can't argue / reason with people who don't have the same values / passion / understanding / love for it that you have. And before anyone starts that's not being nasty just how it is. Some people feel it's ok to play boots etc - others don't. Yes the scene may continue but it won't have the same integrity it once had

I just wish it didn't matter so much!

IT,S WHATS IN THE GROOVES THAT COUNT

[Guest Brett F]

IT,S WHATS IN THE GROOVES THAT COUNT

Agreed....BUT THE REAL GROOVES,NOT SOME FAUX, ILLEGAL COPY, THAT BY THE WAY SOUNDS GOD AWFUL, GEEZ WHERE IS THE RESPECT FOR THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE ACTUAL RECORD AND NOT SOME CHANCER GETTING RICH OFF SOMEBODY ELSE'S BACK AND HARD WORK.... YOU PEOPLE WANNA LOOK A BIT DEEPER THAN THE BLOODY GROOVES...THESE PEOPLE GAVE US THE MUSIC...IF ALL YOU WANT IS EASY ACCESS TO THIS FABULOUS VOLUME OF WORK, , THEN GO BUY THE COMPLETE AND LEGITIMATE BACK CATALOGUE OF KENT/ACE RECORDS/CD'S, PLENTY OF SUPERB NORTHERN SOUL AVAILABLE THERE...

[Guest gordon russell]

How about youngsters and others just going out for a good time....to much to ask!!!.....and whats this about sending cd,s to the promoter for a spot......utter bollox.....people should attend the f**king club of choice that plays what they like......this itself is a major problem with all dj,s thats why so many f**k up.....what arrogance to want to dj at a club they have no intention of frequenting can,t be bothered to go ,but give me a dj spot....my reply NO!....Don,t happen at the batcave. Lastly surely any dj must play the music the club plays.......it,s no good djing at a place playing your choice selections of r&b stompers for instance when it,s a modern venue ect ect.....sometimes people can,t/won,t see for looking

[Guest gordon russell]

Agreed....BUT THE REAL GROOVES,NOT SOME FAUX, ILLEGAL COPY, THAT BY THE WAY SOUNDS GOD AWFUL, GEEZ WHERE IS THE RESPECT FOR THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE ACTUAL RECORD AND NOT SOME CHANCER GETTING RICH OFF SOMEBODY ELSE'S BACK AND HARD WORK.... YOU PEOPLE WANNA LOOK A BIT DEEPER THAN THE BLOODY GROOVES...THESE PEOPLE GAVE US THE MUSIC...IF ALL YOU WANT IS EASY ACCESS TO THIS FABULOUS VOLUME OF WORK, , THEN GO BUY THE COMPLETE AND LEGITIMATE BACK CATALOGUE OF KENT/ACE RECORDS/CD'S, PLENTY OF SUPERB NORTHERN SOUL AVAILABLE THERE...

I give up .......l was just taking the piss

[Guest Brett F]

I give up .......l was just taking the piss

Gordon, its a forum, that in itself is about debate, i didn't direct my post against yours, i'm astonished you didn't read the bigger picture, my post was about the nonsense of bootlegs etc, you are obviously sensitive..........don't be.

[barney]

Agreed....BUT THE REAL GROOVES,NOT SOME FAUX, ILLEGAL COPY, THAT BY THE WAY SOUNDS GOD AWFUL, ELSE'S BACK AND HARGEEZ WHERE IS THE RESPECT FOR THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE ACTUAL RECORD AND NOT SOME CHANCER GETTING RICH OFF SOMEBODY D WORK.... YOU PEOPLE WANNA LOOK A BIT DEEPER THAN THE BLOODY GROOVES...THESE PEOPLE GAVE US THE MUSIC...IF ALL YOU WANT IS EASY ACCESS TO THIS FABULOUS VOLUME OF WORK, , THEN GO BUY THE COMPLETE AND LEGITIMATE BACK CATALOGUE OF KENT/ACE RECORDS/CD'S, PLENTY OF SUPERB NORTHERN SOUL AVAILABLE THERE...

I have deep respect for the artists and what do they get from the OVO in the main naff all , it all goes to dealers so dont come with that old chestnut .

Edited January 1, 2013 by barney

[Guest Brett F]

I have deep respect for the artists and what do they get from the OVO in the main naff all , it all goes to dealers so dont come with that old chestnut .

Not an old chesnut, i've seen and met many an artist and producer, arranger over the years, would you for instance present a bootleg copy 45' before Darrow Fletcher to sign/autograph and walk away happy with that situation....Well whenever i've met any of the aforementioned soul people , i've always brought with me original records, and yes their eyes lit up, they felt honoured to sign such items, Richard Caiton this April at Soul Essence told me he didn't even own the Malaco 45' i asked him to sign, but his face lit up with joy that i had brought it along to play .( i played his 45'at Essence, i hasten to add because i was on the dj rosta)

Edited January 1, 2013 by Brett F

[KevH]

I have deep respect for the artists and what do they get from the OVO in the main naff all , it all goes to dealers so dont come with that old chestnut .

But were'nt most traditional NS tunes flops in the first place? So the artist got naff all first time around.Who are the dealers you speak of.?

[barney]

well records on here go for thousands of pounds where does that money go , how much goes to the original artists , none ,if thats right then so be it but dont use the artists to futher the OVO cause at least with legit re-issues there are some royalties to come . yes Brett asking the original artist to sign a boot would be a disgrace.

[Pk 22dj]

Plenty going on in Europe with the young un's or is it only this country that's aloud to keep it going?I think it will go back to the early days of the scene with small venues & few handfuls of devotees keeping it alive,don't see anything wrong with that as few with passion is far better then hundreds without it.

Cheers

Martyn

Totally correct mate, I attend events in Valencia where I would say the ave age would be 24 or so, they are mad for it as much as we were back then. The DJ have all the top tunes and the dress code is like going back in time apart from the stupid baggy trousers, which is not such a bad thing. Europe is Northern Souls way forward, people with hair etc ha ha.

[Guest gordon russell]

well records on here go for thousands of pounds where does that money go , how much goes to the original artists , none ,if thats right then so be it but dont use the artists to futher the OVO cause at least with legit re-issues there are some royalties to come . yes Brett asking the original artist to sign a boot would be a disgrace.

Well thats a bit daft....audi sell a car for 50k....thats that.....if the buyer can sell it for 100k nothing to do with audi..........plus the most amount of artists were ripped off by their own countrymen.....maybe the buck stops with them

[barney]

Well thats a bit daft....audi sell a car for 50k....thats that.....if the buyer can sell it for 100k nothing to do with audi..........plus the most amount of artists were ripped off by their own countrymen.....maybe the buck stops with them

correct but Im not advocating that only original audi cars are allowed at soul do,s

[Guest Brett F]

well records on here go for thousands of pounds where does that money go , how much goes to the original artists , none ,if thats right then so be it but dont use the artists to futher the OVO cause at least with legit re-issues there are some royalties to come . yes Brett asking the original artist to sign a boot would be a disgrace.

Barney, i don't know you, you have faced all the questions, and been against the wall in this thread, i have no axe to grind, each to their own i say, thankfully the bootleg scenario is with your agreement, with reference to the artist and their records, well surely we all work and get a reward, if i sell my house and get a profit i don't expect years down the line to get a cut of that profit, but if somebody tried to sell my product as their own when it obviously wasn't i would be upset.

[Pete Eccles]

Just a thought,

'Back in the day we all bought bootlegs' is a common comment and very true, but back then apart from cassettes it was the only way to own and listen to the tunes,

Today with the advantage of technology we can listen to almost anything any time in the comfort of our own home, so why on earth would a youngster starting out want to lug a heavy box of boots around when they can carry 1000s of tracks on their key ring?

Surely the only good reason for carrying heavy boxes all over the shop is because what's in those boxes is worth the effort?

[KevH]

Just a thought,

'Back in the day we all bought bootlegs' is a common comment and very true, but back then apart from cassettes it was the only way to own and listen to the tunes,

Today with the advantage of technology we can listen to almost anything any time in the comfort of our own home, so why on earth would a youngster starting out want to lug a heavy box of boots around when they can carry 1000s of tracks on their key ring?

Surely the only good reason for carrying heavy boxes all over the shop is because what's in those boxes is worth the effort?

Oh no... ......

[barney]

Barney, i don't know you, you have faced all the questions, and been against the wall in this thread, i have no axe to grind, each to their own i say, thankfully the bootleg scenario is with your agreement, with reference to the artist and their records, well surely we all work and get a reward, if i sell my house and get a profit i don't expect years down the line to get a cut of that profit, but if somebody tried to sell my product as their own when it obviously wasn't i would be upset.

Brett if you care to read my posts I have not and do not advocate the wholesale playing of bootlegs or any illegtamate recordings , but I would not persecute someone who plays the odd boot ,say if its a request , theres nowt wrong with cds or re-issues in my book ,and why shoold we have to put with antiquated technology we are in the 21st century now , whats wrong with laptops if the dues have been paid

[Guest Brett F]

Brett if you care to read my posts I have not and do not advocate the wholesale playing of bootlegs or any illegtamate recordings , but I would not persecute someone who plays the odd boot ,say if its a request , theres nowt wrong with cds or re-issues in my book ,and why shoold we have to put with antiquated technology we are in the 21st century now , whats wrong with laptops if the dues have been paid

Barney, i seem to repeat myself even to the point that i am bored with hearing or reading it....But surely the rare soul scene is built upon original records being found and then played, yes it's elitist, but so what, i don't wanna be involved in an everyday Joe Bloggs world, my music is the best ever made, the pleasure as a collector ( i count myself as one) is immense, i could care less what age you are what colour your skin is or if you piss standing up or sat down. I love soul music, this is my life and has been since i was a teenager, but and it's a big 'But' the whole envelope has been one of true records, wrapped up within this whole wonderful world, without that for me it would be ordinary, i didn't want it easy, i like and love the challenge of finding original records, even on this site many years back to get an email from Ted Massey asking him to do a Cd of 70's tracks i had was an immense honour and a pleasure. Perhaps you Barney don't dig that deep (and nothing wrong if you don't )..But i like that level, it suits my personality, the rare records, the hunt, I have the desire to chase things, that i may never get...I love the sounds that emit from the speakers at any club as much as you, but there is so much more involved when you get involved in the whole Soul world.

[barney]

I feel sorry for you Brett to be saddled with such a single mindedness is not healthy to me , soul music is part of my life and always has and will be , and I mean the music ,not 7inch vinyl discs, all of my social life all my friends and even my holidays revolve around soul music , it even comes into my other passion scooters in the form of old lambrettas and similar ovo arguments exist in the scooter world believe me , but surely lifes too short too fall out over the details , the difference is your a collector first and do give a damn , I am only interested with what comes out of the speakers ,

all of this debate started when I stated that ovo was an obsticle which in my view younsters and aspiring women dj,s have to overcome , and the old entrenched hegemony of fat balding old boys who dominate the scene and have gathered the records over the years, and I think use the OVO to keep it elitist ,maybe this was a cackhanded generalisation but it has shaken some feathers

well I am for inclusion if we continue down the elitist route then we are doomed

[Guest Droylsdonian]

I have deep respect for the artists and what do they get from the OVO in the main naff all , it all goes to dealers so dont come with that old chestnut .

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Yep, hit the nail on the head; although that isn't the reason why certain folk object to boots, of course. Perhaps we should have a fresh legal system of royalties - let's call it Value Added Royalty - in which a dealer (or any other owner) has to pay over a %age of his profit on the sale of an original. Of course, we don't need a change in the law to outlaw fakes, be they records or owt else.

Elitism has been well proven to be the road to ruin in sport (especially) & many other aspects of life. It beggars belief - or would, other than for vested interests - that anyone advocates that the soundwaves from a speaker should be sourced from a single batch of original 45s in order to be legit. Their legitimacy arises not from their source, but their quality.

I'd wager that if you asked Spyder Turner (which you can, shortly) whether he would have preferred obscurity & rarity value by only being heard by a limited audience - as opposed to being widely known through boots & attaining the status of a NS deity, debuting in this country at his stage - he'd answer the latter.

[Pete Eccles]

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Yep, hit the nail on the head; although that isn't the reason why certain folk object to boots, of course. Perhaps we should have a fresh legal system of royalties - let's call it Value Added Royalty - in which a dealer (or any other owner) has to pay over a %age of his profit on the sale of an original. Of course, we don't need a change in the law to outlaw fakes, be they records or owt else.

Elitism has been well proven to be the road to ruin in sport (especially) & many other aspects of life. It beggars belief - or would, other than for vested interests - that anyone advocates that the soundwaves from a speaker should be sourced from a single batch of original 45s in order to be legit. Their legitimacy arises not from their source, but their quality.

I'd wager that if you asked Spyder Turner (which you can, shortly) whether he would have preferred obscurity & rarity value by only being heard by a limited audience - as opposed to being widely known through boots & attaining the status of a NS deity, debuting in this country at his stage - he'd answer the latter.

Probably not put as eloquently as the above, but I think I'm correct in thinking Spyder Turner, or any other artist would have never been recognised in NS terms if the original release of any 45 had not been found and played, before it was ever bootlegged, the point being any artist may be grateful that their release was served to the masses via dodgy vinyl they must ultimately be grateful it was discovered in the first place, if this didn't happen there would be no 'latter' and won't be again,

[Guest Droylsdonian]

Can't argue with 340, but the whole matter can be resolved with a simple question:

If NS is to be your legacy to your kids, would you rather it be:

A A deep-seated love of the music; or

B A boxful of plastic?

[Pete Eccles]

Can't argue with 340, but the whole matter can be resolved with a simple question:

If NS is to be your legacy to your kids, would you rather it be:

A A deep-seated love of the music; or

B A boxful of plastic?

Glad you can't argue with 340, personally I have no interest whatsoever what my 4 grown up kids think, in return neither have they any interest in my records, my only point is how will the thing move on, even at a snails pace (even the most dyed in the wool oldies fan warms to another tune every now and then) if everyone is pointlessly lugging the same box of 200 boots around?

That new discovery for that artist, that then gets booted won't happen surely?

If there's no original there's no boot

Edited January 1, 2013 by Pete60

[Guest Droylsdonian]

Glad you can't argue with 340, personally I have no interest whatsoever what my 4 grown up kids think, in return neither have they any interest in my records, my only point is how will the thing move on, even at a snails pace (even the most dyed in the wool oldies fan warms to another tune every now and then) if everyone is pointlessly lugging the same box of 200 boots around?

That new discovery for that artist, that then gets booted won't happen surely?

If there's no original there's no boot

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That's the whole point, mate. There is very finite scope for 'moving on' in NS. It is what it is & doesn't need to move on; there will be some undiscovered sounds out there, but they aren't any Holy Grail, are they?

Take a look at what Natalie played. She hasn't moved on.

Why do a fresh generation need to 'move on'? Why can't they just enjoy what we do/did?

I still enjoy ribs & cabbage; I like foreign food as well, but it ain't 'proper food' - if you get me drift.

[Pete Eccles]

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That's the whole point, mate. There is very finite scope for 'moving on' in NS. It is what it is & doesn't need to move on; there will be some undiscovered sounds out there, but they aren't any Holy Grail, are they?

Take a look at what Natalie played. She hasn't moved on.

Why do a fresh generation need to 'move on'? Why can't they just enjoy what we do/did?

I still enjoy ribs & cabbage; I like foreign food as well, but it ain't 'proper food' - if you get me drift.

Doesn't need to move on? Are you honestly suggesting Natalie will have that play list forever? that she won't change her tastes as she grows? That something maybe Chalky plays at the next lifeline won't inspire her?

You say Natalie hasn't moved on, I'd like to bet there was a time she didn't know any of that play list, isn't that moving on?

Don't misunderstand me, I'm hardly a trailblazer of all things new, quite the opposite, but everyone having every big hitting 45 on dodgy vinyl in heavy boxes. won't last very long, it challenges no-one and will soon become stale, more stale than it already is,

Edited January 2, 2013 by Pete60

[barney]

gentlemen we are moving off topic this is about youngsters and the future .

do we want the scene to die out with us the present middle aged keepers of the faith or do we want it to live forever kept going by future generations

[Guest Droylsdonian]

Doesn't need to move on? Are you honestly suggesting Natalie will have that play list forever? that she won't change her tastes as she grows? That something maybe Chalky plays at the next lifeline won't inspire her?

You say Natalie hasn't moved on, I'd like to bet there was a time she didn't know any of that play list, isn't that moving on?

Don't misunderstand me, I'm hardly a trailblazer of all things new, quite the opposite, but everyone having every big hitting 45 on dodgy vinyl in heavy boxes. won't last very long, it challenges no-one and will soon become stale, more stale than it already is,

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No, she hasn't 'moved on' from the music I learnt to love. And, to go back to my original point on this fred about boots, I bought loads of them, so that I could listen to them at home, as well as when I could afford to go out to hear them. If I'd not worn out me folks' carpets dancing to pressings, I probably would have lost interest between times.

I listen to CDs of tapes of pressings. How shockingly sad is that?

[Grayman45]

I hope the youngsters don't come on this web site too much. They'll be brainwashed into thinking the Soul scene is just one big argument. Starting to think that way myself.

[Pete Eccles]

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No, she hasn't 'moved on' from the music I learnt to love. And, to go back to my original point on this fred about boots, I bought loads of them, so that I could listen to them at home, as well as when I could afford to go out to hear them. If I'd not worn out me folks' carpets dancing to pressings, I probably would have lost interest between times.

I listen to CDs of tapes of pressings. How shockingly sad is that?

At home/in the car I listen to all kinds of formats, but you stating a 23 year old of today hasn't 'moved on' from what you learned is ridiculous, she is, relatively speaking, just starting out,

By your guidelines it's OK for Natalie to remain within the boundaries of your history, carry a box of dodgy records that you wore your parents carpet out to, and that will keep the flame burning?

Back on topic, if you really expect todays 'technology smart' youth to carry heavy boxes of fake vinyl round for any length of time then I'm afraid it aint gonna happen, they either get the collecting bug (as some have) or it ain't happening,

[barney]

think the days of someone going over to the states and rummaging round in some backstreet store/ warehouse / studio and finding a mint copy of an unknown never heard or played before monster northern soul hit have long gone . maybe from some studio master tape by some enterprising employee but not joe or jan punter , best we can look forward to are new music ,new covers , remixes which will all be found on this medium the internet

[barney]

I hope the youngsters don't come on this web site too much. They'll be brainwashed into thinking the Soul scene is just one big argument. Starting to think that way myself.

the majority of folk on the soul scene dont come on here and if they do its for the events guide ..

there always will be the usual suspects on here and its a small dwindling band

ps bring back webbo

Edited January 2, 2013 by barney