George E. Smith Conclave V/s Bojo

[Tlscapital]

I have a Conclave copy and indeed was struck to discover that a Bojo release existed. Is it really a first issue or is it something else ?

Looking at the credits on both issues I would wonder if Horace Ott would have done the arrangements (and they are great !) and have agreed not to be credited on a first issue (the Bojo one) to start with ?

Then there's a certain Nat Badger who also appears on both Gerge E. Smith & Mary Davis Conclave release that isn't credited on the composer's credit for the Bojo release. Why should he not be mentioned on Bojo ?

Who is Nat Badger BTW ? Is it George E. Smith's real name ? That would explain the name change/swap for the composition on 'don't find me guilty' on Bojo.

Finally, on the Bojo release the 'A' side is 'human' and not 'don't find me guilty' like on the Conclave. His private press album on Bojo, that seem later than late 6T's, is also titled 'I'm only human'. So wouldn't it make sense that there was a 'revival' locally or widelly of 'human' or of Gerge's version more particullary to see a 'private press' re-release. Making the Bojo release a second edition (maybe not fully legit) followed with an LP that seem more to be late 7T's anyway (wich I never had in my hands so I can't judge better what that LP is made of) ?

To prevent any back fire shouts I want to stress that I'm not trying to pretend that I know for fact what I'm implying here, I'm just trying to see if what I thing to be often wrongly presented as first press on Bojo could actually be a second private press thing or not. Looking at all the 'hints' or questions I've provide here above, prove me right or wrong.

Any light shed on this is welcome one way or the other.

Cheers, Tim

[Sean Hampsey]

I have the "don't find me guilty" 10" Acetate and it has yet another flipside.

I know that doesn't answer your question, but thought it related.

Sean

[Tlscapital]

Hi Sean, OK, cheers for that, but does the label of your acetate give any leads on way or the other ? Like Corbel music and/or McCoy music or Teac music? Cheers, Tim

[Dave Pinch]

you could well be barking up the right tree tim.....the rare soul mentality is to always assume rarest issue to be first issue...not always the case.and what you say above suggests conclave to be first

[Sean Hampsey]

Hi Sean, OK, cheers for that, but does the label of your acetate give any leads on way or the other ? Like Corbel music and/or McCoy music or Teac music? Cheers, Tim

No Info to speak of mate, other than He was nearly a 'Smityh' by the look of the 'Guilty' side.

:0)

Sean

[Sean Hampsey]

The LP is on Bojo and apparantley (from those advertised around the net) from 1984.

I would say the Bojo 45 is most probably also from this period.

The Conclave 45 looks a helluva lot earlier (late 60's).

Like you - wouldn't go out on a limb on this - just my tuppeneth!

Sean

Edited December 19, 2012 by Sean Hampsey