boba Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 no never charted or anything silly like that but i agree theres been more on ebay than any other shrine 45....the hem release is better and much rarer by todays standards imho The hem release is clearly rarer but I don't know how you could say it's better. It's pretty much a copy / answer record to the first one and has pretty much the same sound. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 And the remixed versions! and the original acetates ...tommy knight etc Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 The hem release is clearly rarer but I don't know how you could say it's better. It's pretty much a copy / answer record to the first one and has pretty much the same sound. your mind`s in a bind bob 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 your mind`s in a bind bob at least it's on vinyl 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 The hem release is clearly rarer but I don't know how you could say it's better. It's pretty much a copy / answer record to the first one and has pretty much the same sound. wasnt rarer in the 90`s ..the hem 45 was cheap then Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 For those of us that have none, if you were allowed two, which one's would you have? Shirley Edwards & Ray Pollard for me. I wonder (currently) which is the most expensive/desirable? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) and the original acetates ...tommy knight etc I mentioned that earlier! Clarkie lent me it to take a cut back in'87, unfortunately the sound is a bit thin. Edited December 14, 2012 by Tony Smith Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I think the Epsilons is clearly the best record on the label. That's why it was a regional hit making it more common (albeit beat up) -- it's a great record. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
JOE TORQUAY Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 HI, WERE THERE ANY OTHER SHRINE SINGLES RELEASED ON OTHER LABLES BEFORE THERE WAS A SHRINE LABLE OR AFTER IT FINISHED ???. JOE. 20 according all discographies on t'internet SR-100Linda (Tate) & Vistas — Bad Apple / He Went Away (commemorates death of JFK that same month) SR-101Leroy Taylor & The Four Kays — Taking My Time / I’ll Understand (1964) SR-102Jimmy Armstrong — I’m About To Say Goodbye / Mystery SR-103Ray Pollard — No More Like Me / This Time SR-104Cautions — Watch Your Step / Isn’t It Right SR-105Jimmy Armstrong — I Believe I’ll Love On / It’s Gonna Take Love (Unreleased) SR-106Epsilons — Mad At The World / I’m So Devoted SR-107D.C. Blossoms — I Know About Her / Hey Boy (1966) SR-108J.D. Bryant — Walk On / I Won’t Be Coming Back SR-109Sidney Hall — The Weekend / I’m A Lover SR-110Shirley Edwards — It’s Your Love / Dream SR-111The Cairo’s — Stop Overlooking Me / Don’t Fight It SR-112Eddie Daye & The Four Bars — Guess Who Loves You / What Am I Gonna Do SR-113 Bill Dennis — I’ll Never Let You Get Away / Poor Little Fool SR-114Les Chansonettes — Don’t Let Him Hurt You / Deeper SR-115Cautions — No Other Way / Poor Loser SR-116Prophets — If I Had (One Gold Piece) / Huh Baby SR-117The Counts — Peaches Baby / My Only Love SR-118Enjoyables — Shame / I’ll Take You Back (1966) SR-119The Cavaliers — Do What I Want / Tighten Up Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) HI, WERE THERE ANY OTHER SHRINE SINGLES RELEASED ON OTHER LABLES BEFORE THERE WAS A SHRINE LABLE OR AFTER IT FINISHED ???. JOE. Not by name, but, the Linda & Pretenders "Believe Me" is close. And Enjoyables on Capitol was supposedly a Shrine recording. Edited December 14, 2012 by Tony Smith 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Not by name, but, the Linda & Pretenders "Believe Me" is close. And Enjoyables on Capitol was supposedly a Shrine recording. I think Believe Me was pre-shrine though. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jaco Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Cant believe that nobody is seriously bigging up "One gold piece" - the epitome of group harmony in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I think Believe Me was pre-shrine though. Only just though Bob, Linda was the same Linda & The Vistas and the production team is the same. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Andy Rix Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) Only just though Bob, Linda was the same Linda & The Vistas and the production team is the same. Linda Tate recorded 'Believe Me/It's Not My Will' and 'He Went Away/Bad Apple' in New York The first version of 'Believe Me', which is slightly faster than the Assault release and features prominent bongos was cut at the A-1 Sound Studio. The second version was recorded at Bell Sound and was scheduled for Prawn Records which I'm sure was one of Eddie Singleton's labels and saw other releases from the Toreadors aka The Matadors, who had releases on Keith Records, named after Eddie's son, ..... it was group members of the Matadors who did backing vocals for Jackie Wilson 'She's Alright' (Brunswick) which is the first known recording of a Ramitary published song and the Ray Pollard and Shirley Edwards Shrine 45s .. plus others of course. Harry Bass was in that group The third version of 'Believe Me' was probably cut at Bell Sound as it is very similar to version 2 .. this was released on Assault. 'He Went Away' was a master Eddie then took to Washington as he had not used it to follow-up the Assault 45 and so released it as the first Shrine 45.. This was also recorded at A-1 Sound Studio ....Abtone was the studio Eddie used for Tommy Knight's 'Don't Bring Back Memories' session.... and Tommy also recorded 'Baby My Love' there I believe, but have never be fully able to confirm, that Linda married Billy Brown of the Moments and if it is the same 'Linda' then she is now deceased. Linda Tate, according to Harry Bass, spent some time with the Ad Libs doing live shows after 'The Boy From NY City' was a hit because Mary Ann Thomas was unavailable to perform. Andy Edited December 14, 2012 by Andy Rix Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Phild Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 The hem release is clearly rarer but I don't know how you could say it's better. It's pretty much a copy / answer record to the first one and has pretty much the same sound. Their Hem release is IMHO a million times better. Horses of courses I suppose. Broad church and all that 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Their Hem release is IMHO a million times better. Horses of courses I suppose. Broad church and all that Think I've lost track of the thread but are people saying that Mind In A Bind is a better record than I'm So Devoted? Can't be true surely... 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve Foran Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 The Larue Lada Edmund Jnr is a Shrine tune in all but label. Thats often remarked upon by JM. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gordon russell Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) this was discussed here recently, but mike noriega was close. Thats what l heard.......didn,t he offer the entire collection (that he had anyway 18).....to someone in england Edited December 14, 2012 by gordon russell Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gordon russell Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) the chansonettes is probably the worst one (and I even own it so I'm not talking down stuff I don't have). best.......leroy taylor eddie day and the 4 bars the cushions watch your step cairos very worst shirley edwards and j.d bryant..........awful beat ballads Edited December 14, 2012 by gordon russell Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 The Larue Lada Edmund Jnr is a Shrine tune in all but label. Thats often remarked upon by JM. Don't know why he says that, apart from being written by Eddie Singleton and 'produced' by Ray(noma?), it sounds like a New York production, nothing like a Shrine record. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy Rix Posted December 14, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2012 i know this is going slightly off-topic but I was just checking to see if I had the list of Ramitary songs, which was in essence the music publishing company for Shrine, that were recorded and released on other labels Anyway I found this old mail from Harry Bass which I thought was so evocative and my mention of the Matadors made me think I should share it. The Epsilons he refers to are not the same group who would record for Shrine .... "Today we are watching the Redskins football game on the T.V. So I will be as brief as possible. The Matadors group actually evolved from a teenager street corner doo-wop ensemble. We were my younger brother Albert who out sang Frankie Lyman on any given day of the week, (more lungs, more clarity of tone and vocal range.)Tommy is my witness. We were all music students in instrumentation notation and voice. Then, we were the Epsilons. I had begun my own music studies at the age of eleven (11) in the public schools of Brooklyn New York. Vocal training for me began in Middle School. The rest of us had started with similar training. Then my friend, it was doo-wop all the way. Roy Scott and Michael Edwards and a cat named Richard Steele joined together with Albert and I to form The Epsilons. We were harmonizing on the Street corner, a block away from our apartment and up walked Tommy Bethea who just joined in singing with us as bass vocal accompaniment. It was indescribably fantastic. Tommy Bethea had the deepest, clearest bass voice in all of Brooklyn. His addition to our ensemble made our group nearly complete. In time we would link up with Richard Tenryke (Ritchie Tee) the classically trained pianist who would travel with us to Broadway for recording auditions and finally for Ed Singleton. (Paul Simon and Roberta flack organized a memorial service for Tee upon Tee's passing) I must say that prior to our marriage my wife Shirley Jean sang and did choreography work with us for about a year. Eddie and the group decided on a new name for us. We would call ourselves the Matadors. Under that name we recorded "If you left me today", on Keith Records, got some air play and could hardly breathe for the excitement this experience generated. Later we realized that another vocal group had the name Matadors. So we became the Toreadors. This was part marketing strategy and also an expression of cultural solidarity with the Spanish speaking community members proliferating in NYC There were many Puerto Rican doo-woppers, same as us and the Italians doing street corner work. Also, the thing was, that we had designed some Matador style costumes and could not afford to scrap the costumes. So we became the Toreadors. Long story short, by the time we had worked the Apollo Theater ,doing back up vocals for Jackie Wilson, Thanksgiving 1964, the group membership had changed a bit to Myself ,Michael Edwards, Roy Scott and a former Marine Corps buddy of Tommy's named Jimmy Hall. Jimmy was barrell-chested and had a first tenor that would knock down walls. You'll hear him when Tommy sends you our "Do You Remember" cuts. Jimmy was a really good friend to everyone in the group; a bit older and wiser about the ways of showbiz. He's another one who got away (we eventually lost contact after our move to D.C.) Finally the cats who remained to sing backing vocals behind Ray Pollard on the Shrine roster, were Michael Edwards, Harry Bass and Tommy Bethea. My younger Brother Albert is now a retiring employee Managerial level for the New York State Port Authority (he’s got about 250 days before his formal retirement from the Federal Government.) Roy Scott and Michael are deceased. Jimmy Hall remains in obscurity. My wife Shirley is by Gods grace alone, with me. This is a fair description of how I got started with my group. Redskins win 14-11. Many thanks for your stated interest, Harry E. Bass" I hope it was of interest Andy 9 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Great read Andy. Thanks. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Don't know why he says that, apart from being written by Eddie Singleton and 'produced' by Ray(noma?), it sounds like a New York production, nothing like a Shrine record. I was thinking the same. I know its Eddie Singleton etc and his publishing company but its a bit of a thin connection to Shrine. I'm sure Eddie did loads of production work elsewhere but that was his job and didn't mean they were Shrine recordings. I would have thought most writers, arrangers and producers etc were happy to find work at whatever company would give them work. Same for Tommy Knight, that's written by Raymona isn't it? Is it a Shrine recording or just other work? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Bobby Reed is a great tune too Cant believe that nobody is seriously bigging up "One gold piece" - the epitome of group harmony in my opinion. great production vocals it has the lot and a firm fave of mine, Bobby Reed aint too shabby either ...... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Question to Andy, where any of the early Shrines recorded in New York? Chalky, Tommy Knight does to me sound like a Shrine recording as it uses similar instrumentation to the early releases in that it uses an Ondioline (early synth) prominent on Ray Pollard, Cautions etc. And Lada Edmunds regardless of Ed's involvement for the time, has none of the typical Shrine elements. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Andy Rix Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I was thinking the same. I know its Eddie Singleton etc and his publishing company but its a bit of a thin connection to Shrine. I'm sure Eddie did loads of production work elsewhere but that was his job and didn't mean they were Shrine recordings. I would have thought most writers, arrangers and producers etc were happy to find work at whatever company would give them work. Same for Tommy Knight, that's written by Raymona isn't it? Is it a Shrine recording or just other work? Eddie said that he wrote 'Don't Bring Back Memories' ... it's pre-Shrine so 'other work' ... he took the acetate to Motown after Shrine closed but put Miss Ray's name forward as the writer as he thought that Berry wouldn't tolerate the recording of anything he's composed. What is interesting is that a Motown collector friend of mine acquired a reel-to-reel of unreleased Motown tracks from the Woodward Building clear out and the Tommy Knight acetate is on this tape ..... and as far as I can tell when comparing the snap, crackle & pop with the acetate that Ian Clark sourced it is in fact the same item.... Eddie thought that the subsequent 4 Tops version did not do the song justice Andy 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Andy Rix Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Question to Andy, where any of the early Shrines recorded in New York? Chalky, Tommy Knight does to me sound like a Shrine recording as it uses similar instrumentation to the early releases in that it uses an Ondioline (early synth) prominent on Ray Pollard, Cautions etc. And Lada Edmunds regardless of Ed's involvement for the time, has none of the typical Shrine elements. I believe only Linda & Vistas was recorded in NY as mentioned previously. I think that a couple of the tracks .. Shirley Edwards & Les Chansonettes ... were pressed and then remixed at Bell Sound in NY then pressed again. This is why there are slight variations and different releases/matrix numbers for those 45s. The Bell Sound studios mixes are annotated as RE-1 in the run-out Andy 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cunnie Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Was told by John Poole that there was a Shrine acetate album but every track was damaged that badly it was unplayable. Don't know how true it is but he swore blind it was right as he had seen it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Lofthouse Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 20 according all discographies on t'internet SR-100Linda (Tate) & Vistas — Bad Apple / He Went Away (commemorates death of JFK that same month) SR-101Leroy Taylor & The Four Kays — Taking My Time / I’ll Understand (1964) SR-102Jimmy Armstrong — I’m About To Say Goodbye / Mystery SR-103Ray Pollard — No More Like Me / This Time SR-104Cautions — Watch Your Step / Isn’t It Right SR-105Jimmy Armstrong — I Believe I’ll Love On / It’s Gonna Take Love (Unreleased) SR-106Epsilons — Mad At The World / I’m So Devoted SR-107D.C. Blossoms — I Know About Her / Hey Boy (1966) SR-108J.D. Bryant — Walk On / I Won’t Be Coming Back SR-109Sidney Hall — The Weekend / I’m A Lover SR-110Shirley Edwards — It’s Your Love / Dream SR-111The Cairo’s — Stop Overlooking Me / Don’t Fight It SR-112Eddie Daye & The Four Bars — Guess Who Loves You / What Am I Gonna Do SR-113 Bill Dennis — I’ll Never Let You Get Away / Poor Little Fool SR-114Les Chansonettes — Don’t Let Him Hurt You / Deeper SR-115Cautions — No Other Way / Poor Loser SR-116Prophets — If I Had (One Gold Piece) / Huh Baby SR-117The Counts — Peaches Baby / My Only Love SR-118Enjoyables — Shame / I’ll Take You Back (1966) SR-119The Cavaliers — Do What I Want / Tighten Up I don't have a Manship price guide so what would the value of this lot be based on that guide? Mike Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 a few decent 45`s in this box 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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Phild Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Think I've lost track of the thread but are people saying that Mind In A Bind is a better record than I'm So Devoted? Can't be true surely... Absolutely it is. wash yer lugs out 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest sharmo 1 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Hi there is the sherells "Teasing me " a shrine recording ? it sounds like one with the "styrophone " sounding organ and drum rolls i'm not near my collection at the moment i'm sure it's written by E.Singleton but can't check it out 'till next week .Great cheapie as good as anything on the lable regards Simon. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon T Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I believe only Linda & Vistas was recorded in NY as mentioned previously. I think that a couple of the tracks .. Shirley Edwards & Les Chansonettes ... were pressed and then remixed at Bell Sound in NY then pressed again. This is why there are slight variations and different releases/matrix numbers for those 45s. The Bell Sound studios mixes are annotated as RE-1 in the run-out Andy When you interviewed Eddie Singleton he said he thought he might have recorded J D Bryant in NY. Also, aren't Audio Star acetates out of NY? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Andy Rix Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 HI, WERE THERE ANY OTHER SHRINE SINGLES RELEASED ON OTHER LABLES BEFORE THERE WAS A SHRINE LABLE OR AFTER IT FINISHED ???. JOE. This might go some way to answer .. Ramitary published songs which means they were composed during the life of Shrine Records as a corporation The Ramitary songs & associated releases JACKIE WILSON - SHE'S ALL RIGHT - BRUNSWICK 55273 wr. Eddie Singleton, dir. Ray Gordy, pr. Nat Tarnopol, BRC & Ramitary Music JACKIE WILSON - I BELIEVE I'LL LOVE ON - BRUNSWICK 55283 wr. Eddie Singleton, arr. Dale Warren, pr. Eddie Singleton-Nat Tarnopol, BRC & Ramitary Music JACKIE WILSON & LaVERN BAKER - THINK TWICE - BRUNSWICK 55287 wr. Eddie Singleton, arr. Dale Warren, pr. Eddie Singleton-Nat Tarnopol, BRC & Ramitary Music LADA EDMUND JR. - SOUL AU GO GO - DECCA 32007 wr. Eddie Singleton-Lada Edmund Jr, dir. Ray Singleton, pr.Eddie Singleton, Dala & Ramitary Music LADA EDMUND JR. - THE LARUE - DECCA 32007 wr. Eddie Singleton-Lada Edmund Jr, dir. Ray Singleton, pr.Eddie Singleton, Dala & Ramitary Music THE SHIRELLES - TEASIN' ME - SCEPTER 12178 wr. Eddie Singleton-L DeYoung, pr. Dynamic Duo Creations, arr. Ray Singleton, Flomar & Ramitary Music EPSILONS - MIND IN A BIND - HEM 1003 wr.Eddie Singleton, arr. & pr. Eddie Singleton, Jobete Music (BMI) EPSILONS -IT'S ALL RIGHT -HEM 1003 wr.Eddie Singleton, arr. & pr. Eddie Singleton, Ramitary Music 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Andy Rix Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) THE JET SET RELATED 45s NO. ARTIST TITLE WRITERS ARRANGER (arr.) PRODUCER (pr) PUBLISHER 768 JIMMY ARMSTRONG I Won't Believe 'Til I See It Eddie Singleton arr. Dale Warren pr. Eddie Singleton & Dimitri Villard Ramitary & Cloven Hoof Music 768 JIMMY ARMSTRONG I'm About To Say Goodbye Eddie Singleton arr. Ray Singleton pr. Eddie Singleton Ramitary & Cloven Hoof Music 1005 BARBARA LONG Take It From Me Eddie Singleton arr. & cond. Dale Warren pr. Caspar Davis & Dimitri Villard dir. Ray Gordy Ramitary & Cloven Hoof Music 1005 BARBARA LONG We Called It Love Eddie Singleton arr. & cond. Dale Warren pr. Caspar Davis &Dimitri Villard dir. Ray Gordy Pera Music 1007 STRINGS 'N THINGS Charge Dale Warren arr.& cond. Dale Warren pr. Caspar Davis & Dimitri Villard dir. Ray Gordy Cloven Hoof Music 1007 STRINGS 'N THINGS Fabulous New York Christopher Cerf Leon De Yong arr. & cond. Dale Warren pr. Caspar Davis& Dimitri Villard dir. Ray Gordy Cloven Hoof / Resistance Music 1009 JIMMY CASTOR Fabulous New York Christopher Cerf Leon De Yong arr. & cond. Dale Warren pr. Caspar Davis & Dimitri Villard dir. Ray Gordy Cloven Hoof / Resistance Music Edited December 14, 2012 by Andy Rix Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Andy Rix Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 The unreleased tracks TIPPIE & THE WISEMEN - LET ME WALK AWAY wr. Eddie Singleton-Harry Bass-Stanley Ossman, arr. Miss Ray, pr. Eddie Singleton-Harry Bass TIPPIE & THE WISEMEN - WAIT TIL I GET THERE wr. Harry Bass-Stanley Ossman, pr. Harry Bass-Eddie Singleton, arr. Miss Ray TIPPIE & THE WISEMEN - I WOULDN'T MIND CRYING wr.Eddie Singleton, pr. Eddie Singleton, arr. Dale Warren. TIPPIE & THE WISEMEN - BYE BYE wr. James Duvall-Harry Bass, pr. Eddie Singleton-Harry Bass, arr. Eddie Singleton. BOBBY REED - CALDONIA BROWN wr. unknown, pr Clay Roberts, arr. Freddy Perrin supervised by Eddie Singleton. BOBBY REED - BABY DON'T LEAVE ME wr. unknown, pr Clay Roberts, arr. Freddy Perrin supervised by Eddie Singleton. LITTLE BOBBY PARKER-I WON'T BELIEVE IT 'TIL I SEE IT wr. Eddie Singleton, arr. Dale Warren, pr. Eddie Singleton TRACI - TAKE IT FROM ME wr. Eddie Singleton, arr. & pr. Eddie Singleton CAUTIONS - FALL GUY wr. Felix Blanchard-Bruce Jones-Eddie Singleton, arr.& pr. Eddie Singleton CAUTIONS - TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR BABY wr. Harry Bass-Joseph Clyburn-Eddie Singleton, arr.& pr. Eddie Singleton , Ramitary & Renleigh Music (BMI) CAUTIONS - I WANT TO HOLD YOUR HAND wr. John Lennon-Paul McCartney,arr.& pr. Eddie Singleton , Northern Songs (BMI) JIMMY ARMSTRONG - I BELIEVE I'LL LOVE ON wr. Eddie Singleton, arr. Dale Warren, pr. Eddie Singleton JIMMY ARMSTRONG - IT'S GONNA TAKE LOVE wr. Eddie Singleton, arr. Dale Warren, pr. Eddie Singleton LEROY TAYLOR & FOUR KAYS - I AIN'T WORRIED ABOUT YOU wr. Eddie Singleton, arr. Dale Warren, pr. Eddie Singleton THE FOUR KAYS - FUNKY MONKEY wr., arr.,pr., unknown THE D.C. BLOSSOMS — THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE wr. Keni Lewis, arr & pr. Unknown Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Andy Rix Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 When you interviewed Eddie Singleton he said he thought he might have recorded J D Bryant in NY. Also, aren't Audio Star acetates out of NY? Yes Simon .. good catch .. recorded at Herb Abramson's A-1 Sound Studios .. I'd forgotten about that Gary Chester playing the drums Andy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) if anyone wants jackie wilson I`ll Believe I`ll live on give me a shout. I have a spare and cant recommend it enough.. 25 gbp Edited December 14, 2012 by Marc Forrest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 For those of us that have none, if you were allowed two, which one's would you have? I'd have two Ray Pollards. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 ive never owned a shrine 45..nearest i came was mulling over a ray pollard at £250 instead coming away with a lenny curtis and cody black on d-town for the same money Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon T Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Hi there is the sherells "Teasing me " a shrine recording ? it sounds like one with the "styrophone " sounding organ and drum rolls i'm not near my collection at the moment i'm sure it's written by E.Singleton but can't check it out 'till next week .Great cheapie as good as anything on the lable regards Simon. After Shrine, according to Eddie Singleton, at one point he was director of A&R at scepter / wand and did do recordings work with the Shirelles Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Swifty Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) Yes Simon .. good catch .. recorded at Herb Abramson's A-1 Sound Studios .. I'd forgotten about that Gary Chester playing the drums Andy Andy , remember Photo copying a couple of Shrine records that Rob (Thomas) brought to work about 20 Years ago , 'cause we had a colour copier. I seem to think they were sold to a bloke in Scouseland ? Rob wanted a couple of copies of each and I thought I'll do myself a couple of copies, as you do ! Well after I'd done 4 copies of the first one . when I picked the record off the copier I nearly shat myself 'cause it was so hot I thought the fooker had nearly melted, hey ho !, but I still did 4 copies of the other one Hope your'e well Andy maybe see you at some point , I'm sure you must owe me a beer !! Swifty Edited December 14, 2012 by SWIFTY Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 styrophone " sounding organ It is called an Ondioline, an early form of Synthesizer......from Wiki...could this be where Raynoma became familiar with it? Motown Records used an Ondioline as part of their studio setup between 1959 and 1962, where it was mainly used in place of expensive string arrangements. The instrument is featured prominently on dozens of early Motown recordings by acts such as the Supremes, the Miracles, the Temptations and the Marvelettes. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest sharmo 1 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 It is called an Ondioline, an early form of Synthesizer......from Wiki...could this be where Raynoma became familiar with it? Motown Records used an Ondioline as part of their studio setup between 1959 and 1962, where it was mainly used in place of expensive string arrangements. The instrument is featured prominently on dozens of early Motown recordings by acts such as the Supremes, the Miracles, the Temptations and the Marvelettes. It sounds like that thing Rolf Harris used to champion in the early seventies that you played with a sort of pen with no ink in it.Regards two little boy's Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 The instrument used on many Shrine recordings.... 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
tosspot Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) at the NQ all nighter in Manchester i think i'll put the cautions ( both copies), les chansonettes, jimmy armstrong & ray pollard on the decks in the freebase room , oh & maybe even bad apple Edited December 14, 2012 by tosspot Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 This might go some way to answer .. Ramitary published songs which means they were composed during the life of Shrine Records as a corporation The Ramitary songs & associated releases JACKIE WILSON - SHE'S ALL RIGHT - BRUNSWICK 55273 wr. Eddie Singleton, dir. Ray Gordy, pr. Nat Tarnopol, BRC & Ramitary Music JACKIE WILSON - I BELIEVE I'LL LOVE ON - BRUNSWICK 55283 wr. Eddie Singleton, arr. Dale Warren, pr. Eddie Singleton-Nat Tarnopol, BRC & Ramitary Music JACKIE WILSON & LaVERN BAKER - THINK TWICE - BRUNSWICK 55287 wr. Eddie Singleton, arr. Dale Warren, pr. Eddie Singleton-Nat Tarnopol, BRC & Ramitary Music LADA EDMUND JR. - SOUL AU GO GO - DECCA 32007 wr. Eddie Singleton-Lada Edmund Jr, dir. Ray Singleton, pr.Eddie Singleton, Dala & Ramitary Music LADA EDMUND JR. - THE LARUE - DECCA 32007 wr. Eddie Singleton-Lada Edmund Jr, dir. Ray Singleton, pr.Eddie Singleton, Dala & Ramitary Music THE SHIRELLES - TEASIN' ME - SCEPTER 12178 wr. Eddie Singleton-L DeYoung, pr. Dynamic Duo Creations, arr. Ray Singleton, Flomar & Ramitary Music EPSILONS - MIND IN A BIND - HEM 1003 wr.Eddie Singleton, arr. & pr. Eddie Singleton, Jobete Music (BMI) EPSILONS -IT'S ALL RIGHT -HEM 1003 wr.Eddie Singleton, arr. & pr. Eddie Singleton, Ramitary Music Wasn't Gene Chandler "I Hate To Be The One To Say" on Constellation a Ramitary pub, written by Keni Lewis or are we just quoting Eddies songs? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 My favorite part of "I'm so devoted" is when one of the singers' voice cracks during the falsetto. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 also, that pic of that early synth is pretty awesome, thanks for posting it. i remember hearing one 60s marvelettes record and noticing a weird synth in it. anyone ever make a list of motown 45s that used that? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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