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thanks simon

just found out the version,,,its paul delicato on london

thanks guyS

How about in French? "C'est La Meme Chanson" by Claude Francois was the 1965 cover version over there...

TONE :yes:

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from around 74/75...

know the one on UK aka jonathan king but anyone know of any others

regards

mark

Hi Mark

I have a British DEMO of this one;

UNITED ARTISTS - UP 2230 - VINCE EDWARDS - COUNTRY DURHAM DREAM / IT`S THE SAME OLD SONG

I believe that it was released, but I'm not sure how many copies were sold?

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Not wishing to appear pedantic (ahem) but that came out 3 years before the word reggae was invented and is a late ska version, sorry Cod :yes:

Quite right, too! You tell 'em, Pete...

Another late ska/early rocksteady Motown nick, also on Coxsone (and UK Island) was Delroy Wilson's "Got To Change Your Ways", which had new words set to the tune of the Temptations' "Beauty Is Only Skin Deep". The late Delroy was a huge Motown fan, some of the other Motown songs he did in rocksteady or reggae included "Once Upon A Time", "Ain't That Pecular", "Baby Don't You Do It" - lots of Marvin Gaye, as you can see, he also did an early Marvin obscurity "I'm Yours, You're Mine" - "It's A Shame", "This Old Heart Of Mine", "Put Yourself In My Place", and many others that I can't think of, off the top of my head.

His best Motown cover, and one of the greatest records in all of late 70s reggae, is the one he did of Tata Vega's monumental slice of deep soul "Come In Heaven (Earth Is Calling)", for Gussie Records in 1978. For those soul fans who appreciate reggae that's merely soul dressed up with a different beat, this is an absolute must...

All of which has nothing really to do with "It's The Same Old Song", but I thought I'd mention it anyway...

RANKIN' ROUNCE :yes:

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Quite right, too! You tell 'em, Pete...

Another late ska/early rocksteady Motown nick, also on Coxsone (and UK Island) was Delroy Wilson's "Got To Change Your Ways", which had new words set to the tune of the Temptations' "Beauty Is Only Skin Deep". The late Delroy was a huge Motown fan, some of the other Motown songs he did in rocksteady or reggae included "Once Upon A Time", "Ain't That Pecular", "Baby Don't You Do It" - lots of Marvin Gaye, as you can see, he also did an early Marvin obscurity "I'm Yours, You're Mine" - "It's A Shame", "This Old Heart Of Mine", "Put Yourself In My Place", and many others that I can't think of, off the top of my head.

His best Motown cover, and one of the greatest records in all of late 70s reggae, is the one he did of Tata Vega's monumental slice of deep soul "Come In Heaven (Earth Is Calling)", for Gussie Records in 1978. For those soul fans who appreciate reggae that's merely soul dressed up with a different beat, this is an absolute must...

All of which has nothing really to do with "It's The Same Old Song", but I thought I'd mention it anyway...

RANKIN' ROUNCE :yes:

Cheers Rankin :yes: "Get Ready" was another one...also the Uniques did a few crackin Motown covers including Build My World Around You and Ain't Too Proud To Beg...their Trojan album is phenomenal...well I guess every Motown song must have been covered by a Jamaican artist at one time. Got a great version of Stubborn Kinda Fellow by the Blues Busters which is worth hearing.

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Cheers Rankin :yes: "Get Ready" was another one...also the Uniques did a few crackin Motown covers including Build My World Around You and Ain't Too Proud To Beg...their Trojan album is phenomenal...well I guess every Motown song must have been covered by a Jamaican artist at one time. Got a great version of Stubborn Kinda Fellow by the Blues Busters which is worth hearing.

What's the "Stubborn Kind Of Fellow" version on, Pete? I love and collect the Blues Busters, have done for years, but I don't know their version at all. Unless I've just not noticed that I have it, an increasingly regular phenomenon these days...

TR a.k.a AL T. ZHEIMER :yes:

PS: I'm sure you know most of these already, but a few more fantastic Motown ska/rocksteady/early reggae covers include:

Wherever I Lay My Hat - Delano Stewart (High Note)

Is There A Place (In His Heart For Me) - Cynthia Richards (GG's)

That's The Way Love Is - The Techniques (Techniques)

Left With A Broken Heart - The Paragons (Techniques)

Born To Love You - The Sensations (Wind) or Slim Smith (Coxsone)

I Gotta Know Now - Derrick Harriott (Crystal) ("Sitting On Top")

Forever - The Clarendonians (Stud) ("Darling Forever")

Stay In My Lonely Arms - Bob Andy (Studio 1)

Until You Love Someone - The Clarendonians (Studio 1) ("You Can't Be Happy")

Don't Look Back - The Wailers (Coxsone)

Everybody Needs Love - Slim Smith (Unity)

..and that's just scratching the surface. For a short time, Coxsone Dodd even ripped off the old Motown "Sound Of Young America" sleeves, changing the slogan to "The Sound Of Young Jamaica" and putting packshots of Studio 1 albums in place of Motown ones. I've actually got quite a few Ja-pressed "Tamla Motown" singles - inclding several that were not issued here on TM - all straight issues of US 45s except for and interesting one that couples Marvin's "Let's Get It On" instrumental "Keep Gettin' It On" with another of the non US 45 tracks from that album (can't remember which one offhand and the single's buried in the attic....)

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What's the "Stubborn Kind Of Fellow" version on, Pete? I love and collect the Blues Busters, have done for years, but I don't know their version at all. Unless I've just not noticed that I have it, an increasingly regular phenomenon these days...

TR a.k.a AL T. ZHEIMER :yes:

It'sd a pretty late Blue beat release Tony (BB 313) on the b side of Busters Allstars "Gun the man down". Happy to send it up, though my copy is on a pretty ropey Jamaican blank so it has the extra bacon sizzling effect. Great version though.

Whats with the totally inappropriate 'space' noises on the start of delano Stewarts whever I lay my hat???

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A couple of years ago Lamont Dozier issued an album of his H-D-H songs and I'm sure it included Same Old Song. If I remember it is done at a much slower tempo.

Geoff,

album was called "Reflections of" and songs were recorded as love songs in the way he had intended, thus, a lot slower. It didn't include It's The Same Old Song, listing is:

I Hear A Symphony

Where Did Our Love Go

This Old Heart Of Mine

Heatwave

Stop! In The Name Of Love

My World Is Empty Without You

I Hear A Symphony

Baby I Need Your Lovin

Baby Love

I Can't Help Myself

How Sweet It Is

Reach Out, I'll Be There

Reflections

Interesting interpretations but difficult to appreciate the full album.

Here's a sample:

John.

Lamont_Dozier___This_Old_Heart_of_Mine.mp3

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I see Mr Rounce is having a slack morning again

Tone

Just trying to write a Phyllis Hyman sleevenote and looking for a temporary change of scenery, Tone...

(OTHER) Tone :)

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"Geoff,

album was called "Reflections of" and songs were recorded as love songs in the way he had intended, thus, a lot slower. It didn't include It's The Same Old Song, listing is:"

The CD is at home, my wife bought it. I'd have sworn Same Old Song was on it, I'm sure I've heard LD do a slower version, or maybe I'm dreaming. Now this is getting worrying.

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It'sd a pretty late Blue beat release Tony (BB 313) on the b side of Busters Allstars "Gun the man down". Happy to send it up, though my copy is on a pretty ropey Jamaican blank so it has the extra bacon sizzling effect. Great version though.

Whats with the totally inappropriate 'space' noises on the start of delano Stewarts whever I lay my hat???

Yes, Pete, I'd love to hear it, and I'm sure that the late Phillip James' daugher Crystal (with whom I've been corresponding recently) would, too - she had never head a lot of her dad's work until I did the Blues Busters CD for Trojan recently and I've been trying to get recordings of other BBs stuff for her.

Dunno about the space noises on "Wherever", maybe Delano was planning to lay his hat on the moon? It did actually get released around the time of "One small step for man...". Or maybe the studio had been invaded by aliens and this version is in fact by Quextor from the planet Tharg, and merely labelled as be Delano Stewart because he was hot at the time and Quextor was an unknown quality...

...I really must get some better medication, I think...

TONE :)

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Here you go Tony, sorry haven't had time to clean up the recording, you'll get the gist of it though...

Thanks, Pete. It's great, although I wish they'd taken the time to learn a few more of the words! Lovely sax solo from (almost ceratinly) Roland Alphonso there, too!

Cheers, it's gone straight on the wants list...

TONE :)

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Thanks, Pete. It's great, although I wish they'd taken the time to learn a few more of the words! Lovely sax solo from (almost ceratinly) Roland Alphonso there, too!

Cheers, it's gone straight on the wants list...

TONE :)

Yes I think definitely the Skatalites, if you listen to the little drum fill near the end, well cymbal fill actually, it gives it away. Think this came out on the Prince Buster or Wild Bells label in Jamaica.

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A couple of years ago Lamont Dozier issued an album of his H-D-H songs and I'm sure it included Same Old Song. If I remember it is done at a much slower tempo.

Some of the HDH songbook sung slowly can be superb. Barbara McNair's version of 'My World is Empty Without You' and Kim Weston's take on 'Stop in the Name of Love' are two good examples.

Kim_Weston___Stop_In_The_Name_Of_LoveRe1.mp3

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from around 74/75...

know the one on UK aka jonathan king but anyone know of any others

regards

mark

You mean the weathermen?,on b+c records.............. :)

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was the bobby vee an lp track?????

off the same lp as let nobody love you, however it did come out on a brainstorm 45 boot as the detroit shakers with an inst on the other side (someone once told me its very rare, however if it is rare all known copies must be in the derby area as me and all my mates had a copy one time or another

ps its crap

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Not wishing to appear pedantic (ahem) but that came out 3 years before the word reggae was invented and is a late ska version, sorry Cod ph34r.gif

:yes: sorry pete dont know me late ska from me reggae, plus i should have known this as i have it on an lp called CLUB SKA 67 :rolleyes:

ps will try harder next time

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