Ray Copley Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Hi Just sa quick clarification please from you experts : Velvet Satins - Nothing Can Compare To You - General American GA-006 - Bold Black Lettering one which is straight writing white demo ! Acording to Manship Guide ref: 521d - states Vinyl press promo , With Nashville Matrix Record as a stamped in Bell Stamped but also a stamped MR ( Monarch Recordings ) but no stamped or scratched " Nashville " Two questions : Was it also on Styrene What should the matrix read Many Thanks - Ray Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Would this have a monarch stamp or would that be a later press, early monarchs are more vinyl. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kev John Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Hi Just sa quick clarification please from you experts : Velvet Satins - Nothing Can Compare To You - General American GA-006 - Bold Black Lettering one which is straight writing white demo ! Acording to Manship Guide ref: 521d - states Vinyl press promo , With Nashville Matrix Record as a stamped in Bell Stamped but also a stamped MR ( Monarch Recordings ) but no stamped or scratched " Nashville " Two questions : Was it also on Styrene What should the matrix read Many Thanks - Ray Hi Ray what are the Delta numbers after MR Stamp ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ray Copley Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 (edited) Closed Edited December 10, 2012 by Ray Copley Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 That's an original West Coast copy manufactured by Monarch (styrene injected rather than pressed vinyl) , and mastered by Bell...hence their machine stamp aswell. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ray Copley Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 That's an original West Coast copy manufactured by Monarch (styrene injected rather than pressed vinyl) , and mastered by Bell...hence their machine stamp aswell. Cheers for that Flynny - Just the confirmation I wanted to hear - Many Thanks - Ray Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kev John Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 There's the normal triangle then 56769X before that there's the Bell Stamped then the MR then neatly scratched ZXSE-12304-RE-IF See Scan - That is an orig JM says it's the extremely scarce format :yes: Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post pikeys dog Posted December 10, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2012 What's the point in locking and deleting this topic? Could have been an ideal candidate for The Sharp End Of Vinyl, instead other members are being deprived of the information... 6 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Bo Diddley Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Anybody know what record this was referring to?? ALways interested in this type of stuff. Cheers. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Moore Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Anybody know what record this was referring to?? ALways interested in this type of stuff. Cheers. See Post 3 Mate. Regards, Dave 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Bo Diddley Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 See Post 3 Mate. Regards, Dave Thanks Dave, I'll ask Santa for some new specs. Cheers Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Merged with post regarding rare Vinyl variant Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I have the same 45 here so just to add some extra info to this thread - Bell Sound stamped, MR stamped, delta number is 56769 and scratched in matrix number reads ZXSE-1230V-RE-1F (on the Nothing Can Compare To You side) in small letters. A quick look on popsike would suggest this is the rarer format for the demo but I've seen quite a few of this straight text style label going through ebay in the last few years. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Can someone post the scan that was deleted please. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Label scan 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gerry H Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 https://www.popsike.com/The-Velvet-Satins-Nothing-Can-Compare-To-You-Rare/160623002739.html is this a boot or as they say 2nd isue Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 (edited) https://www.popsike.c...0623002739.html is this a boot or as they say 2nd isue 2nd issue ,,even the white demo boots fetch £30 according to popsike ...amazing Edited December 29, 2012 by dave pinch 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Detroitsound Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Re Post 7 Here - That is an orig JM says it's the extremely scarce format out of the handful of variations of release of the Velvet Satins I always thought the Vinyl Demo with both Nashville matrix and Bell sound stamps present in run out was by far the rarest ? best regards Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 (edited) Doesn't that ZXSE 12300 series code indicate that it's a Columbia pressing? Edited December 30, 2012 by RobbK Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Doesn't that ZXSE 12300 series code indicate that it's a Columbia pressing? Never seen a Columbia prefix using that code, although I agree it looks like one of theirs! I've had the varinat that was being questioned and it was Monarch stamped...with details as per post #13 and #5. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Whilst we're at it, the 'swirl' design label WD and red stock copies also have the scratched in ZXSE number, Bell Sound stamp and the raised 'X' denoting it was pressed at Shelley. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Whilst we're at it, the 'swirl' design label WD and red stock copies also have the scratched in ZXSE number, Bell Sound stamp and the raised 'X' denoting it was pressed at Shelley. Yes, I have that one. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) Bit about the label in Billboard: https://books.google....llboard&f=false ...more Billboard searching (on behalf of Roburt ) reveals that 'Nothing Can Compare To You' (well the flipside actually!) was within the 'Spotlight Winners Of the Week' for Feb 6th and May 8th 1965. Incidentally, and off on a tangent...also released that week in February '65 were: Sharon Soul on Wild Deuce, Vi Velasco on VeeJay, Jr. Walker - Shotgun, MAxine Brown - It's Gonna Be Alright, J.J.Barnes - Poor Unfortunate Me and the Chi-Lites - I'm So Jealous. The others within the 'Spotlight Winners...' included: Beach Girls - Skiing In The Snow, Stokes - Whipped Cream, Freddie Gorman - Take Me Back, Sandy Wynns - A Touch Of Venus, Billy Stewart - I Do Love You, Nolan Chance - Shes Gone and Sugarpie DiSanto - Never Love A Stranger. Edited December 31, 2012 by Flynny Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tezza Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Is the Swirl Design East Coast and the 'straight' written one West Coast or Vise Versa ?!?! I have the Swirl design but the plain one looks stronger ( if you get my drift ) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 The Swirl design was East Coast. Shelley was located in New York. The "straight design" shown above was pressed on styrene at L.A.'s Monarch pressing plant, but also on vinyl in some other plants around USA (I seem to remember seeing many in The Midwest on vinyl). Maybe they were pressed by RCA or one of the other majors? They weren't pressed at Columbia Midwest (Chicago/Terre Haute). I would remember if they were a ZTSC pressing. I followed that plant very closely, as almost all their pressings were Detroit and Chicago labels. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tezza Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 The Swirl design was East Coast. Shelley was located in New York. The "straight design" shown above was pressed on styrene at L.A.'s Monarch pressing plant, but also on vinyl in some other plants around USA (I seem to remember seeing many in The Midwest on vinyl). Maybe they were pressed by RCA or one of the other majors? They weren't pressed at Columbia Midwest (Chicago/Terre Haute). I would remember if they were a ZTSC pressing. I followed that plant very closely, as almost all their pressings were Detroit and Chicago labels. Cheers mate,. Answered my question and then some !! Have a great New Year XXX Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest DELORENZO Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 (edited) So far so good, I have the East coast Swirl promo & issue (as described above), and the West coast styrene straight lettered promo...... 1) But is the Vinyl press promo (with the Nashville matrix) with straight lettering, exactly the same label as the Styrene press promo (with the bell sound and monarch stamp) with straight lettering ?? 2) Is there a West coast issue ??? 3) And then what is this ?? https://www.popsike.c...0905309327.html Edited February 17, 2013 by DELORENZO Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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