Velvet Satins

[Ray Copley]

Hi

Just sa quick clarification please from you experts :

Velvet Satins - Nothing Can Compare To You - General American GA-006 - Bold Black Lettering one which is straight writing white demo !

Acording to Manship Guide ref: 521d - states Vinyl press promo , With Nashville Matrix

Record as a stamped in Bell Stamped but also a stamped MR ( Monarch Recordings ) but no stamped or scratched " Nashville "

Two questions :

Was it also on Styrene

What should the matrix read

Many Thanks - Ray

[Prophonics 2029]

Would this have a monarch stamp or would that be a later press, early monarchs are more vinyl.

[Kev John]

Hi

Just sa quick clarification please from you experts :

Velvet Satins - Nothing Can Compare To You - General American GA-006 - Bold Black Lettering one which is straight writing white demo !

Acording to Manship Guide ref: 521d - states Vinyl press promo , With Nashville Matrix

Record as a stamped in Bell Stamped but also a stamped MR ( Monarch Recordings ) but no stamped or scratched " Nashville "

Two questions :

Was it also on Styrene

What should the matrix read

Many Thanks - Ray

Hi Ray what are the Delta numbers after MR Stamp ?

[Ray Copley]

Closed

Edited December 10, 2012 by Ray Copley

[Guest]

That's an original West Coast copy manufactured by Monarch (styrene injected rather than pressed vinyl) , and mastered by Bell...hence their machine stamp aswell.

[Ray Copley]

That's an original West Coast copy manufactured by Monarch (styrene injected rather than pressed vinyl) , and mastered by Bell...hence their machine stamp aswell.

Cheers for that Flynny - Just the confirmation I wanted to hear - Many Thanks - Ray

[Kev John]

There's the normal triangle then 56769X

before that there's the Bell Stamped then the MR then neatly scratched ZXSE-12304-RE-IF

See Scan -

That is an orig JM says it's the extremely scarce format :yes:

[pikeys dog]

What's the point in locking and deleting this topic?

Could have been an ideal candidate for The Sharp End Of Vinyl, instead other members are being deprived of the information...

[Bo Diddley]

Anybody know what record this was referring to??

ALways interested in this type of stuff.

Cheers.

[Dave Moore]

Anybody know what record this was referring to??

ALways interested in this type of stuff.

Cheers.

See Post 3 Mate.

Regards,

Dave

[Bo Diddley]

See Post 3 Mate.

Regards,

Dave

Thanks Dave,

I'll ask Santa for some new specs.

Cheers

[pikeys dog]

Merged with post regarding rare Vinyl variant

[Tiberius]

I have the same 45 here so just to add some extra info to this thread - Bell Sound stamped, MR stamped, delta number is 56769 and scratched in matrix number reads ZXSE-1230V-RE-1F (on the Nothing Can Compare To You side) in small letters.

A quick look on popsike would suggest this is the rarer format for the demo but I've seen quite a few of this straight text style label going through ebay in the last few years.

[Chalky]

Can someone post the scan that was deleted please.

[Tiberius]

Label scan

[Gerry H]

https://www.popsike.com/The-Velvet-Satins-Nothing-Can-Compare-To-You-Rare/160623002739.html is this a boot or as they say 2nd isue

[Dave Pinch]

https://www.popsike.c...0623002739.html is this a boot or as they say 2nd isue

2nd issue ,,even the white demo boots fetch £30 according to popsike ...amazing

Edited December 29, 2012 by dave pinch

[Detroitsound]

Re Post 7 Here - That is an orig JM says it's the extremely scarce format

out of the handful of variations of release of the Velvet Satins I always thought the Vinyl Demo with both Nashville matrix and Bell sound stamps present in run out was by far the rarest ?

best regards

[Robbk]

_{Doesn't that ZXSE 12300 series code indicate that it's a Columbia pressing?}

Edited December 30, 2012 by RobbK

[Guest]

_{Doesn't that ZXSE 12300 series code indicate that it's a Columbia pressing?}

Never seen a Columbia prefix using that code, although I agree it looks like one of theirs!

I've had the varinat that was being questioned and it was Monarch stamped...with details as per post #13 and #5.

[Guest]

Whilst we're at it, the 'swirl' design label WD and red stock copies also have the scratched in ZXSE number, Bell Sound stamp and the raised 'X' denoting it was pressed at Shelley.

[Robbk]

Whilst we're at it, the 'swirl' design label WD and red stock copies also have the scratched in ZXSE number, Bell Sound stamp and the raised 'X' denoting it was pressed at Shelley.

Yes, I have that one.

[Guest]

Bit about the label in Billboard:

https://books.google....llboard&f=false

...more Billboard searching (on behalf of Roburt ) reveals that 'Nothing Can Compare To You' (well the flipside actually!) was within the 'Spotlight Winners Of the Week' for Feb 6th and May 8th 1965.

Incidentally, and off on a tangent...also released that week in February '65 were: Sharon Soul on Wild Deuce, Vi Velasco on VeeJay, Jr. Walker - Shotgun, MAxine Brown - It's Gonna Be Alright, J.J.Barnes - Poor Unfortunate Me and the Chi-Lites - I'm So Jealous.

The others within the 'Spotlight Winners...' included: Beach Girls - Skiing In The Snow, Stokes - Whipped Cream, Freddie Gorman - Take Me Back, Sandy Wynns - A Touch Of Venus, Billy Stewart - I Do Love You, Nolan Chance - Shes Gone and Sugarpie DiSanto - Never Love A Stranger.

Edited December 31, 2012 by Flynny

[Tezza]

Is the Swirl Design East Coast and the 'straight' written one West Coast or Vise Versa ?!?!

I have the Swirl design but the plain one looks stronger ( if you get my drift )

[Robbk]

The Swirl design was East Coast. Shelley was located in New York. The "straight design" shown above was pressed on styrene at L.A.'s Monarch pressing plant, but also on vinyl in some other plants around USA (I seem to remember seeing many in The Midwest on vinyl). Maybe they were pressed by RCA or one of the other majors? They weren't pressed at Columbia Midwest (Chicago/Terre Haute). I would remember if they were a ZTSC pressing. I followed that plant very closely, as almost all their pressings were Detroit and Chicago labels.

[Tezza]

The Swirl design was East Coast. Shelley was located in New York. The "straight design" shown above was pressed on styrene at L.A.'s Monarch pressing plant, but also on vinyl in some other plants around USA (I seem to remember seeing many in The Midwest on vinyl). Maybe they were pressed by RCA or one of the other majors? They weren't pressed at Columbia Midwest (Chicago/Terre Haute). I would remember if they were a ZTSC pressing. I followed that plant very closely, as almost all their pressings were Detroit and Chicago labels.

Cheers mate,. Answered my question and then some !!

Have a great New Year XXX

[Guest DELORENZO]

So far so good, I have the East coast Swirl promo & issue (as described above), and the West coast styrene straight lettered promo......

1) But is the Vinyl press promo (with the Nashville matrix) with straight lettering, exactly the same label as the Styrene press promo (with the bell sound and monarch stamp) with straight lettering ??

2) Is there a West coast issue ???

3) And then what is this ??

https://www.popsike.c...0905309327.html

Edited February 17, 2013 by DELORENZO