Del-Val Records

[Guest Mr messyhead]

Can any help with a discography for the Philidelphia label DEL-VAL. Also was the Joe Adams version of "Thats not half bad" ever released on vinyl ? Cost(ish) ?

Thanks for any info you can give .

[boba]

Here's what I could come up with:

Del-Val 1002 Casinos - Everybody can't be pretty / If I told you

Del-Val 1003 Gene Woodbury - It's Only You / I'll Be Glad

Del-Val 1004 Dynamic Three - You said yeah / I tried

Del-Val 1005 Gene Woodbury - That's not half bad / Everyone can't be

Del-Val 1011 Bernie Williams - Baby I want to thank you / I'm going home

Del-Val 1012 Fabulous Soul Eruption - Very Special Friend / Funky Strut

Del-Val 1013 James Lawson - I've been kissed before / The mender of broken hearts

related label? also philly:

Del-Valiant 100 - Nat Turner Rebellion - Tribute to a slave / Plastic people

Del-Valiant 103 - Mary Holmes - I'll make it up to you / I need your lovin'

[Guest sharmo 1]

Joe adams great artist with a great voice i have a brilliant frankford/wayne acetate called L.O.V.E which dave Raistric found when he met one of the people behind the operation may be a good idea if you asked dave regards Simon.

[Chalky]

Joe adams great artist with a great voice i have a brilliant frankford/wayne acetate called L.O.V.E which dave Raistric found when he met one of the people behind the operation may be a good idea if you asked dave regards Simon.

Butch has been playing a F/W acetate by Joe Adams as well (I think it is Joe Adams) called Stop. Absolutely brilliant to these ears. First heard it at one of the Thorne summer specials and it blew me away first time.

There's an excellent CD by Philly Archives called the Best of Del Val Records. According to this Pentagon with 7 releases is related (Vince Apollo etc).

According to the CD 1005 came out twice, as Bob says and then Ever Again/Thats Not Half BAd (version two).

Amongst others The Magnetics on Ra-Sel is a Joe Stevenson production and recording as well.

[Chalky]

Here's the discography bit from the CD booklet.....I've scanned it rather than type cause it's Sunday and I'm too lazy

[Guest sharmo 1]

Here's the discography bit from the CD booklet.....I've scanned it rather than type cause it's Sunday and I'm too lazy

Hi chalky how you doing chap well Dave had all of the acetates Carl fortnum had the Dynamic Syblims which i'm sure he still spins and i turned down the Karla D. which was £50.00 at the time he had a few others as well regards Simon.

[boba]

there are more records on ra-sel, if that's related -- e.g. two 45s by the metros and one by the uptites

[Dave Moore]

The full story of Joe Stevenson's Imperial Sound Studios which included his Del-Val recordings is all in the new book - Philadelphia - The City Of Brotherly Soul. (Coming soon). He made some fantastic records.

Regards,

Dave

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[Chalky]

Hi chalky how you doing chap well Dave had all of the acetates Carl fortnum had the Dynamic Syblims which i'm sure he still spins and i turned down the Karla D. which was £50.00 at the time he had a few others as well regards Simon.

I'm doing good pal. Carl still has the Dynamic Siblings doesn't he? Some good tracks on the label for sure.

[Chalky]

there are more records on ra-sel, if that's related -- e.g. two 45s by the metros and one by the uptites

I don't know if the other Ra-Sel are related Bob, just the Magnetics according to the booklet were Joe produced and recorded. He probably had no involvement in the other releases.

[Guest sharmo 1]

I don't know if the other Ra-Sel are related Bob, just the Magnetics according to the booklet were Joe produced and recorded. He probably had no involvement in the other releases.

Hi there i think the Metros on RaSel were written by Jimmy Smith who probly did the arrangements as i remember seeing his name on a few Philli thing's as an arranger and i'd have thought that (Jimmy ?) Seldon produced it so can't see any Joe Stevenson connection with that one>However i was told once that Yoland Carr was Karla D didn't she have a release on Rasel ? i'll have to check in the week when i get home sure it was called it takes two hearts or something regards Simon.

[Chalky]

Hi there i think the Metros on RaSel were written by Jimmy Smith who probly did the arrangements as i remember seeing his name on a few Philli thing's as an arranger and i'd have thought that (Jimmy ?) Seldon produced it so can't see any Joe Stevenson connection with that one>However i was told once that Yoland Carr was Karla D didn't she have a release on Rasel ? i'll have to check in the week when i get home sure it was called it takes two hearts or something regards Simon.

It Takes Two Hearts/Leave It To me - Ra-Sel 7103

One of the Metros was definitely Jimmy Smith....

Magnetics scan from evilbay....

[Guest Mr messyhead]

great info folks - really appreciate that ! If theres any more please keep it comin ! Quite keen to find out more about Joe Adams !

cheers

[Chalky]

Here's the CD booklet bit concerning Joe Adams.....

[boba]

I don't know if the other Ra-Sel are related Bob, just the Magnetics according to the booklet were Joe produced and recorded. He probably had no involvement in the other releases.

It's the same ra-sel label. Don't know about the producers, just making a comment on other releases on the label.

[Chalky]

It's the same ra-sel label. Don't know about the producers, just making a comment on other releases on the label.

I know it's the same label Bob, what I meant was related to Joe Stevenson/Del-Val like the Magnetics is production/arranging wise.

[Guest Mr messyhead]

thanks again folks !!

I'm sure I know you from somewhere Chalky ?

[Chalky]

thanks again folks !!

I'm sure I know you from somewhere Chalky ?

Probably....I've been about a bit including over the border

[Guest Mr messyhead]

Probably....I've been about a bit including over the border

Same but other way about if you know what I mean !

[KevH]

Here's what I could come up with:

Del-Val 1002 Casinos - Everybody can't be pretty / If I told you

Del-Val 1003 Gene Woodbury - It's Only You / I'll Be Glad

Del-Val 1004 Dynamic Three - You said yeah / I tried

Del-Val 1005 Gene Woodbury - That's not half bad / Everyone can't be

Del-Val 1011 Bernie Williams - Baby I want to thank you / I'm going home

Del-Val 1012 Fabulous Soul Eruption - Very Special Friend / Funky Strut

Del-Val 1013 James Lawson - I've been kissed before / The mender of broken hearts

related label? also philly:

Del-Valiant 100 - Nat Turner Rebellion - Tribute to a slave / Plastic people

Del-Valiant 103 - Mary Holmes - I'll make it up to you / I need your lovin'

The james lawson,1013,is credited to Lawson James on the label.I guess just a misspell.?

[Amsterdam Russ]

The james lawson,1013,is credited to Lawson James on the label.I guess just a misspell.?

And some copies have a red sticker on both sides with the name Joe Adams covering up the name James Lawson.

[Md Records]

A few bits of info off the top of my head -

- Karla Denning did an unreleased funkier version of "I Bear Witness"

- Ra Sel was owned by "Ray Seldon" and used Joe's "Imperial Sound Studios" for at least some of the productions, Joe Stevenson owned Del Val and jointly owned Pentagon records

- Vince Apollo is the "M. Brown" on the credits of the Pentagon 45 , this is either Melvin or Marvin - I can't remember which

- Joe used to get 500 cut of each title, if it sold he'd get some more cut.

- Joe claimed that someone had told him that Kenny Gamble had heard "the Dynamic Three" on the radio, and was making sure it got no further airplay - hence the poor sales and obscurity of that 45.

- Gene Woodbury was Eugene Woodbury and Joe thinks that he had been living in the U.K. for the last 20 years

Sorry if I've repeated anything, and I'm sure there'll be a lot more fuller info in Dave's much awaited book!!

Des Parker

Edited December 9, 2012 by SOUL.INC

[Md Records]

Joe Stevensons biggest success was with "Interpretations - Snap Out - Bell" , unfortunately the Amy Mala Bell set up went through financial problems/takeover issues after that and "Bernie Williams - Ever Again" didn't fare so well!! Could some kindly soul with more technical ability than me post up the yout tube clip of the interpretations performing on the "Hy Lit" show - fantastic!!!!!!

Des Parker

Edited December 9, 2012 by SOUL.INC

[Chalky]

[boba]

FABULOUS DIALS, THE (Philadelphia, PA)

As The Fabulous Dials: Ray Eskridge, later of Slip & Dell; Michael Franklin;

Eddie Smith; James Tindal, formerly of the R&B groups The Teen Kings on

Bee and The Delrays on Cord. Franklin, Smith and Tindal were formerly of the

R&B group The Dials on Hilltop and Norgolde, while Eskridge was only on

Norgolde.

As The Dynamic Three: Michael Franklin, George Rose, James Tindal. Rose

was formerly of The Dials on Hilltop.

As The Brothers Two: James Tindal and Eddie Smith.

D ‘N’ B 1000 Forget Me Not / Bossa Nova Stomp (63)

Joy 276 Forget Me Not / Bossa Nova Stomp (63)

(below as The Dynamic Three)

Del-Val 1004 You Said Yeah / I Tried (65)

(below as The Brother’s Two)

Crimson

1011 Boogaloo (Soul) Party / You Got It (inst.)(67)

1017 Here I Am In Love Again (fg) / I’m Tired Of You Baby (67)

Jonah 99 My Sweetness / Hoping

Capitol 3533 Hey Girl / Do You Feel It (73) (as The Brothers II)

[Guest]

#1011 Bernie Williams

 

Been after one of these for a while...finally snagged one!

Sublime mid-tempo...steady drumming, sophisticated guitar work, sympathetic brass stabs and killer harmonies!

1:52 to 2:25 is...is...is simply gorgeous and just right to shuffle around to!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Y0_GQl3I7M

[Premium Stuff]

Are Del-Val demos rare? Especially thinking of the earlier series releases with the blue and silver issues (e.g. Casinos).

Cheers

Richard

Edited December 8, 2013 by Premium Stuff

[Triode]

A few bits of info off the top of my head -

- Karla Denning did an unreleased funkier version of "I Bear Witness"

- Ra Sel was owned by "Ray Seldon" and used Joe's "Imperial Sound Studios" for at least some of the productions, Joe Stevenson owned Del Val and jointly owned Pentagon records

- Vince Apollo is the "M. Brown" on the credits of the Pentagon 45 , this is either Melvin or Marvin - I can't remember which

- Joe used to get 500 cut of each title, if it sold he'd get some more cut.

- Joe claimed that someone had told him that Kenny Gamble had heard "the Dynamic Three" on the radio, and was making sure it got no further airplay - hence the poor sales and obscurity of that 45.

- Gene Woodbury was Eugene Woodbury and Joe thinks that he had been living in the U.K. for the last 20 years

Sorry if I've repeated anything, and I'm sure there'll be a lot more fuller info in Dave's much awaited book!!

Des Parker

Gene Woodbury of course was a movie actor notably Kojak movie and a Martin Luther King bio pic but appears off the radar now

[Derek Pearson]

The james lawson 1013 is credited to Lawson James on the label. I guess just a misspell.?

 

And some copies have a red sticker on both sides with the name Joe Adams covering up the name James Lawson.

 

Derek

 

 

[Blackpoolsoul]

On 09/12/2012 at 09:16, Dave Moore said:

The full story of Joe Stevenson's Imperial Sound Studios which included his Del-Val recordings is all in the new book - Philadelphia - The City Of Brotherly Soul. (Coming soon). He made some fantastic records.

 

Regards,

 

Dave

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Does your book say who Bernie Williams was (no relation to the Blue Notes?) there's nothing after digging around