Guest soultempo Posted April 17, 2006 Posted April 17, 2006 JAMES BROWN does Northern / Crossover / Modern Soul ??? Oh yes he does ... and top notch, at times !!! A lot of healthy debate always revolves around what is, in fact, JBs best ever soul record? I will start the debate by putting forward one of my current spins ... JAMES BROWN - HELL LP (Polydor PD2 - 9001) track is LOST SOMEONE (Thank you "Maida Vale" Sean for the tip) A very instant & catchy eye opening Modern Soul dancer which is definitely bubbling down South !!! BUT is it his best ??? Answers on a postcard, please ... kind regards, Shaun.
simonb Posted April 17, 2006 Posted April 17, 2006 3 of my fav's : What my baby needs Prisoner of Love Wake up'
sepia Posted April 17, 2006 Posted April 17, 2006 i have to agree with lost someone.got lots of spins up here in aberdeen/scotland 4/5years ago. 2nd would be you took my heart(get up off that funky thing lp) 3rd wake up
Girthdevon Posted April 17, 2006 Posted April 17, 2006 JAMES BROWN does Northern / Crossover / Modern Soul ??? Oh yes he does ... and top notch, at times !!! A lot of healthy debate always revolves around what is, in fact, JBs best ever soul record? I will start the debate by putting forward one of my current spins ... JAMES BROWN - HELL LP (Polydor PD2 - 9001) track is LOST SOMEONE (Thank you "Maida Vale" Sean for the tip) A very instant & catchy eye opening Modern Soul dancer which is definitely bubbling down South !!! BUT is it his best ??? Answers on a postcard, please ... kind regards, Shaun. I always thought that Lost Someone would sound great played out - and recently found out it does One of my faves is 'Someone To Talk To' - but for the dancefloor 'People Wake Up And Live' takes some beating Cheers Girf
Sutty Posted April 17, 2006 Posted April 17, 2006 'you took my heart' 'so long' and errmm... 'it's a mans world'? cheers Sutty
Blake H Posted April 17, 2006 Posted April 17, 2006 Try this one guys "(I love you) For Sentimental Reasons" Polydor 14304 also on the Hot album, its a great dancer and worth it just to hear JB cough on the record....priceless Blake H
sepia Posted April 17, 2006 Posted April 17, 2006 forgot the duet he did with lynn collins what my baby needs now / polydor 45 its nae to bad
Soul-Brother Posted April 17, 2006 Posted April 17, 2006 In all the years I have done the Radio Shows.. I have only played 2 James Brown tracks(never into his funky stuff and the obvious popular tracks don't need me respinning them. HOWEVER the two I did play are 'SOUL' and superb People Wake Up & Live(Polydor 1977) Love the intro where he say..'Disgusted with you, you and especially you'..real classy track & How Do You Stop(Scotti Bros 1986) superb 'ballad' it was described...mid-tempo soul classic is better A pity he didn't do more soulful material..instead of all those funky riffs which personnally leave me cold. Regards Barry
Sutty Posted April 17, 2006 Posted April 17, 2006 Try this one guys "(I love you) For Sentimental Reasons" Polydor 14304 also on the Hot album, its a great dancer and worth it just to hear JB cough on the record....priceless Blake H agreed, in it's south coast anfum form ' i lo-o-o-ve yo-o-u... for semi-mental reeaasons...'
Soul-slider Posted April 18, 2006 Posted April 18, 2006 JAMES BROWN does Northern / Crossover / Modern Soul ??? Oh yes he does ... and top notch, at times !!! BUT is it his best ??? Answers on a postcard, please ... /quote] For a 100% Northern Soul stomper, check out the track 'Why Did You Take Your Love From Me' ... from his 'I Can't Stand Myself When You Touch Me' album! Great!!!
Garethx Posted April 18, 2006 Posted April 18, 2006 Lost Someone is a magical record, but really JB did absolutely tons of 'real soul', probably more than anyone who ever drew breath. Big favourites are "Sometimes A Man Has To Go To The Crossroads" or "King Heroin".
Guest Gavin Page Posted April 18, 2006 Posted April 18, 2006 Lost Someone is a magical record, but really JB did absolutely tons of 'real soul', probably more than anyone who ever drew breath. Big favourites are "Sometimes A Man Has To Go To The Crossroads" or "King Heroin". Gareth King Heroin, just one stunning piece of music !!
okehgaz Posted April 18, 2006 Posted April 18, 2006 Bit obvious but i love his version of "there was a time". IMO superior to Gene Chandler's!
Geoff Posted April 18, 2006 Posted April 18, 2006 James Brown did loads of good soul records, but his reputation seemed to go down with many people (including myself) when he went funky. Just found that repetitious and boring, seemed to go on forever. Therefore have missed some of the tracks mentioned. I love Lost Someone, but surely it is a bit slow and deep to be played out in a club. Great live version on the Live at the Apollo album from about 63 or 64. When I was at the night they used to hold at the Smersh bar on a Wednesday, can't remember what it was called, I remember someone playing JB singing For Your Precious Love accompanied by a trio featuring a pianist. It's hard to pick favourites because it depends on your mood to a certain extent. How about: Night Train It's A Man's Man's Man's World Prisoner Of Love These Foolish Things Money Won't Change You Try Me I'll Go Crazy Think Bewildered Actually the list could go on forever I suppose, and no doubt funk fans could name a whole different selection. Quite funny this post has come up, as a non-soulie friend, who actually likes the early JB, asked me over the weekend if he was the "king of soul" as he'd seen him described recently. I explained he was often called the godfather of soul, for some reason, but it depended on the listener's taste in soul.
Garethx Posted April 18, 2006 Posted April 18, 2006 Hi Geoff: The version of Lost Someone people are referring to is a seventies remake on the Hell double album, where it's taken at a jaunty mid pace. I could be wrong, but I usually credit Ivor Jones as being the first person I heard play this in a soul club (doubtless someone played it as a new release, though). The Wednesday night at Smersh was George Jackson, where we had an almost unwritten rule of playing JB soul records. As I stated above, there are loads of them, and there would simply be no soul music as we know it without the great man.
Sweeney Posted April 18, 2006 Posted April 18, 2006 (edited) When I was at the night they used to hold at the Smersh bar on a Wednesday, can't remember what it was called, I remember someone playing JB singing For Your Precious Love accompanied by a trio featuring a pianist. Hi Geoff - the night was called George Jackson! and the version of For Your Precious Love we played is from an LP called "Bring It On" released in 1983 on Churchill/Augusta Records. Worth getting if you see it cheaply (I don't think it would cost more than about a tenner). Edited April 18, 2006 by sweeney
Jordirip Posted April 18, 2006 Posted April 18, 2006 JAMES BROWN does Northern / Crossover / Modern Soul ??? Oh yes he does ... and top notch, at times !!! A lot of healthy debate always revolves around what is, in fact, JBs best ever soul record? I will start the debate by putting forward one of my current spins ... JAMES BROWN - HELL LP (Polydor PD2 - 9001) track is LOST SOMEONE (Thank you "Maida Vale" Sean for the tip) A very instant & catchy eye opening Modern Soul dancer which is definitely bubbling down South !!! BUT is it his best ??? Answers on a postcard, please ... kind regards, Shaun. I played this on Sunday at the Orwell funnily enough. Sounded beautiful. Jordi
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted April 18, 2006 Posted April 18, 2006 Try this one guys "(I love you) For Sentimental Reasons" Polydor 14304 also on the Hot album, its a great dancer and worth it just to hear JB cough on the record....priceless Blake H From the same album, "So Long" is also fantastic. Props to Dean Johnson for first putting me onto it in the old Expansion shop, near Manchester Victoria station, what seems like decades ago - and, come to think of it, actually WAS decades ago now. But, for me, JB's best record of the whole of the 70s - including all those fantastic funk tunes - was the astounding 1979 deep soul ballad "Regrets", which should be in every southern soul fan's desert island discs in my estimation! (By the way, JB coughs on this one, too!) Can't remember which album it's on, but it was also on 45 in the UK at least.... TONE
Guest Stuart T Posted April 18, 2006 Posted April 18, 2006 My personal favourite is The Man In The Glass from the Soul On Top LP. Can't say I'm the greatest JB fan (probably just a ridiculous reaction to his massive popularity) but every so often there is a track like that which grabs my attention.
Geoff Posted April 18, 2006 Posted April 18, 2006 Thanks for reminding me the night at the Smersh Bar was called George Jackson, always some interesting stuff played. I like sessions where the dance floor doesn't have to rule. I'll look out for that LP Bring It On, again thanks for the information. I saw him when he first toured in the 60s, at Walthamstow Granada, absolutely brilliant, so good went back for the second performance, Lesley had to pay as I didn't have enough money, got in the second row from the front, I think the seats cost 30 shillings or something similar. His performance was magnificent, never seen anything quite like it, so well rehearsed. At the time I attended day release at the LCP at Elephant & Castle, and all the others in my class slagged off his appearance on Ready Steady Go (which was very similar to his live show) as too rehearsed, lacking spontaneity, etc. But then they raved over the Action doing I'll Keep Holding On, so what did they know about soul music? I saw him again in the 70s, at Hammersmith I think, but we walked out, just too funky for my taste.
Guest Posted April 18, 2006 Posted April 18, 2006 (edited) "Money Won't Change You" or "Tell Me What You're Gonna' Do" Edited April 18, 2006 by B-side-B
Winsford Soul Posted April 18, 2006 Posted April 18, 2006 JAMES BROWN does Northern / Crossover / Modern Soul ??? Oh yes he does ... and top notch, at times !!! A lot of healthy debate always revolves around what is, in fact, JBs best ever soul record? I will start the debate by putting forward one of my current spins ... JAMES BROWN - HELL LP (Polydor PD2 - 9001) track is LOST SOMEONE (Thank you "Maida Vale" Sean for the tip) A very instant & catchy eye opening Modern Soul dancer which is definitely bubbling down South !!! BUT is it his best ??? Answers on a postcard, please ... kind regards, Shaun. Didnt know JB had made a good record Steve
Guest Posted April 18, 2006 Posted April 18, 2006 I love his really early stuff... probable favourites are: Try Me It's A Man's, Man's, Man's World Please Please Please
Kev Connellan Posted April 18, 2006 Posted April 18, 2006 Out of the blue....Smash....brilliant my fave JB choon at the mo' here's what is as far as I know an alt take of it, more 'doo woppy' backing. sold my smash demo of it recently, think this is better James_Brown___Out_Of_The_Blue.mp3 also love JBs 'good rockin' too
Guest Posted April 18, 2006 Posted April 18, 2006 Gareth King Heroin, just one stunning piece of music !! I'll second that
Guest Netspeaky Posted April 19, 2006 Posted April 19, 2006 Don't forget all those wonderful JB productions on other artists, most be 1000's of them, and not funk either.
Eddie Hubbard Posted April 19, 2006 Posted April 19, 2006 I love " I cried " on King , brilliant Deep Soul ." hey America " is great as well .Best ,Eddie
Soul-Brother Posted April 19, 2006 Posted April 19, 2006 In all the years I have done the Radio Shows.. I have only played 2 James Brown tracks(never into his funky stuff and the obvious popular tracks don't need me respinning them. HOWEVER the two I did play are 'SOUL' and superb People Wake Up & Live(Polydor 1977) Love the intro where he say..'Disgusted with you, you and especially you'..real classy track & How Do You Stop(Scotti Bros 1986) superb 'ballad' it was described...mid-tempo soul classic is better A pity he didn't do more soulful material..instead of all those funky riffs which personnally leave me cold. Regards Barry
Soul-Brother Posted April 19, 2006 Posted April 19, 2006 In all the years I have done the Radio Shows.. I have only played 2 James Brown tracks(never into his funky stuff and the obvious popular tracks don't need me respinning them. HOWEVER the two I did play are 'SOUL' and superb People Wake Up & Live(Polydor 1977) Love the intro where he say..'Disgusted with you, you and especially you'..real classy track & How Do You Stop(Scotti Bros 1986) superb 'ballad' it was described...mid-tempo soul classic is better A pity he didn't do more soulful material..instead of all those funky riffs which personnally leave me cold. Regards Barry
Guest vinylvixen Posted April 19, 2006 Posted April 19, 2006 (edited) Thanks for reminding me the night at the Smersh Bar was called George Jackson, always some interesting stuff played. I like sessions where the dance floor doesn't have to rule. I'll look out for that LP Bring It On, again thanks for the information. I saw him when he first toured in the 60s, at Walthamstow Granada, absolutely brilliant, so good went back for the second performance, Lesley had to pay as I didn't have enough money, got in the second row from the front, I think the seats cost 30 shillings or something similar. His performance was magnificent, never seen anything quite like it, so well rehearsed. At the time I attended day release at the LCP at Elephant & Castle, and all the others in my class slagged off his appearance on Ready Steady Go (which was very similar to his live show) as too rehearsed, lacking spontaneity, etc. But then they raved over the Action doing I'll Keep Holding On, so what did they know about soul music? I saw him again in the 70s, at Hammersmith I think, but we walked out, just too funky for my taste. Geoff...London College of Printing...you must tell me more when we meet up What an awesome review of the Walthamstow Granada gig. James had the best turned ankle in showbusiness and I wish I could've seen him in his cape, dropping to the floor, working the house......keep those stories coming, Geoff - they're wonderful. My favs? Tell me what you gonna do - King (West Hampstead Special) Our Day Will Come - Smash......not the world's greatest organist but this has sentimental reasons These Foolish Things....again, sentimental reasons Jo Edited April 19, 2006 by vinylvixen
Guest vinylvixen Posted April 19, 2006 Posted April 19, 2006 "Money Won't Change You" or "Tell Me What You're Gonna' Do" I second that commotion Jo
Soul-Brother Posted April 19, 2006 Posted April 19, 2006 In all the years I have done the Radio Shows.. I have only played 2 James Brown tracks(never into his funky stuff and the obvious popular tracks don't need me respinning them. HOWEVER the two I did play are 'SOUL' and superb People Wake Up & Live(Polydor 1977) Love the intro where he say..'Disgusted with you, you and especially you'..real classy track & How Do You Stop(Scotti Bros 1986) superb 'ballad' it was described...mid-tempo soul classic is better A pity he didn't do more soulful material..instead of all those funky riffs which personnally leave me cold. Regards BarryJames_Brown___People_Wake_Up_And_Live.mp3
Soul Shrews Posted April 19, 2006 Posted April 19, 2006 (edited) Good call Barry! Also love his version of "Summertme'' from "Muthas nature" LP. Was good to meet you at the Betty Lavette gig in A'dam. Cheer's for the dvd..... awesome!!! Personally love JB, funk 'n' all, "take it to the bridge(Sydney )" P.S. Check out "Your love was good to me" from "Get on the good foot"LP crossover fan's. Co written by JJ Barnes!! Cheer's Paul 'n' Mandy Edited April 20, 2006 by soul shrews
Guest sydney bridge Posted April 19, 2006 Posted April 19, 2006 Dont like his funky stuff Barry,dont like this ,dont like that,we love him round our way.Sort yer life out!
Makemvinyl Posted April 19, 2006 Posted April 19, 2006 Bit obvious but i love his version of "there was a time". IMO superior to Gene Chandler's! Original version from the "Live at the Apollo Vol2" album the riff and the ongoing side of the lp makes for excellent listening IMO used to play this out way back in the day and it filled the floor old basrarrd am I
Soul Shrews Posted April 19, 2006 Posted April 19, 2006 (edited) Original version from the "Live at the Apollo Vol2" album the riff and the ongoing side of the lp makes for excellent listening IMO used to play this out way back in the day and it filled the floor old basrarrd am I basrarrd? Wot's that then? You old git Edited April 19, 2006 by soul shrews
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