John & Wiedest

[shute]

Bought this many many years ago, late 70s

was it booted then or not ?

this one has a slight flaut at beginning that does not affect play only a slight click

there is a a circled stamped/scratch with some sort of lettering in

May sell this ????????????

[Headsy]

not sure when booted exactly, vinyl colour is good way to tell, originals are proper black,boots are a browny colour.

[Mandy]

Bought this many many years ago, late 70s

was it booted then or not ?

this one has a slight flaut at beginning that does not affect play only a slight click

there is a a circled stamped/scratch with some sort of lettering in

May sell this ????????????

I shall pay you in bon bons Mr Shute Sir

[shute]

If I hold it up to let electric light about a foot away you can see the bulb

otherwise its black !!!!!!!!!!

I shall pay you in bon bons Mr Shute Sir

You always pay in BON BONS Mandy dear

[Pete S]

Thats a boot mate but your memory is going because this wasn't booted until about 1992. If you can see the light bulb through it, it's a boot. If you put the needle on the record, you'll hear surface noise from the copy they booted it on start up a split second before the track starts.

[Headsy]

Pete Smith or somebody like that will tell you better,

its a hard record mind so if its proper good on ya, sure somebody said the typset was different on the boots as well, it looks a little too '' good '' if you know what I mean

[Guest rachel]

Moved into 'Look At Your Box' forum - Rachel.

[Sean Hampsey]

Bought this many many years ago, late 70s

was it booted then or not ?

this one has a slight flaut at beginning that does not affect play only a slight click

there is a a circled stamped/scratch with some sort of lettering in

May sell this ????????????

This was Booted in 1992 at the same time as Bobby Sheen "Something New To Do" and done by the same people!

Only 2-3 dealers had them. Very few people bought them and they were both scorned upon at the time as the scene had become very much a 'collectors' scene by that time.

Very sad to see that bootlegging is as bad, these days, as it's ever been. A sure sign that the masses have returned.

[Chalky]

This was Booted in 1992 at the same time as Bobby Sheen "Something New To Do" and done by the same people!

Only 2-3 dealers had them. Very few people bought them and they were both scorned upon at the time as the scene had become very much a 'collectors' scene by that time.

Very sad to see that bootlegging is as bad, these days, as it's ever been. A sure sign that the masses have returned.

I thought they sold pretty well Sean

[Sean Hampsey]

I thought they sold pretty well Sean

It's a relative thing I guess. I imagine only a couple of 100 went out cos' I remember how we all looked at them with some disdain. I knew of a couple of people who sent them back at the time and a lot of other people who wouldn't touch them with a Barge Pole.

Go back 30 years when a 'Top Sound Bootleg' would sell 5-6,000 copies - that's what I'm comparing it too!... But you're right, along with the Bobby Sheen, the Bootlegger will have still made a pretty penny!

[Dave Rimmer]

It's a relative thing I guess. I imagine only a couple of 100 went out cos' I remember how we all looked at them with some disdain. I knew of a couple of people who sent them back at the time and a lot of other people who wouldn't touch them with a Barge Pole.

Go back 30 years when a 'Top Sound Bootleg' would sell 5-6,000 copies - that's what I'm comparing it too!... But you're right, along with the Bobby Sheen, the Bootlegger will have still made a pretty penny!

From memory (and it wasn't me that did them) there were 500 of each done, and they ALL sold.

The difference in the typeface on the John & The Wierdest is a slight difference in the letter T of the label name.

The Bobby Sheen boots were identical, but the way to tell the boots is that the labels were a little shiny compared to the originals. Mind you, in the last 14 years that shine may well have worn off, so I wouldn't like to try and tell them apart nowadays.

[Sean Hampsey]

From memory (and it wasn't me that did them) there were 500 of each done, and they ALL sold.

The difference in the typeface on the John & The Wierdest is a slight difference in the letter T of the label name.

The Bobby Sheen boots were identical, but the way to tell the boots is that the labels were a little shiny compared to the originals. Mind you, in the last 14 years that shine may well have worn off, so I wouldn't like to try and tell them apart nowadays.

My point exactly Dave, pretty small fry compared to the heady days of the 70's when such Monster Tunes as Johnny Caswell sold over 5,000 copies and Gloria Jones, Tainted Love, both on 'US CHAMPION' sold nearer 10,000.

As I recall, the actual way to tell the Bobby Sheen WB Boots from the real ones is that the A & B sides are reversed! i.e wrong A side/ B side.

Sean Hampsey

[Ted Massey]

The AS in the circle is stamped in the original as ray Agee and the Sweets the boots have that scratched in.mind you they fooled a world famous dealer collector when they were first done

[Mandy]

This was Booted in 1992 at the same time as Bobby Sheen "Something New To Do" and done by the same people!

Only 2-3 dealers had them. Very few people bought them and they were both scorned upon at the time as the scene had become very much a 'collectors' scene by that time.

Very sad to see that bootlegging is as bad, these days, as it's ever been. A sure sign that the masses have returned.

Shute's had this 45 for a very long time and has been "assured" it's a proper one for a long time now ... must be gutted if it is a boot ... hope it's not Kev