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ame='IANCSLOFT' date='27 March 2006 - 06:48 PM' timestamp='1143478113' post='269671']

Was big Clemmy a Liverpool fan? I think it's the same bloke who lived up in Gateshead for a while in the early 70's. There was a few of them from Kirby I think, hard to remember the names but one them was an Everton fan called Frannie. Some of them came up around 71 and Big Clemmy followed them up a bit later 72 maybe. I was just a kid at the time it was the suedehead sort of period and remember Big Clemmy particulary because of an incident at a Newcastle v Liverpool match. He came along with a few of the Gateshead lads to the match and when we were leaving across the car park outside someone got wind that he was a Liverpool fan and before you knew it there were about a 100 blokes baying for his blood we were trying to say that he was a good guy but a blood frenzy took over. Big Clemmy then did one of the calmest things I've ever seen- he had a crombie on and I think he was wary that he was going to be rolled for it - he walked into a dry cleaners calmy took the coat off and handed it over to the little old lady took his ticket and then walked out again. Luckily at this point a couple of decent Newcastle hard lads came along and told the mob to leave him alone and escorted him away. Strange how you remember these things and I doubt very much that he would remember me and my brother who was there also but top marks to him for coolness under pressure. Apologies if it's not the same bloke but I think it must be as they were all Soul fans.

Cheers

Manus

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Yip your spot on there mate Big John Clements ( Clemmy ) was a Liverpool fan and along with myself Peety, Don Rowley and several other Soulies / skinheads from Leigh where friendley with a few of the Kirkby crew Franny Lawler, Alan Hardman ect , Don Rowley and his brother Frank where Man Utd fans we use to travel all over watching Leigh Rugby and Liverpool FC in the early 70,s i remember Peety Alan Hardman , Franny Lawler livin down in Gates for a short time and gettin into a few scrapes down there Still see Clemmy now n again see Don all the time Peety lives down in Essex and as just done a sponsered walk from Essex to Leigh Lancs and only last month Alan Hardman got in touch with me on face book after all these years and i met up with him again what memories we had really mad ones i can tell you it would make a great film

Regards Ian Cunliffe

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Yip your spot on there mate Big John Clements ( Clemmy ) was a Liverpool fan and along with myself Peety, Don Rowley and several other Soulies / skinheads from Leigh where friendley with a few of the Kirkby crew Franny Lawler, Alan Hardman ect , Don Rowley and his brother Frank where Man Utd fans we use to travel all over watching Leigh Rugby and Liverpool FC in the early 70,s i remember Peety Alan Hardman , Franny Lawler livin down in Gates for a short time and gettin into a few scrapes down there Still see Clemmy now n again see Don all the time Peety lives down in Essex and as just done a sponsered walk from Essex to Leigh Lancs and only last month Alan Hardman got in touch with me on face book after all these years and i met up with him again what memories we had really mad ones i can tell you it would make a great film

Regards Ian Cunliffe

Yes I think it was pretty wild back in those days and those lads from Kirby/Leigh fitted in well with the Gateshead boys as they were as daft as we were. The Geordies and the Scousers mainly got on pretty well anyway - I remember the 74 cup final when we got hammered 3-0 - there was a bit of trouble early in the morning but rest of the day/night the pubs were full of Geordies and Scousers drinking and singing together.

Cheers

Manus

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