Soulsmith Posted March 7, 2006 Posted March 7, 2006 The thing about playlists is, you can see where the crap played out oldies are being played And who by
Guest Andy BB Posted March 7, 2006 Posted March 7, 2006 Is it just the preserve of the upfront supporters or can oldies fans be chin-strokers? Actually it would probably need to be pluralised wouldn't it?
Guest Baz Posted March 7, 2006 Posted March 7, 2006 Well i vote we break up into three teams, oldies, newies and the middle of the road team (would class my self in that) and beat the living sh*t out of each other
Guest in town Mikey Posted March 7, 2006 Posted March 7, 2006 (edited) Well i vote we break up into three teams, oldies, newies and the middle of the road team (would class my self in that) and beat the living sh*t out of each other in Gladiators style: Oldies fans come into the arena to Alice Clark - You Hit me Newies fans Come out to anything it doesnt matter it will be covered up and as rare as it is dull Middle of the road come out to chirpy chirpy cheep cheep Contest will be refereed by Jimmy Hill and David Badiel (chinny reck-on) Edited March 7, 2006 by in town Mikey
sister dawn Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 in Gladiators style: Oldies fans come into the arena to Alice Clark - You Hit me Newies fans Come out to anything it doesnt matter it will be covered up and as rare as it is dull Middle of the road come out to chirpy chirpy cheep cheep Contest will be refereed by Jimmy Hill and David Badiel (chinny reck-on) Being of the female gender and being able to multi-task can i be in two groups then?.... do we also have to wear the dodgy lycra costumes, like they did on the telly?, plus can we have names like they did too? Gladiators are you ready?? Challengers are you ready??
Guest in town Mikey Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 I cant wait to hear what your fighting name is Dawn.
Guest Baz Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 I cant wait to hear what your fighting name is Dawn. Dawn the Destructor
sister dawn Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Dawn the Destroyer Oh come on.... something a tad more exotic please
Guest johnm Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Playlists are a handy reference for after an event when you`ve heard a tune asked what it was and then forgotten what they told you except a vague memory. I agree after an event it's good to know what that tune was that you hadn't heard before. Being 'new' to the music there are lots I don't recognise so for me they are handy.......
Simsy Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Oh come on.... something a tad more exotic please DANGER DAWN In the habit of hurting ...
Simsy Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Reading through this thread it seems most are interested in seeing a playlist. If you are unwilling to post a playlist, you've something to hide. Crap records/taste for instance.
Winnie :-) Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 From both 'sides'... =================== Have to be careful what I say, as I don't want to be accused of being argumentative Oh bollox to it Thing is it's not generally from both sides, usually it's the views come from the 'upfront brigade', who are determined to educate. Most oldies fans can't be bothered to take part in these debates, cos they get shot down by the same people all the time. And most of the posts start with "I still like oldies but....." and then go on to extol the virtues of newies/upfront. If it is about opinions, which in my view it is, then both sides are allowed to voice one. The only reason they degenerate into battles, IMO, is the upfront crowd are so certain of themselves. I've seen things like playlists tell me it's a played out oldies venue, I still feel this is disrespectful, and mocks the vast majority of people who are currently on the scene. Stuart's right I did smile at the comment made by fenman, although hardly a cosy giggle/laugh (can't remember exactly) but he also knows I was a regular at the Dome which was considered very upfront. The 100 club the same. Can't comment properly on lifeline, because I haven't been to enough of them, but have enjoyed the ones I've been too. What I don't like is the elitist attitude that constantly comes across, and once again this is why these posts degenerate into newies/oldies battles of a sort. Perhaps it's time for the newies/upfront brigade to stop alienating potential customers with their santimonious condescending views and talk in softer tones. Yeah your upfront, yeah you like rarities, yeah some of them are good, now get over yourselves, and stop dividing the scene!! Winnie:-) PS. Hope Rach's original point was accurate and we are allowed to give veiws from, "From both sides"
Guest Baz Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Reading through this thread it seems most are interested in seeing a playlist. If you are unwilling to post a playlist, you've something to hide. Crap records/taste for instance. Wouldnt say crap records? The only thing is you can post a playlist of all the most overplayed oldies, ok i would think nope not for me i wont be going to that do.......but on the night the floor was proberly rammed, you can say the same for a playlist with lesser knowns in there, looks good in writing but did it do the trick on the night? Over all i would say there a good thing POST YOUR PLAYLISTSOR BE CAST TO ETERNAL DAMNATION
Guest ShaneH Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 can we stick to the original question please. Shane ps. not just you winnie.
Guest Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 (edited) Reading through this thread it seems most are interested in seeing a playlist. If you are unwilling to post a playlist, you've something to hide. Crap records/taste for instance. Hows that work Mr Sims?,i`ve posted a couple of lists.............i`ve got crap records/and even worser taste Edited March 8, 2006 by ken
Simsy Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Hows that work Mr Sims?,i`ve posted a couple of lists.............i`ve got crap records/and even worser tast Regardless of your taste or records, you had no hesitation in posting a playlist which proves confidence in your set.
Guest Andy BB Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 It's like the Bigendians v the Littleendians! None of you could survive without the other group and it's all subjective, even if you could find an objective empirical point to debate it would never work. So stop sulking you sulking sulkers. Trust the taste of the upfronters, they do a valuable job. They wade through a lot of crap and dismiss it before it gets to the middlegroundgroup, the middlegroundgroup then find copies and play it a lot and then it filters down to the oldies brigade - they in turn fork out big bucks for the records that the upfronters found and are now ready to sell on cos they've been played too much, this cash injection allows the upfronters to filter through a load more records before the process starts all over again. Quite possibly. (There is of course another group who contribute nothing to this economic theory but the less said about them the better ) Anyway SHOW US THE PLAYLIST!
Winnie :-) Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 can we stick to the original question please. Shane ps. not just you winnie. ============ Soz Shane, was responding to other points made earlier. On the original point..... is it playlists or the DJs names that influence us. Playlists after the event only tells you what was played on that particular night. Where knowing the rep of a DJ, through constant good performances might be a better yardstick? Winnie:-)
Guest ShaneH Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 can we forget newies/oldies and stick to the importance of play-lists please. its ok going off-topic a little to emphasise your point but some recent posts have zero reference to the original question. cheers Shane
Guest in town Mikey Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Reading back throught the posts. Until somebody said it was an oldies v newies squabble, there doesnt seem to be any divide at all to me. Just a few people making a point or two for or against. I still dont think that by default all newies fans want lists posted and oldies fans dont. Mike the confused.
Guest Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Regardless of your taste or records, you had no hesitation in posting a playlist which proves confidence in your set. Wrong i just dont give a .......................
Simsy Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Reading back throught the posts. You didn't per chance see a playlist from Quinvy whilst you were there did you? Think he's still yet to post. Also think (apart from a couple of don't care'ers) he's the only person who doesn't want to see playlists posted after a do.
Guest Andy BB Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Punter approaches club door.. Punter: Hello, what kind of music you playing? Promoter: You wouldn't know it. Punter: I might... Promoter: No, it's rare. Punter: Oh right yeah, like what? Promoter: Underground stuff Punter: Yeah I gathered. Can you give me some examples Promoter: No Punter: Why not Promoter: Don't want to Punter: Oh come on, how am I supposed to know if I want to come in Promoter: Well, do you like rare stuff? Punter: Like what? Promoter: You wouldn't know it Punter: I might... TAXI!
Simsy Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Punter approaches club door.. Punter: Hello, what kind of music you playing? Promoter: You wouldn't know it. Punter: I might... Promoter: No, it's rare. Punter: Oh right yeah, like what? Promoter: Underground stuff Punter: Yeah I gathered. Can you give me some examples Promoter: No Punter: Why not Promoter: Don't want to Punter: Oh come on, how am I supposed to know if I want to come in Promoter: Well, do you like rare stuff? Punter: Like what? Promoter: You wouldn't know it Punter: I might... TAXI!
pikeys dog Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 spat coffee all over my screen. Best reason fro playlists posted yet
Guest ShaneH Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Punter approaches club door.. Punter: Hello, what kind of music you playing? Promoter: You wouldn't know it. Punter: I might... Promoter: No, it's rare. Punter: Oh right yeah, like what? Promoter: Underground stuff Punter: Yeah I gathered. Can you give me some examples Promoter: No Punter: Why not Promoter: Don't want to Punter: Oh come on, how am I supposed to know if I want to come in Promoter: Well, do you like rare stuff? Punter: Like what? Promoter: You wouldn't know it Punter: I might... TAXI! good way of putting it andy with me being a whipper-snapper on the scene, can anyone tell me if play-lists were common practice 'back in the day'? were they published in fanzines etc? cheers Shane
Rbman Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Punter approaches club door.. Punter: Hello, what kind of music you playing? Promoter: You wouldn't know it. Punter: I might... Promoter: No, it's rare. Punter: Oh right yeah, like what? Promoter: Underground stuff Punter: Yeah I gathered. Can you give me some examples Promoter: No Punter: Why not Promoter: Don't want to Punter: Oh come on, how am I supposed to know if I want to come in Promoter: Well, do you like rare stuff? Punter: Like what? Promoter: You wouldn't know it Punter: I might... TAXI! Haha...love it andy..... not too busy at work then?
Guest Rowly Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Oh don't encourage him you lot. He's got a big enough head already!
Supercorsa Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Back on topic, I don't mind if people want to post up their playlists. It just gives me the opportunity of reading them and think to myself "don't know it, don't know it, shit, excellent, don't know it, etc.," You get the idea.
SteveM Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 good way of putting it andy with me being a whipper-snapper on the scene, can anyone tell me if play-lists were common practice 'back in the day'? were they published in fanzines etc? cheers Shane Black Echoes used to print playlists Shane.
Guest Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Oh don't encourage him you lot. He's got a big enough head already! Not as big as mine..........
Little-stevie Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Not as big as mine.......... Playlists alone mean nowt..Whats the beer/women/dancefloor/sound like..etc etc etc..Takes more than a playlist to make my night...
Chalky Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 good way of putting it andy with me being a whipper-snapper on the scene, can anyone tell me if play-lists were common practice 'back in the day'? were they published in fanzines etc? cheers Shane Keb Darge Floorfillers, Echoes mid 80's.
Guest Baz Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Keb Darge Floorfillers, Echoes mid 80's. Fansinators - You keep walking by C/up is that the Boss Four?
Chalky Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Fansinators - You keep walking by C/up is that the Boss Four?
Paul McKay Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Keb Darge Floorfillers, Echoes mid 80's. Care to identify the cover-ups for us mere mortals Chalks?
pikeys dog Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Care to identify the cover-ups for us mere mortals Chalks? I think Betty Lavette is Joan Baker on Diamond
Chalky Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 I think Betty Lavette is Joan Baker on Diamond It is. Tempos - Debonaires on Soul Click Honey & Bees - Tina Roberts on Security Sammy Campbell - Out A Sights on Saru (Rest Of My Life) Don Ray - Monorays on 20th Century Fabulous Impacts - Moments on Hog. At that time only the un-credited studio acetate existed, no issues known of.
Guest ShaneH Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 (edited) cheers chalky Shane ps. end of the cover-up theme now i hope Edited March 8, 2006 by ShaneH
Guest Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 I love that Charmaines record - not heard it in years!
Chalky Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 (edited) I love that Charmaines record - not heard it in years! Roger Banks has it now, or he did. He plays it occasionally. Its on site....just search for Charmaines. Edited March 8, 2006 by chalky
Paul McKay Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 It is. Tempos - Debonaires on Soul Click Honey & Bees - Tina Roberts on Security Sammy Campbell - Out A Sights on Saru (Rest Of My Life) Don Ray - Monorays on 20th Century Fabulous Impacts - Moments on Hog. At that time only the un-credited studio acetate existed, no issues known of. Cheers mate see you at P.
Chalky Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Cheers mate see you at P. Sure will anyone got anymore cover ups for Shane
Guest Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Sure will anyone got anymore cover ups for Shane Quinvy?............
Guest Stuart T Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Quinvy?............ Erm, sorry Shane. Back on topic, I think playlists are dead good.
vaultofsouler Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 They're nice to read through.... to try and get a flavour of the night.... but, as said previously, they can't relate to the night itself with floor action, busyness, general feeling, etc., no matter what type of upfront/outback/inside/outside/oldies/newies/new but old/old but new format is played .... Anyway.... have personally tried to gather playlists with a view to putting them up here later.... think I've managed it 2-3 times over the last couple of years .... seem to lose them/leave them somewhere when on the way home .... think the last time I managed it was when Jo Wallace appeared back in January.... As a bit of an aside (I think ) although in line with playlists, it gripes me when the lesser known or underplayed type tune that gets playlisted by a "unknown" often gets overlooked/scan read (unless of course your in the "know of it" clan).... but when it's playlisted or picked up on by a "known" sometime later, it then gains interest to be heard/searched out and so becomes tomorrows "played out" tune.... mmmm, BUT who then gets the limelight .... not the "unknown", they just then get noticed for playing it and deemed to have bought the latest "en vogue" tune to play out .... seen this happen a fair bit.... maybe a seperate topic for a future thread....
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