Kevin Cox Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 as an off shoot to the commands topic what coloured (colored over here ) do you have in your collections heres a few ive had or seen: commands - Red - Dynamic Proffesionals - Gold - Groove City Artistics - Purple - Okeh Ted Taylor - Purple - Okeh Bobby Taylor - Red - VIP Gene Toones - Blue - Simco Bobby patterson - Jeststar - Orange few other motown releases on red wax must be more?? Kevin
Mark B Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 as an off shoot to the commands topic what coloured (colored over here ) do you have in your collections heres a few ive had or seen: commands - Red - Dynamic Proffesionals - Gold - Groove City Artistics - Purple - Okeh Ted Taylor - Purple - Okeh Bobby Taylor - Red - VIP Gene Toones - Blue - Simco Bobby patterson - Jeststar - Orange few other motown releases on red wax must be more? Kevin it has not attived yet but expecting it soon. swiss movement i wish our love would last Gold Gold label and vinyl. mark
Guest Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 I have the Informers (Black Jack) on red vinyl..forget the title
Bazm Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 as an off shoot to the commands topic what coloured (colored over here ) do you have in your collections heres a few ive had or seen: commands - Red - Dynamic Proffesionals - Gold - Groove City Artistics - Purple - Okeh Ted Taylor - Purple - Okeh Bobby Taylor - Red - VIP Gene Toones - Blue - Simco Bobby patterson - Jeststar - Orange few other motown releases on red wax must be more?? Kevin The Icemen It's Time You Know Samar .....Blue THE ORWELL - FRIDAY 24th FEBRUARY Wigan Pier, Wigan Soul Sam, Flanny, Steve Connor, Barry Maleady, Steve Plumb With Special Guest DJ GLYN THORNHILL 8.30 pm - 2.30 am (with a 2 am bar!) 70's Modern & Crossover Soul with a smattering of quality Northern
Chalky Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 I've a scan of the Meridians on Parnaso somewhere, green vinyl. Gloria Taylor on Silver Fox, blue.
Guest just mo Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 (edited) as an off shoot to the commands topic what coloured (colored over here ) do you have in your collections heres a few ive had or seen: commands - Red - Dynamic Proffesionals - Gold - Groove City Artistics - Purple - Okeh Ted Taylor - Purple - Okeh Bobby Taylor - Red - VIP Gene Toones - Blue - Simco Bobby patterson - Jeststar - Orange few other motown releases on red wax must be more?? Kevin Commands 'don't be afraid to love me' dynamic. some demos are on yellow vinyl Edited February 20, 2006 by just mo
Guest Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 (edited) The thing is i just don't get coloured vinyl, it seems to be the prerequisite of the vinyl rock collectors, always preferred the heavy "black" vinyl look anyway.....but hell, i'm an aristocrat.... Edited February 20, 2006 by Brett
Guest Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 The thing is i just don't get coloured vinyl, it seems to be the prerequisite of the vinyl rock collectors, always preferred the heavy "black" vinyl look anway.....but hell, i'm an aristocrat.... I do so agree Brett, just something not quite right with the coloured stuff, much prefer my vinyl black
Guest Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 I did av some stuff Ian Lavine put out on clear vinyl dont know wot there are or where they are now HB
pikeys dog Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 The Originals - Goodnight Irene - Soul - Red Vinyl.
MarkWhiteley Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 as an off shoot to the commands topic what coloured (colored over here ) do you have in your collections heres a few ive had or seen: Willie Mitchell - That Driving Beat EP - Yellow vinyl This is for Sale by the way if anyone interested Mark
Guest Jamie Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 What about that 4 coloured boot jobby that was on Manships a bit ago, was it Eddie Foster??? Also that nasty swirly stuff they used in the Lebanon. Sure there was some ABC stuff pressed under licence - looked like someone vommed on it while it was spinning around - yikes! I did av some stuff Ian Lavine put out on clear vinyl dont know wot there are or where they are now HB It'll have been 'Soft Cell' on flexidisc Jamie
Headsy Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 recently sold a Five Keys on Landmark ''stop what youre doing to me'' which was a lovely multi coloured vinyl.
Guest Rowly Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 Only coloured soul 45 I've got is is a dj copy of Edwin Starr - 25 Miles (Gordy) on red vinyl. Got a copy of Motown Chartbusters Vol. 7 LP on Yellow vinyl... And Kent - For Dancers Only / for Dancers Also on Red & Yellow.... (like everyone else has! )
Simon T Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 -->QUOTE(mark.b @ Feb 20 2006, 08:06 PM) link it has not attived yet but expecting it soon. swiss movement i wish our love would last Gold Gold label and vinyl. mark I think this gold so called 'vinyl' is the reason why lots of copies skip and hence destroyed. Also, it came out on two different label designs.
Simon T Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 Didn't Ral Donner's 'Mr Miser' or 'Don't let it slip away' come out on bile green vinyl? Talk about adding insult to injury!
Simon T Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 I've a scan of the Meridians on Parnaso somewhere, green vinyl. That's a legit 4 track EP re-release, with it on
Guest vinylvixen Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 The thing is i just don't get coloured vinyl, it seems to be the prerequisite of the vinyl rock collectors, always preferred the heavy "black" vinyl look anyway.....but hell, i'm an aristocrat.... and the face of the new Government 'Just Say No' campaign.... .... black vinyl rocks......
Guest Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 What about that 4 coloured boot jobby that was on Manships a bit ago, was it Eddie Foster??? Jamie Saw this a while back as well. How many were done? How much did that one sell for? Still a only boot after all isn't it.... Also, I thought I'd heard a story about a pressing plant worker. He was making color versions for himself of all the titles coming through. They were supposedly discovered when he died. Anyone know what titles he did color versions of? -Mike
Simon T Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 They were supposedly discovered when he died. When he Dyed? Black?
Guest Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 They were supposedly discovered when he died. When he Dyed? Black? I have a green vinyl of "Why Girl" - The Precisions on Drew, never seen another copy, are copies known?
asboannie Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 as an off shoot to the commands topic what coloured (colored over here ) do you have in your collections heres a few ive had or seen: Artistics - Purple - Okeh Kevin Got the ARTISTICS...GET ME HANDS ON SOME LOVIN'...OKEH Purple Demo.
Gene-r Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 recently sold a Five Keys on Landmark ''stop what youre doing to me'' which was a lovely multi coloured vinyl. Thanks Jeff! It sure is - red vinyl with a blue stripe; really bizzare, but looks great in my collection!! Gene
davidwapples Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 i have a yello vinyl 6 track willie mitchel ep featuring driving beat and the champion on hi records , anyone know if this is rare as the people i have asked only usually know the black iuuse
Gene-r Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 (edited) i have a yello vinyl 6 track willie mitchel ep featuring driving beat and the champion on hi records , anyone know if this is rare as the people i have asked only usually know the black iuuse Hi David, I know it was booted on yellow vinyl without the pic sleeve, but wouldn't know if it was originally issued this way. Gene Didn't Ral Donner's 'Mr Miser' or 'Don't let it slip away' come out on bile green vinyl? Talk about adding insult to injury! "Don't Let It Slip Away" came out on orange vinyl. Was a 1978 release. Blank label test pressings of Mr Misery were pressed on green vinyl. Edited February 23, 2006 by Gene-R
Gene-r Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 (edited) Here's a list of other original US Soul releases on coloured vinyl I know of (apologies for any repetition): THE TONETTES: I Gotta Know (Dynamic DEMO on red vinyl) THE POSSESSIONS: You & Your Lies (Britton DEMO on blue vinyl) THE ELECTRODES: Go Away (Fran DEMO - on blue vinyl, and also blue vinyl with black spatters) FABULOUS TEMPOS: I Don't Care (Sur-tinga on yellow vinyl) BOBBY TAYLOR: Oh I've Been Blessed (VIP DEMO on red vinyl) PORGY & THE MONARCHS: Somebody Said I'd Cry Someday (Mala DEMO on solid light blue vinyl) TED TAYLOR: Somebody's Always Trying (Okeh DEMO on purple vinyl) ARTISTICS: This Heart Of Mine (Okeh DEMO on purple vinyl) RAL DONNER: Mister Misery (White label test press on green vinyl) RAL DONNER: Don't Let It Slip Away (Starfire on orange vinyl) FIVE KEYS: Stop What You're Doing To Me (Landmark on red/blue blended vinyl) More when I think of them! Gene Edited February 23, 2006 by Gene-R
Garethx Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 The Five Keys on Landmark came out in seemingly endless colour combinations. I bought a few of these off Garry Cape some years ago and all were on completely different coloured vinyl, from almost black with the merest tint of red to a mind-bogglingly psychedelic multi-coloured red, yellow, green and purple effort with the remains of a local newspaper (!) pressed into the plastic. I think the one I've still got is half red/half green. The case of the record pressing plant worker who produced his own custom sets was highlighted when a mottled grey DJ copy of the Delfonics "Ready Or Not" on Philly Groove sold for a couple of hundred dollars on ebay. The great Kim Tolliver 12" on Tayster appeared in a couple of variations of sickly purple, pretty low quality plastic. I think this may have happened with many budget pressings of soul (and other) records in the early 80s as stocks of what we commonly refer to as vinyl (of the high quality black variety)were starting to be phased out as the major record corporations tried to force through the introduction of CD.
Guest sydney bridge Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 I once had an Eastside Connection"Your so right for me"12 that was multicoloured.
Guest Ste Brazil Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 I've got a red vinyl 12" copy of 'Lovin is really my game' - Brainstorm, pretty easy to get hold of and just too fast to dance too - well for me anyway! Ste.
Guest Ste Brazil Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 I've got a red vinyl 12" copy of 'Lovin is really my game' - Brainstorm, pretty easy to get hold of and just too fast to dance too - well for me anyway! Ste. Oh, and a blue vinyl copy of 'Soul time' somewhere or other too.....
Guest johnm Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 I've a copy of Chris Rea's album 'Deltics' on blue vinyl OK it's not soul but it does have song called 'Twisted Wheel' on it about the club of the same name....
Paul McKay Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 In the late 70s early 80s quite a few UK 12" were pressed in coloured vinyl eg. Edwin Starr - Contact - Pink Baryy White - Just the way you are - White
Ged Parker Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 (edited) as an off shoot to the commands topic what coloured (colored over here ) do you have in your collections heres a few ive had or seen: commands - Red - Dynamic Proffesionals - Gold - Groove City Artistics - Purple - Okeh Ted Taylor - Purple - Okeh Bobby Taylor - Red - VIP Gene Toones - Blue - Simco Bobby patterson - Jeststar - Orange few other motown releases on red wax must be more?? Kevin My understanding is that many boots (Re Issues) of rock and roll / dowop 45's were put out on coloured vinyl and this was the only difference from the originals as they used the original stampers. Surely this teqnique will have been used for soul 45's as well? I have a few scatered about. Anyone know if the Red Vinyl Astra copy of the Volumes - Gotta Give Her Love is legit? I always thought it was a boot but JM had in one of his price guides at £100 Qulaity tune I play on the American Arts release but keep both because I'm not sure about the legitimacy of the Astra one. Ged Edited February 23, 2006 by ged parker
Guest NASHEE Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 (edited) this may be of interest https://www.tefteller.com/html/45s_page1.html or this https://www.dancecrasher.co.uk/colouredvinyl.html Edited February 23, 2006 by NASHEE
Gene-r Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 I have a few scatered about. Anyone know if the Red Vinyl Astra copy of the Volumes - Gotta Give Her Love is legit? I always thought it was a boot but JM had in one of his price guides at £100 Qulaity tune I play on the American Arts release but keep both because I'm not sure about the legitimacy of the Astra one. Ged Been told it was a US re-issue from around 1966. I had one of these on yellow vinyl - wonder if it was pressed on any other colours?
Gene-r Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 (edited) My understanding is that many boots (Re Issues) of rock and roll / dowop 45's were put out on coloured vinyl and this was the only difference from the originals as they used the original stampers. Surely this teqnique will have been used for soul 45's as well? Ged A lot of doo-wop/rock & roll 45s were booted on coloured vinyl. They didn't use original stampers in all cases, as far as I am aware (if any). It's my understanding that they're all out-and-out bootlegs Ged. Some early '70s doo-wop/rock & roll boots will have "Reissued 1973" or something like that pressed in the run-out area. Edited February 23, 2006 by Gene-R
Guest Bearsoul Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 as an off shoot to the commands topic what coloured (colored over here ) do you have in your collections heres a few ive had or seen: commands - Red - Dynamic Proffesionals - Gold - Groove City Artistics - Purple - Okeh Ted Taylor - Purple - Okeh Bobby Taylor - Red - VIP Gene Toones - Blue - Simco Bobby patterson - Jeststar - Orange few other motown releases on red wax must be more?? Kevin CHUCK WAYNE 'AT LAST YOU CAME' EMPIRE (yellow)
Ged Parker Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 A lot of doo-wop/rock & roll 45s were booted on coloured vinyl. They didn't use original stampers in all cases, as far as I am aware (if any). It's my understanding that they're all out-and-out bootlegs Ged. Some early '70s doo-wop/rock & roll boots will have "Reissued 1973" or something like that pressed in the run-out area. I seem to remember having the Boss tones - Mope itty Mope on Boss 501 in both black and seperately in red vinyl the red one looked unplayed (i.e. Brand New) but it was identical in all other respects to the black one I assumed it was a boot. I know it came out on Boss 401 later curiously and did think for a while 401 was the first release. Maybe the red one was a limited issue anyway it went in a trade some time back so I'll never know. Still surely this happened with soul 45's? Any idea Gene? Ged
Gene-r Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 (edited) I seem to remember having the Boss tones - Mope itty Mope on Boss 501 in both black and seperately in red vinyl the red one looked unplayed (i.e. Brand New) but it was identical in all other respects to the black one I assumed it was a boot. I know it came out on Boss 401 later curiously and did think for a while 401 was the first release. Maybe the red one was a limited issue anyway it went in a trade some time back so I'll never know. Still surely this happened with soul 45's? Any idea Gene? Ged Hmmm.....well, my belief is that original coloured vinyl in America, during the 50s and 60s was made for radio DJs, rather than for public domain. The reason being is that DJs would have to rake through pile upon pile of new releases every week for their radio show, and the coloured vinyl promos were a way of making the records stand out amongst the mundane black vinyl promos. The hope was that, because they looked attractive, they would encourage DJs to pay more attention to them, and give them airplay simply because they looked cute. There is another possible side to it. Remember that demos and promos were almost, always pressed on virgin vinyl, rather than recycled vinyl, which was used for a lot of stock copies, since the sound quality would have been ten times better, particularly for broadcast purposes. The same can also be said for coloured vinyl; sound quality appears to be a lot better. I've come across boxes of doo-wop boots & reissues in rock & roll/swing shops, and quite a sizeable amount of these had been pressed on coloured vinyl. However, it's easy to tell that they're boots, mainly due to the way the grooves look, and also checking the slapdash quality of any run-out markings. Other than that, I wonder if the odd coloured vinyl stock copy was the work of a pressing plant worker, who either pressed a few up for his own collection, or wanted to brighten up a boring day at the plant by pouring coloured crystals in the vat just to see what came out? Perhaps it was one or two of these that just happened to leak out from his hands. Certainly looking at Tefteller's website (whcih Miss Popcorn has kindly provided a link for on here), it's amazing to see how many of the coloured vinyl pressings were "found at the home of a pressing plant worker in 1999"! Hope this helps you Ged, and hope I haven't gone off into a tangent! Gene Edited February 23, 2006 by Gene-R
Guest Netspeaky Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 American collectors have a passion for coloured vinyl and would much rather have a coloured vinyl release than a black vinyl. Combination of being more attractive, better sound quality and in some cases rare.
Ged Parker Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 Hmmm.....well, my belief is that original coloured vinyl in America, during the 50s and 60s was made for radio DJs, rather than for public domain. The reason being is that DJs would have to rake through pile upon pile of new releases every week for their radio show, and the coloured vinyl promos were a way of making the records stand out amongst the mundane black vinyl promos. The hope was that, because they looked attractive, they would encourage DJs to pay more attention to them, and give them airplay simply because they looked cute. There is another possible side to it. Remember that demos and promos were almost, always pressed on virgin vinyl, rather than recycled vinyl, which was used for a lot of stock copies, since the sound quality would have been ten times better, particularly for broadcast purposes. The same can also be said for coloured vinyl; sound quality appears to be a lot better. I've come across boxes of doo-wop boots & reissues in rock & roll/swing shops, and quite a sizeable amount of these had been pressed on coloured vinyl. However, it's easy to tell that they're boots, mainly due to the way the grooves look, and also checking the slapdash quality of any run-out markings. Other than that, I wonder if the odd coloured vinyl stock copy was the work of a pressing plant worker, who either pressed a few up for his own collection, or wanted to brighten up a boring day at the plant by pouring coloured crystals in the vat just to see what came out? Perhaps it was one or two of these that just happened to leak out from his hands. Certainly looking at Tefteller's website (whcih Miss Popcorn has kindly provided a link for on here), it's amazing to see how many of the coloured vinyl pressings were "found at the home of a pressing plant worker in 1999"! Hope this helps you Ged, and hope I haven't gone off into a tangent! Gene Cheers Gene, Been a good thread this certainly got me thinking anyway. The link did throw up some fine examples of coloured vinyl one offs. Ged
Gene-r Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 And here, from my personal collection, is one of the first American coloured vinyl 45s. It dates back to 1949, the year 45s were first made available in the USA. It's released by RCA, who were the first record company to issue coloured vinyl 45s. This would have been their 4th release; "Cool Water" by Sons Of The Pioneers.
kirkatron Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 Barbara McNair - Here I am baby - Red vinyl
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