Ed Crook

[Guest souldaddy]

i am selling some records in the SALES forum. on my list is a copy of Ed Crook on TRI-SOUND "It's Alright" CAN ANYONE HELP ME please determine if my copy is original?? i have had two inquiries to know if it is original...i didnt know this was booted or reissued. i got mine from a shop down south in the US. if mine is no original, i am very sorry...the matrix on my copy is: TS 601

[vaultofsouler]

i am selling some records in the SALES forum. on my list is a copy of Ed Crook on TRI-SOUND "It's Alright" CAN ANYONE HELP ME please determine if my copy is original?? i have had two inquiries to know if it is original...i didnt know this was booted or reissued. i got mine from a shop down south in the US. if mine is no original, i am very sorry...the matrix on my copy is: TS 601

Souldaddy.... the original has the "nashville" matrix stamped in the run off groove....

[Lazy]

Think the first press has also 3 stars as hyphen in Tri *** Sound ...

[Jerry Hipkiss]

Think the first press has also 3 stars as hyphen in Tri *** Sound ...

And aren't there two label designs? One with lines and one without?

Hippo.

[Guest]

Don't know about the lines, but i thought one had the11825 HAMILTON, DETROIT, MICH 48203 address at the bottom & the other didn't. see pic . I was always under the impression that this was the harder one to find & that it was the first press ??

One of my all time favourites, even if it was on "Honest Bob's Bootiful Bootleg lable" !!

Edited February 9, 2006 by B-side-B

[Guest souldaddy]

my copy looks exactly like the pic posted! no nashville in the run-out groove...i reckon mine is not original :=(

[Guest soul stormers]

Don't know about the lines, but i thought one had the11825 HAMILTON, DETROIT, MICH 48203 address at the bottom & the other didn't. see pic . I was always under the impression that this was the harder one to find & that it was the first press ??

One of my all time favourites, even if it was on "Honest Bob's Bootiful Bootleg lable" !!

HI ALL

HOPE THIS HELP ORIG HAS THE NASHVILLIE STAMP

[Keithw]

know its not really relavent

but I have a test pressing

stamped nashville

but the name on record is

EDGAR CROOK

guess this might of been his proper name :

[Guest souldaddy]

upon further investigation on my copy, i have located the nashville in the deadwax!!!!! i think we have an original after all. thanks all for helping!

Edited February 9, 2006 by souldaddy

[Keithw]

heres the scan attached

[Guest ZTSC]

Check out also , Devotions "Same old sweet lovin" on Tri-Sound it's a great slab of female Detroit

Edited February 10, 2006 by ZTSC

[Pete S]

heres the scan attached

I got outbid on that :angry:

Topics merged - Rachel

Edited February 10, 2006 by rachel

[Guest]

HI ALL

HOPE THIS HELP ORIG HAS THE NASHVILLIE STAMP

There is a Nashville stamp on my copy too. Sure i read somewhere that this copy with the address on was the rarer of the two, Anyone put us out of our misery ?

[Cheltsoulnights]

There is a Nashville stamp on my copy too. Sure i read somewhere that this copy with the address on was the rarer of the two, Anyone put us out of our misery ?

Yeh i read that somewhere as well

but over the years have seen at least 50 copies of that one and only one with the line design

its a funny world we live in

[Guest]

It was definitely right !! because the place where i saw it, also had a piece about this guy who lives at the North Pole who dresses in red & delivers presents at christmas & we all know that's true, don't we !!!

(believe bloody anything me !!)

Edited February 13, 2006 by B-side-B

[Gene-r]

I remember seeing the test pressing of "Edgar Crook" (sic) up for auction in one of Dave Raistrick's lists around 1983. Is this the one you have Keith, and the one you got outbid on Pete?

Or is this a third label variation, designed by pupils from St Winifred's Primary School, Altrincham?

[Chalky]

Don't know about the lines, but i thought one had the11825 HAMILTON, DETROIT, MICH 48203 address at the bottom & the other didn't. see pic . I was always under the impression that this was the harder one to find & that it was the first press ??

One of my all time favourites, even if it was on "Honest Bob's Bootiful Bootleg lable" !!

There is a Nashville stamp on my copy too. Sure i read somewhere that this copy with the address on was the rarer of the two, Anyone put us out of our misery ?

Yeh i read that somewhere as well

but over the years have seen at least 50 copies of that one and only one with the line design

its a funny world we live in

I'd agree with Pete as I've seen many more plain yellow with the address copies than the one with lines.

[pikeys dog]

I'd say the one with the lines is definately the rarer of the two above.

My copy isn't the same as either of them - it's like the plain one - but it has Dimensional Sound below the Tri - Sound (each word is to each side of the centre).

I know it was booted with the same design label as mine, but this is easily spotted as;

a ) it's doesn't have the Nashville Matrix stamp

b ) The bottom of the "L" in "Dimensional" is missing.

Edited February 13, 2006 by pikeys dog

[Keithw]

I remember seeing the test pressing of "Edgar Crook" (sic) up for auction in one of Dave Raistrick's lists around 1983. Is this the one you have Keith, and the one you got outbid on Pete?

only recently won it,so Pete obviously didnt bid high enough

it came from a dealer in the states who picks up a lot of good stuff usually

had the copy with stars before ,sold that n kept this un

keith williams

[Sebastian]

I knew that I had read something about the Ed Crook "issue" on another forum in the past and now I've found it, hope no one minds that I'm posting this... according to Joe Moorehouse over at the RareSoulForum:

Major Reynolds, who owned Tri-Sound, told me that the cross-and-stars design on Ed Crook is a pirate copy. After the record became a hit locally, someone (he didn't know who, I don't think) had additional copies pressed up without Major's permission and sold them without his knowledge. Interestingly, this sort of thing apparently happened pretty often, or at least a lot of old musicians and label owners claim it did.

Strange though that they both seems to have been pressed with the same master/stamper (Nashville markings etc.). Perhaps it was stolen? I don't know, just reporting what I've read elsewhere.

Edited February 14, 2006 by Sebastian

[Stuart Bower]

my copy looks exactly like the pic posted! no nashville in the run-out groove...i reckon mine is not original :=(

the runout groove is wider on the boot....

Edited February 14, 2006 by The Soul Intention

[Stuart Bower]

I'd say the one with the lines is definately the rarer of the two above.

My copy isn't the same as either of them - it's like the plain one - but it has Dimensional Sound below the Tri - Sound (each word is to each side of the centre).

I know it was booted with the same design label as mine, but this is easily spotted as;

a ) it's doesn't have the Nashville Matrix stamp

b ) The bottom of the "L" in "Dimensional" is missing.

....and isn`t it (the boot) a different (wishy washy) shade of yellow? (The colour looks wrong) Also the runout groove (dead wax) seems too wide. But you`re correct-look for the stamp everytime. But like 99% of 45s.. put the boot beside the real `un and it`s EASY to tell!!

Edited February 14, 2006 by The Soul Intention

[harpo1]

I HAD ONE WITH 4 BLACK BARS RUNNING INTI CENTRE EQUALLY SPACED , I KNOW DAVE ALLCOCKS WAS THE SAME . BUT HADNT SEE ANY MORE TILL PIC ON HERE