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whats the going rate for a definite original of this going for these days, not played mine for 3 or 4 years now and might part with it to get something else

prices and conditions seem to be all over the place, mine certainly isnt mint but its in good nick

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Staceys Dad
Staceys Dad

normally goes for about £10 but will take it off your hands for £15.....

John Reed
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Go on, you don't need it. £25 + 6 eggs from my neighbour’s chickens + my daughter’s old riding boots size 13

Pete S
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Don't think you'll get that much but good luck, £200 - £250 I'd have sold it for, except I haven't got one so I can't...

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Generous to a fault. How could i turn down an offer that good. Goes a long way to my next copy of crank wilson

Steve Foran Long Time

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I think around £125 to £150. As a matter of interest I have an Orange issue BUT it is not the Atco 72 repress. Credits Wylie rather than Wylia like the repress, and it has the same layout as the Green issue. Got the provenance with it when I bought it about 20 years or so. Will try to get my son to post it on here as I am crap at that technology.

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Am i either living in the twilight zone or have i got the rough inklings of value seriously misjudged

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I'm loving that this has turned into an auction although the the reserve price, if there were one is far from being a flog it moment just yet. I was sure i asked for some informed and educated market information from people i thought might offer some help;-)

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Andy - there are several label variations of this, the rarest and priciest being the 60s orange issue. There's also a green issue and 2 types of white demo, together with umpteen boots & reissues. A scan would help your valuation question but I'd say 300 quid wouldn't be far off the mark, more for a minter.

Cheers

Pete

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I'm loving that this has turned into an auction although the the reserve price, if there were one is far from being a flog it moment just yet. I was sure i asked for some informed and educated market information from people i thought might offer some help;-)

Go on, you don't need it. £25 + 6 eggs from my neighbour’s chickens + my daughter’s old riding boots size 13

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cheers for all the info chaps, i'm thinking its well worth £300 so I'm going to put it on ebay for that and see how I get on

wish me luck

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............As a matter of interest I have an Orange issue BUT it is not the Atco 72 repress. Credits Wylie rather than Wylia like the repress, and it has the same layout as the Green issue. Got the provenance with it when I bought it about 20 years or so. Will try to get my son to post it on here as I am crap at that technology.

That's a rare one Steve. Yet to see one of these in the flesh.

Steve Foran Long Time

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As I said when 16 year old is feeling compliant I will get him to work the magic with my box brownie. Remember struggling couple of years ago took piccies, inserted card into PC could I work out how to get the image from comp onto ebay. He walked in click, click,click and there we were. FFS! Can I remember? More chance of a lottery win.

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I've got West Coast Green Label Demo with a Delta Number - pressed at Monarch.

My wife won me it off John M's auction for my 40th.

Not cheap, as you'd expect shopping at that particular shop!

A keeper.

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cheers for all the info chaps, i'm thinking its well worth £300 so I'm going to put it on ebay for that and see how I get on

wish me luck

Don't think you'll get that much but good luck, £200 - £250 I'd have sold it for, except I haven't got one so I can't...

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This is mine.....just running your finger over that raised 'x'... ......minter than a mint thing etc...okay apart from the drill-hole!!!.....I want it placed in my cold. dead hand just before they put the lid on!!!

Don't rush to buy shovels SS'ers......cremation for me........ :lol: :lol: :lol:

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West coast issues are vinyl and not styrene...... don't have the raised "X"

Pete S Veteran

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West coast issues are vinyl and not styrene...... don't have the raised "X"

Watchootalkinbout Steve.

Most West Coast issues are styrene and if it doesn't have a raised X it's a bootleg.

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.I want it placed in my cold. dead hand just before they put the lid on!!!

Don't rush to buy shovels SS'ers......cremation for me........ :lol: :lol: :lol:

Actually, on another vinyl forum someone was saying they know an undertaker and it's not that uncommon for people to want to depart with some of their favourite music. However, there are strict rules when it comes to cremation and you can't burn other stuff, like plastics. So, sometimes the undertaker will cheekily just remove the offending article without anyone noticing... so, to re-phrase - don't all rush to check the crematorium bins SS'ers... :wicked:

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Here's mine - upgraded to the Detroit address w/d from the plain w/d, although quite why this is an upgrade I can't really explain.. except in my head it is :huh:

Cheers......Pete

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I don't think I'd ever buy this record, having it on CD is enough, but what's the definitive release, the WD with or without addy, green, or orange issue and all that,

funny actually, cause George Blackwell, or Salvadors is in the same stable really, and I'd have an orig of either one of those at a snap...

just interested.

Mal

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I don't think I'd ever buy this record, having it on CD is enough, but what's the definitive release, the WD with or without addy, green, or orange issue and all that,

funny actually, cause George Blackwell, or Salvadors is in the same stable really, and I'd have an orig of either one of those at a snap...

just interested.

Mal

You never did have any taste though mate........... :D

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Watchootalkinbout Steve.

Most West Coast issues are styrene and if it doesn't have a raised X it's a bootleg.

Your losing it buddy...........this is the vinyl issue, not pressed at Shelley Products NY so it has no raised "X" (Shrine etc) i`m pretty sure its east coast press.

This one!

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Also..................I bought this from yourself! :lol:

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Here's a question - I'm too lazy to count them up but it seems like there's about, what 8 different pressings of this? Why wasn't it a hit? And why did they keep on pressing it and pressing it? Most small labels would have quit after one go. Or wasn't HIB a small label? Is there anything else on it? Questions, questions...

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Here's a question - I'm too lazy to count them up but it seems like there's about, what 8 different pressings of this? Why wasn't it a hit? And why did they keep on pressing it and pressing it? Most small labels would have quit after one go. Or wasn't HIB a small label? Is there anything else on it? Questions, questions...

Some of the later ones were illegal bootlegs. The reason why there are quite a few different variations of the original 60s press is the different pressing plants and locations around the US.

There are actually 3 different demo`s of the 45, 2 white....with different label layouts and 1 green west coast styrene promo.

And thankfully for us it wasn't a hit......I dont think HIB had any other outings.

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I have always considered that the white DJ copy with the Detroit address as shown below is the demo version of the orange label issue (Wylie credit) shown above.

The other white DJ is the demo version of the green label vinyl issue shown above.

Cheers

Richard

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Pete S Veteran

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Your losing it buddy...........this is the vinyl issue, not pressed at Shelley Products NY so it has no raised "X" (Shrine etc) i`m pretty sure its east coast press.

This one!

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Also..................I bought this from yourself! :lol:

Yeah that is East Coast, you said West Coasts were vinyl, I disagreed.


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East - West what's the difference unless your first names Fred. Sorry! A bit of a fu@% up with the paper work today Mr East your free to leave anytime you like. Are there more styrene than any other version of the press?

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I have always considered that the white DJ copy with the Detroit address as shown below is the demo version of the orange label issue (Wylie credit) shown above.

The other white DJ is the demo version of the green label vinyl issue shown above.

Cheers

Richard

Richard that is my thinking. Makes sense.

Julianb Veteran

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Some of the later ones were illegal bootlegs. The reason why there are quite a few different variations of the original 60s press is the different pressing plants and locations around the US.

There are actually 3 different demo`s of the 45, 2 white....with different label layouts and 1 green west coast styrene promo.

And thankfully for us it wasn't a hit......I dont think HIB had any other outings.

Is this the one you were talking about?

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Yep! :yes:

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Thought so Steve.

I played it a few years ago in Barrow and a 'know all' came up and said 'that's a pressing'.

Told him to f*** off and to go away and educate himself :D:yes:

Julian

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Here's mine - upgraded to the Detroit address w/d from the plain w/d, although quite why this is an upgrade I can't really explain.. except in my head it is :huh:

Cheers......Pete

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The Atco distributed copies were done at a number of different pressing factories. Some used the Detriot address some did not

None of the record variations were made in Detroit

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