Jordirip Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 That GQ "Disco Nights" is a phenomenal piece of music. I bought this when it came out and still play it at home now. it's got some of the best guitar interplay I've ever heard and I love playing it to my non scene / indie / rock mates to show them what guitar playing is. People think of disco as simple piss easy music to play, Ha!! don't make me laugh, it's tightness and skill is beyond any comparisons to the so called skill of indie and rock music. Jordi PS Dave and Pete, I like your disco taste. 3
Popular Post jocko Posted November 14, 2012 Popular Post Posted November 14, 2012 Disco...anything after December 31st 1969 isn't it Oh Mr Chalkster you may be jesting, but I suspect 100's of string vested and drafty trousered people are nodding, and chewing, furiously in agreement with you. I love it when one nation rewrites part of another nations history, especially one that is frequally rewritten by their own revisionists, e.g Black American history was created, defined and finished in a B alroom in Northern England. So in answer to Barry's question, obviously from above. some yes, some no. I am particularly humoured by the new disco sucks brigade dance their heart off to Archie Bell Where Will You Go........ And my personal answer to Barry is yes I am, some of the greatest music Black America ever produced was disco music, and it lasted well beyond the 70's, not like Mr Dewhirst to get his musical history wrong but he is getting older, with some of the greatest disco produced in the 80's. Can't do a link but D-Train You Are The One For Me, Greatest disco record ever, greatest house record ever, possibly the greatest dance record ever. Discuss. 5
Pete S Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 Can't do a link but D-Train You Are The One For Me, Greatest disco record ever, greatest house record ever, possibly the greatest dance record ever. Discuss. It's alright.
jocko Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 That GQ "Disco Nights" is a phenomenal piece of music. I bought this when it came out and still play it at home now. it's got some of the best guitar interplay I've ever heard and I love playing it to my non scene / indie / rock mates to show them what guitar playing is. People think of disco as simple piss easy music to play, Ha!! don't make me laugh, it's tightness and skill is beyond any comparisons to the so called skill of indie and rock music. Jordi PS Dave and Pete, I like your disco taste. I went to see Nile Rodgers in the Edinburgh Book Festival, plugging his new book, which coincidentally is fantastic and well worth a read, and his view to musical standards supported Jordi's. Fantastically interesting chap and more music in his little toe than a whole generation of Coldplay copiests. Discuss part 2. 1
Paddy Ferry Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 Understand it, no that time in my life is just a blur with the odd flash back. The king of disco though was George McCrae.
Barry Posted November 14, 2012 Author Posted November 14, 2012 I went to see Nile Rodgers in the Edinburgh Book Festival, plugging his new book, which coincidentally is fantastic and well worth a read, and his view to musical standards supported Jordi's. Fantastically interesting chap and more music in his little toe than a whole generation of Coldplay copiests. Discuss part 2. Aye - belting read
Jordirip Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 Oh Mr Chalkster you may be jesting, but I suspect 100's of string vested and drafty trousered people are nodding, and chewing, furiously in agreement with you. I love it when one nation rewrites part of another nations history, especially one that is frequally rewritten by their own revisionists, e.g Black American history was created, defined and finished in a B alroom in Northern England. So in answer to Barry's question, obviously from above. some yes, some no. I am particularly humoured by the new disco sucks brigade dance their heart off to Archie Bell Where Will You Go........ And my personal answer to Barry is yes I am, some of the greatest music Black America ever produced was disco music, and it lasted well beyond the 70's, not like Mr Dewhirst to get his musical history wrong but he is getting older, with some of the greatest disco produced in the 80's. Can't do a link but D-Train You Are The One For Me, Greatest disco record ever, greatest house record ever, possibly the greatest dance record ever. Discuss. D-Train was a good 'un. When disco shifted towards the Jazz/Funk style we had another slew of killer classics for the dancefloor. You only have to listen to the first few bars of this guitar driven killer to know that it's a special groove. Eddie Henderson. ....and then of course there's this majestic piece of brilliance. Lonnie Liston smith. 3
Popular Post Cunnie Posted November 16, 2012 Popular Post Posted November 16, 2012 Is this too slow? Great thread but why not in AATS? 4
Popular Post Cunnie Posted November 16, 2012 Popular Post Posted November 16, 2012 A Northern Soul Wigan Casino monster (best Disco in the world wasn't it?). Guess now it would be called Funky Modern Disco shite. Funny how times change innit. 4
Guest Posted November 17, 2012 Posted November 17, 2012 Proper "Disco" As played by American dj's.. https://www.deephousepage.com/media/Rahaan_Disco_02_05_03.ram
Autumnstoned Posted November 18, 2012 Posted November 18, 2012 I went to see Nile Rodgers in the Edinburgh Book Festival, plugging his new book, which coincidentally is fantastic and well worth a read, and his view to musical standards supported Jordi's. Fantastically interesting chap and more music in his little toe than a whole generation of Coldplay copiests. Discuss part 2. Don't know if either of you play guitar, but I've found that many musicians hold a healthy respect for players in other genres. Two of my favourite guitarists Clarence White RIP (Byrds) and James Burton ( Elvis, Gram Parsons ) are country pickers and could probably be described as virtuoso players. Same as Jimmy Page ( Led Zep ) another fave - no-one touches his scorching riffing ability and he's a fine accoustic player too. However, none of them could play the Chic - Good Times guitar motif with the same swing and deft tenacity that Nile Rodgers achieved. That really is a hard one to copy well. But I suspect Nile would probably falter at a session if he was handed a B bender Telecaster and requested to play some chicken picking'. It's horses for courses with guitarists - amazingly difficult to be really good in all styles and comparisons across genres very hard to establish.
Cunnie Posted November 19, 2012 Posted November 19, 2012 Proper "Disco" As played by American dj's.. https://www.deephouse...co_02_05_03.ram One step at a time Tony
Ian Dewhirst Posted November 19, 2012 Posted November 19, 2012 And my personal answer to Barry is yes I am, some of the greatest music Black America ever produced was disco music, and it lasted well beyond the 70's, not like Mr Dewhirst to get his musical history wrong but he is getting older, with some of the greatest disco produced in the 80's. Discuss. I really believe the 'Disco' era ended in '79 - by 1980 the traditional Disco sound was over and the 80's productions became more machine-led and sophisticated in production terms. Sure I guess you could still call it Disco but by the 80's most people were simply calling it Dance in my world. Disco was a dirty word by then. Ian D
Ian Dewhirst Posted November 19, 2012 Posted November 19, 2012 Now THIS is Disco! Crown Heights Affair - Dreaming A Dream https://youtu.be/ZXvhYuCaPZ4 Ian D 3
Barry Posted November 20, 2012 Author Posted November 20, 2012 Now THIS is Disco! Crown Heights Affair - Dreaming A Dream Ian D :0) - I won a copy of the album from Dave Evison @ Rotherham (!?) when he ran an impromptu 'Name That Tune' quiz about 6am - Bobby Bland - 'Shoes'
Dave Moore Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 As this thread has developed somewhat, have moved it to Look In Your Box as it's felt it might have more contributions/legs in that forum. Regards, Dave 1
Geeselad Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 love it love it, I have more salsoul and philly than any other sub genre. like virtually everything posted, trouble is an awful lot of NS fans ain't music fans, just collectors that like specific records, and as such will hate everything that varries from there rigid scope of dancefloor fodder. 3
Geeselad Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 https://youtu.be/U95wtChb9wM dont split hairs and say this isnt please, just quality tunage whatever you call it 2
Tim Smithers Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 D-Train was a good 'un. When disco shifted towards the Jazz/Funk style we had another slew of killer classics for the dancefloor. You only have to listen to the first few bars of this guitar driven killer to know that it's a special groove. Eddie Henderson. ....and then of course there's this majestic piece of brilliance. Lonnie Liston smith. Both brilliant
Dave Moore Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 trouble is an awful lot of NS fans ain't music fans, just collectors that like specific records, and as such will hate everything that varries from there rigid scope of dancefloor fodder. Or......here's an alternative take..... MOST NS fans like music that's been crafted by musicians. Music that began as a series of sounds in someone's brain, then arranged, rehearsed, performed, rejigged, produced, mastered, and finally you end up with the final product. A lot of early disco was also created the same way. The Philly 70s stuff is fantastic. But you see, once the disco era exploded, a lot of it sounded like it was created from a fookin' automatic loop on a second hand Bontempi music maker. Had it all kept faith with the likes of Baker, Harris and Young's initial creativity then probably more 'music fans' would appreciate it now. On a personal basis, I like much of it, but it's still the singer/songwriter led stuff, that took real musicians to interpret it properly, that grabs me. Here's a disco record that I love. 60s meets the sweet sounding Mark Covington. Brilliant! Regards, Dave https://youtu.be/8zpexKAyflA 1
nickp Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 (edited) Sail away to a Caribbean Dream ! John Gibbs and U. S Steel Orchestra 'Trinidad'. Edited November 20, 2012 by nickp
Kev John Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 (edited) as Funkadelic said 1 nation under the groove Edited November 20, 2012 by soulghost 1
Kev John Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 love it love it, I have more salsoul and philly than any other sub genre. like virtually everything posted, trouble is an awful lot of NS fans ain't music fans, just collectors that like specific records, and as such will hate everything that varries from there rigid scope of dancefloor fodder. i agree with you geese anybody who slags of the other gendre's of the soul scene are Dinasours in my eyes I'm a Black music collector :thumbup: . and don't forget Dinasours extinct :excl: 2
Geeselad Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 just re reading peter shaprio's 'turn the beat around' the best book on the subject imho, really a great read, specifically the chapter about philly where he describes how salsoul nicked the best musicains from philly and toughned up the sound to take the rhythm sections to another level.
TOAD Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 a recent cd and brill disco funk - los charlys orchestra
Pete S Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 anybody who slags of the other gendre's of the soul scene are Dinasours in my eyes Like anyone gives a toss...
Mister Fish Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) Disco or Modern? Brainstorm - Loving is really my game Gentlemen & Ladies - Like her Blood Hollins - Don't give up South Shore Commission - Free man Moment Of Truth - Helplessly King Tutt - You got me hung up Loveman ronnie Stokes - Touch you again Curtis - How can i tell her Mark Iv - Signs of a dying love Milton Hamilton Crystalized - My love supreme Disco or Jazz Funk? Idris Muhammed - Could heaven ever be like this Atmosfear - Dancing in outer space Lonnie Liston Smith - Expansions Dexter Wansel - Life on mars War - World is a ghetto EW&F - BIYO Miroslav Vitous - New york city I like em all! Edited November 21, 2012 by Mister Fish 1
Pete S Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 Disco or Modern? Brainstorm - Loving is really my game Gentlemen & Ladies - Like her Blood Hollins - Don't give up South Shore Commission - Free man Moment Of Truth - Helplessly King Tutt - You got me hung up Loveman ronnie Stokes - Touch you again Curtis - How can i tell her Mark Iv - Signs of a dying love Disco or Jazz Funk? Idris Muhammed - Could heaven ever be like this Atmosfear - Dancing in outer space Lonnie Liston Smith - Expansions Dexter Wansel - Life on mars War - World is a ghetto EW&F - BIYO Miroslav Vitous - New york city I like em all! I can't see any disco records on that list. Someone had better define it. Instant Replay, that's disco. Do you all love that one? Is it like the best record ever made?
Mister Fish Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 Modern & Jazz Funk. Apart from King Tutt all came out on a disco 12''
Guest MrC Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) Apart from King Tutt all came out on a disco 12'' That doesn't make them Disco - even if tthe Curtis track is full of those 'disco' syn drums.... Edited November 21, 2012 by MrC
Mister Fish Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 I can't see any disco records on that list. Someone had better define it. Instant Replay, that's disco. Do you all love that one? Is it like the best record ever made? Nope!
Pete S Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 Apart from King Tutt all came out on a disco 12'' How do you mean, what's a disco 12", is that cos it says 'disco 12' on the sleeve? I've got loads of reggae 12" like that, all the sleeves say Disco 12. They are hardly Disco though.
Guest MrC Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 I can't see any disco records on that list. Someone had better define it. Instant Replay, that's disco. Do you all love that one? Is it like the best record ever made? :lol:
Mister Fish Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) That doesn't make them Disco - even if tthe Curtis track is full of those 'disco' syn drums.... I know. Even though it's a Disco mix on a Disco 12'' it ain't always Disco. Any way I thought The Casino was best Disco in the world once! Edited November 21, 2012 by Mister Fish
Pete S Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) I know. Even though it's a Disco mix on a Disco 12'' it ain't always Disco. Any way I thought The Casino was best Disco in the world once! Clubs were called Discos in those days though, short for Discotheque, this is before there was a type of music referred to as Disco. I used to collect 'disco' records as did Mr.C - these were the records played at our local youth club disco and they would basically be (at the time) new soul releases like The Moments, Detroit Emeralds, Linda Carr etc along with the real popular disco records of the time which were mainly Motown oldies, and things like Al Capone, Festival time, Be young be foolish be happy etc. Edited November 21, 2012 by Pete S
John Reed Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) Apart from King Tutt all came out on a disco 12'' Thought Life on Mars was originally a 7" and LP cut and then retrospectively released as a UK 12" long after the Disco boom years. Edited November 21, 2012 by John Reed
Mark R Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 Apart from King Tutt all came out on a disco 12'' So did King Tutt......very rare! Cheers, Mark R 2
jocko Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) Clubs were called Discos in those days though, short for Discotheque, this is before there was a type of music referred to as Disco. I used to collect 'disco' records as did Mr.C - these were the records played at our local youth club disco and they would basically be (at the time) new soul releases like The Moments, Detroit Emeralds, Linda Carr etc along with the real popular disco records of the time which were mainly Motown oldies, and things like Al Capone, Festival time, Be young be foolish be happy etc. Stop watching BBC4, read some of the books talked about elsewhere, and at least get a semi educated point of reference. Or even better get into a relevant disco now, its still happening. Or stop talking rubbish. Mr Fish, all great disco records. Edited November 21, 2012 by jocko 1
jocko Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 I can't see any disco records on that list. Someone had better define it. Instant Replay, that's disco. Do you all love that one? Is it like the best record ever made? Maybe in Wolverhampton Mecca they told you it was, they lied. You are so innocent and naive sometimes, you are almost cute.
Pete S Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 Maybe in Wolverhampton Mecca they told you it was, they lied. You are so innocent and naive sometimes, you are almost cute. Patrick Hernandez - Born to be alive, do you all love that one, is it a fantastic soul disco record, am I f8cking mad for not liking it?
Pete S Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 Stop watching BBC4, read some of the books talked about elsewhere, and at least get a semi educated point of reference. Or even better get into a relevant disco now, its still happening. Or stop talking rubbish. Mr Fish, all great disco records. Jock, I'm probably 7 or 8 years older than you so I actually remember this stuff when it happened, I remember the horrors of disco music 1978-1980, I've got the Last Night A DJ book so f*ck off and stop being so patronising....except you can't, can you.
Guest MrC Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) Stop watching BBC4, read some of the books talked about elsewhere, and at least get a semi educated point of reference. Or even better get into a relevant disco now, its still happening. Or stop talking rubbish. Mr Fish, all great disco records. But none of them are disco records - not in the way Crown Heights Affair - Dreaming A Dream is a disco record, and as the very knowledgeable Mr Dewhirst has already said, the age of 'proper' Disco ended in 1979 Edited November 21, 2012 by MrC
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