Amsterdam Russ Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 I'd heard some months back that at the next Utrecht Record Fair there was to be a display of what is being described as the entire catalogue of Motown LPs. Not yet found a convincing description of what that means exactly, but it certainly sounds impressive and will definitely make for a fantastic display. There's an article in Record Collector about the owner of these LPs, Marc Jansen... 1
Guest Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 Would make a good coffee table book, all the US Motown family album covers together I'm proud to say after years of research and continuous digging that I'm getting close to completing 60's Motown released in 60's Japan on 7", 7" EP and LP...the many variations of stock/demo/test press, sleeve design etc can be a minefield to the collector! 1
Amsterdam Russ Posted October 19, 2012 Author Posted October 19, 2012 Ever the self-publicist, Flynny!
Pete S Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 I'd heard some months back that at the next Utrecht Record Fair there was to be a display of what is being described as the entire catalogue of Motown LPs. Not yet found a convincing description of what that means exactly, but it certainly sounds impressive and will definitely make for a fantastic display. There's an article in Record Collector about the owner of these LPs, Marc Jansen... Hardly Mr Personality, is he?
Ian Dewhirst Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) Hardly Mr Personality, is he? I find it significant that he didn't manage to mention a single act or a specific title throughout the whole interview. It may just have been a bad interview but you would have thought that a bit more passion may have come across. Mind you, over the years, I've seen many examples of 'completists' who just like amassing a collection because it's a challenge including many who don't seem particularly bothered about the music but more bothered about showing off their shelves - a similar mentality to train-spotters who simply collect the numbers of trains. I've never really understood the label completist thing to be honest. Very few labels have 100% great records. I can't see the point of picking up Soupy Sales, Tom Clay, Bruce Willis or Charlene records on a classic label 'cos frankly I'd never play 'em. They'd just be taking up space for me personally..... Ian D Edited October 19, 2012 by Ian Dewhirst 1
Pete S Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 I find it significant that he didn't manage to mention a single act or a specific title throughout the whole interview. It may just have been a bad interview but you would have thought that a bit more passion may have come across. Mind you, over the years, I've seen many examples of 'completists' who just like amassing a collection because it's a challenge including many who don't seem particularly bothered about the music but more bothered about showing off their shelves - a similar mentality to train-spotters who simply collect the numbers of trains. I've never really understood the label completist thing to be honest. Very few labels have 100% great records. I can't see the point of picking up Soupy Sales, Tom Clay, Bruce Willis or Charlene records on a classic label 'cos frankly I'd never play 'em. They'd just be taking up space for me personally..... Ian D He was asked twice what his most interesting / rarest record was. He didn't have a clue. 1
Amsterdam Russ Posted October 19, 2012 Author Posted October 19, 2012 He was asked twice what his most interesting / rarest record was. He didn't have a clue. I'm afraid the writer and editor must take responsibility for anything that's actually printed. Anyway, I thought the thing of interest here was the collection of Motown LPs, not the opportunity for character assassination! 2
Ian Dewhirst Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 I'm afraid the writer and editor must take responsibility for anything that's actually printed. Anyway, I thought the thing of interest here was the collection of Motown LPs, not the opportunity for character assassination! True Russell. An in-depth article would have done everyone more favours I think...... Ian D
Peter99 Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 His shelves look nice, tidy and well organised. Where the feck he got the shirt from is beyond me. 1
Amsterdam Russ Posted October 19, 2012 Author Posted October 19, 2012 His shelves look nice, tidy and well organised. Where the feck he got the shirt from is beyond me. True Soul Source style!
Popular Post Amsterdam Russ Posted October 19, 2012 Author Popular Post Posted October 19, 2012 You know, I shared this on Soul Source because I thought that the members on here would appreciate the efforts of a collector, any collector, with an obvious passion/obsession with the music we supposedly all share a common interest in. I also thought that perhaps a few here might want to point out a few LPs that are worth looking out for - true rarities - or releases so rare or obscure that they might be missing from the supposedly complete collection. Indeed, I mistakenly thought that people might appreciate such a collection being shared with the public at large. It's a unique exhibition. It should be enjoyed as such. Instead, what do we get? A junior school playground in which it's preferred to try and belittle a collector based on what - dress and personality? I'll be at the Utrecht Record Fair and will make a point of seeing this exhibition. Why not be a bit more constructive and point out a few covers worth looking out for? 4
Popular Post paultp Posted October 19, 2012 Popular Post Posted October 19, 2012 To be honest he seems to have collected the Lps for completeness rather than for the music contained within them. If you interview most collectors they can tell you what they cherish most, what the "gems" are in their collection. He seems to have a passion for collecting rather than for the music. I've tried the completeness thing with collecting the first 100 Uk Motown LPs and I'm afraid I got bored with it, I didn't realise how many sh*t LPs Motown released in the UK. Just because people don't share your obvious admiration for the guy there's no need to be abusive. Enjoy the exhibition. 6
Diggin' Dave Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 I'm not the completist type of collector myself but I really appreciate what he's doing here. Collecting a full run of LPs that shaped music history and then putting it on display for all and for future generations is a very noble thing to do. -> I'm going to check it out. I would've gone to Utrecht fair anyway though. Already looking forward to the smell of those that care more about collecting than their own body hygiene 1
Guest Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 Ever the self-publicist, Flynny! Would love to see the definitive listing...an incredible achievement if 100%. There's a thought, would be gutting if somone spotted something missing x1000 LPs will take an almighty amount of wall space...cue someone to now go and measure a sleeve and do the math
Guest toby Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 12,000 m2 of wall space (One hell of a display) I very much doubt they have the space unless they use an entire wall
Steve G Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 Yep interesting. I didn't think the interview was that good, but that is down to the interviewer / editor. It is one heck of a collection of albums that's for sure, and as a label collector myself I know what it's like to try and get everything on a particular label including the dross. I think he's done well and should be proud of his achievement. I do wonder how much it costs him to ship this stuff about, both in financial terms and strained muscles..... 1
Trev Thomas Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 does it matter if he's collected them for the love of the music or just because he likes the pictures on the covers, bottom line is, he's completed the motown album collection, how many on here can say the same, i for one would love to see them, as dave flynn said it would make an amazing book, respect to the guy 1
Pete S Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 You know, I shared this on Soul Source because I thought that the members on here would appreciate the efforts of a collector, any collector, with an obvious passion/obsession with the music we supposedly all share a common interest in. I also thought that perhaps a few here might want to point out a few LPs that are worth looking out for - true rarities - or releases so rare or obscure that they might be missing from the supposedly complete collection. Indeed, I mistakenly thought that people might appreciate such a collection being shared with the public at large. It's a unique exhibition. It should be enjoyed as such. Instead, what do we get? A junior school playground in which it's preferred to try and belittle a collector based on what - dress and personality? I'll be at the Utrecht Record Fair and will make a point of seeing this exhibition. Why not be a bit more constructive and point out a few covers worth looking out for? Well thanks for sharing Russell but the interview was dreadful and the bloke had hardly anything to say, stop being such a drama queen.
Mrtag Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 He was asked twice what his most interesting / rarest record was. He didn't have a clue. I think he might be a politician Pete..........They are really good at NOT answering a question (usually because they haven't got a clue either )........
Pete S Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 You know, I shared this on Soul Source because I thought that the members on here would appreciate the efforts of a collector, any collector, with an obvious passion/obsession with the music we supposedly all share a common interest in. I also thought that perhaps a few here might want to point out a few LPs that are worth looking out for - true rarities - or releases so rare or obscure that they might be missing from the supposedly complete collection. Indeed, I mistakenly thought that people might appreciate such a collection being shared with the public at large. It's a unique exhibition. It should be enjoyed as such. Instead, what do we get? A junior school playground in which it's preferred to try and belittle a collector based on what - dress and personality? I'll be at the Utrecht Record Fair and will make a point of seeing this exhibition. Why not be a bit more constructive and point out a few covers worth looking out for? This is the problem with this site lately. People sucking the life out of it like vampires, the slightest bit of humour, oh no you can't do that, when certain people come on a topic it's like the whole happy atmosphere is sucked out of the window and we're all left feeling glum...this site has been in the doldrums for a while now, not helped by the missing refosoul but Christ if you can't make a remark about a guy who is obviously very rich (flies out to America every month on buying trips), who has 3 complete collections but doesn't appear to know anything about them, avoids answering the questions, then what can you actually do or say without people taking offence? It's like coming into work every day and doing a dull boring office job, now and again someone will liven it up a little until the suits come in and tell you to sit down and shut up. 3
Kjw Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 The interview mentions his complete collection of TK albums - that would be an interesting listing to see with the likes of Leon Debouse, Milton Wright, Rocky Mizell, Raw Soul Express etc on all those small subsiduary labels
Peter99 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 You know, I shared this on Soul Source because I thought that the members on here would appreciate the efforts of a collector, any collector, with an obvious passion/obsession with the music we supposedly all share a common interest in. I also thought that perhaps a few here might want to point out a few LPs that are worth looking out for - true rarities - or releases so rare or obscure that they might be missing from the supposedly complete collection. Indeed, I mistakenly thought that people might appreciate such a collection being shared with the public at large. It's a unique exhibition. It should be enjoyed as such. Instead, what do we get? A junior school playground in which it's preferred to try and belittle a collector based on what - dress and personality? I'll be at the Utrecht Record Fair and will make a point of seeing this exhibition. Why not be a bit more constructive and point out a few covers worth looking out for? FFS! Get a sense of humour. You might want to take a look at some of the stuff you've posted on here.
Amsterdam Russ Posted October 20, 2012 Author Posted October 20, 2012 Found some more info on the exhibition and on Marc Janssen. Sadly, there's no info on where he buys his shirts. Friend of the Motown Stars Because of his famous collection and knowledge of soul music Marc Janssen is friendly with many artists in the Motown club and regularly meets stars like Diana Ross, Lionel Ritchie, Erykah Badu and Bobby Womack, usually in America but sometimes they visit his home when they are in Holland for performances. If you click on this link there's an overview of the exhibition: https://www.recordplanet.nl/en/platenbeurs-2012.html There are scans here of some of the LP covers that will be on display (there are over 300 images): https://www.recordplanet.nl/en/motown.html This link provides a complete listing of the covers in the exhibition: https://www.recordplanet.nl/en/motown-records.html 1
Agentsmith Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 pete,....can i be referee here? soulsource stagnating??,...naw,......this is fabulous saturday afternoon entertainment!! :lol: beats the shite served up on telly,...C'MON EVERYBODY, LETS ALL HAVE A BIT OF KEYPAD FISTICUFFS!! dont you just love these icons? 1
paultp Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 Some of those scans are amazing, thanks for posting. You do wonder how LPs like "Red Jones Steeerikes Back" got released in among that lot on the Motown label. What on earth is on that LP?
George G Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 (edited) Some of those scans are amazing, thanks for posting. You do wonder how LPs like "Red Jones Steeerikes Back" got released in among that lot on the Motown label. What on earth is on that LP? Baseball related spoken comedy LP. Jones was an umpire, Ackerman was a longtime Detroit radio sports talk guy. I don't think it's aged well if it was funny to begin with. It's pretty rare but no demand. Edited October 20, 2012 by George G
Only Dreaming Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 Found some more info on the exhibition and on Marc Janssen. Sadly, there's no info on where he buys his shirts. If you click on this link there's an overview of the exhibition: https://www.recordpla...beurs-2012.html There are scans here of some of the LP covers that will be on display (there are over 300 images): https://www.recordpla.../en/motown.html This link provides a complete listing of the covers in the exhibition: https://www.recordpla...wn-records.html Brilliant Russell - thanks for sharing. Dave
soulpaul0 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 ..can i be referee here? soulsource stagnating??,...naw,......this is fabulous saturday afternoon entertainment!! :lol: beats the shite served up on telly,...C'MON EVERYBODY, LETS ALL HAVE A BIT OF KEYPAD FISTICUFFS!! dont you just love these icons? no i don't, out side now 1
Steve G Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 What's more interesting to me is the Motown albums of the last 15 years that haven't been issued. Frank McComb, Z.Z. Hill's son, Tania Marie etc. Done on CDR promos, then never officially released.
Chris Anderton Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 Russel, I was reading about this on the Utrecht site, would love to have seen the collection but unfortunatly I can`t make the show this time. As somebody said, pictures of all of the Motown Lp covers would make a great book, I`d certainly buy a copy. I once met Curtis McNair (Lp cover designer at Motown) at the Motown museum, had a brief chat, top bloke too! Chris
Kegsy Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 Yep interesting. I didn't think the interview was that good, but that is down to the interviewer / editor. It is one heck of a collection of albums that's for sure, and as a label collector myself I know what it's like to try and get everything on a particular label including the dross. Which labels, I'm sure I could supply you with some overpriced dross. Kegsy 1
Steve G Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 Which labels, I'm sure I could supply you with some overpriced dross. Kegsy Don't worry your pretty little head Kegsy , I've already been to the mountain and got all the dross I need thanks.
Carty Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 thanks for posting the album covers,but having a bit of a laugh about the guy,wheres the harm in that?hes too busy having lunch with diana ross to be reading this
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