Roy Roberts On Ninandy - Help

[Timid Tomas]

I recently brought another copy of "Got To Have Your Love" on Ninandy to replace a battered copy I had.

However as according to earlier topics on this subject the record feels quite different (and the font is not very crisp) when compared to the other copy I had.

Could anyone do me a massive favour and tell me if there is a stamp or written matrix in the dead wax (and the numbers/letters making it up), as I don't have my battered copy any more!

Thanks very much in advance!

Tomas

Edited October 15, 2012 by Timid Tomas

[Neckender]

On the run-out groove (dead wax as our american friends call it) of the side 'got to have your your love' there is a series of stamped letters and numbers: W4KM-0277- - 1

Followed by a scratched A1

Opposite this there is a single scratched R.

Hope that helps.

[Prophonics 2029]

Is that then its an RCA pressed record but mastered out side.

[Garethx]

Not quite Tony. The 4 means RCA themselves mastered the record.

W = mastered in 1968

4 = mastered by RCA from client's tapes

K = a 45rpm master

M = a Mono master

The stamped R means pressed at RCA Rockaway New Jersey.

[Timid Tomas]

Thanks very much for the info guys!

Mine has the same series ( W4KM-0277 - 1 then an A1) but they are all scratched and not stamped.

So I guess it is just a lookalike boot where someone copied the original matrix number, but had to scratch it in?

[Timid Tomas]

I think I will buy a BoRo copy next time

[Prophonics 2029]

Barstuards.

Thaks Garethxxxx

[Guest]

Not quite Tony. The 4 means RCA themselves mastered the record.

W = mastered in 1968

4 = mastered by RCA from client's tapes

K = a 45rpm master

M = a Mono master

The stamped R means pressed at RCA Rockaway New Jersey.

All true...plus according to the info on...ahem, https://www.anorakscorner.com/PressingPlantInfo.html , the mastering would have been between January and June '68, due to the '4' being before the 'K'.

Fascinating stuff, eh!?!

[Garethx]

Must say Dave's site is an invaluable source of this type of information.

[Andyf]

Not quite Tony. The 4 means RCA themselves mastered the record.

W = mastered in 1968

4 = mastered by RCA from client's tapes

K = a 45rpm master

M = a Mono master

The stamped R means pressed at RCA Rockaway New Jersey.

All true...plus according to the info on...ahem, https://www.anoraksco...gPlantInfo.html , the mastering would have been between January and June '68, due to the '4' being before the 'K'.

Fascinating stuff, eh!?!

So the BoRo release would have come out late '67 ?

[pikeys dog]

So the BoRo release would have come out late '67 ?

Well Otis hit the lake in winter '67, so it would be unlikely to be any earlier (flipside is a song about him passing).

[Guest]

Intersting snippet:

"Roberts wasn’t even supposed to be the singer on the session–just the guitarist–but a last-minute switch due to someone else’s hangover led to Bo-Ro #102, his first release"

https://www.carolinasoul.org/site/index.php/site/comments/bishop_grady_vs._moore_roberts/