Why Tell Fibs Lol

[Guest turntableterra]

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I know you did mate I bought em all off you then sold them too

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you cant have done grant, coz another 30 people say they did pmsl. and your only smiling coz city did well LOL

[Guest Byrney]

Quite common people saying they went to nighters when clearly they didn't. A lot would have you believe they went since early doors up to now without a break.

Although it seemed to me that 80s to early 90s seemed to be a hardcore of 500 - 1000 punters.

Go figure

[Guest turntableterra]

(quote name='grant' timestamp='1349766188' post='1807404']

I know you did mate I bought em all off you then sold them too

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(quote name='grant' timestamp='1349766188' post='1807404']

I know you did mate I bought em all off you then sold them too

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ya cant have lenny, i never had any. LOL i got mine off the net, bought a load of collections of boots became a dj and tell everyone i went to wigan, seems to work for others thought id give it a go..........LOL. do ya fancy dj ing at my 21th. but in the end you can only lie to yourself.

I see city did well......

[Naughty Boy]

A bloke Im aware of on face book ,keeps posting tunes ,this is a torch classic that's a torch classic but I know he was only 14 when the torch closed its doors in 1973 ,Just makes me smile and wonder why

Bazza

we all know a good few of them Baz . the thing that gets me is they think we a frigging daft , they don't realise that in the main in most areas of the uk we all knew each other in our own areas and many folks from others.

[Shaun W]

Lies lies and damn lies, it's always been the same. I was so disillusioned with the scene back in 1976 that I walked away from it and invented Punk Rock. Once this had its day I moved on and invented the New Romantic movement. However, all good things come to an end and by the early 80's I'd recaptured my enthusiasm for the scene, I spent time in America discovering literally hundreds of one offs which I then passed on to Butch. That's how I remember it anyway.

True story

There was a well known BullSh*tter who was living in Peterborough in the early 80's, he didn't just tell very tall stories but he also managed to tell them in regional accents depending on his target audience. In the Peterborough area he spoke generally with an Apples and Pears, Chim Chimminey Cheragh kind of Mockney accent. However, on the Leicester 2^nd Anniversary video he's clearly waxing lyrical with a Yorkshire accent. He's no longer on the scene but remains, I'm reliably informed — a first class grade A knacker.

[Len]

"A liar starts off by fooling others and then end up fooling themselves" - Not sure who originally said this, but it's so true isn't it? I actually find it fascinating, as I do all human behaviour - Not least my own!

Len.

Edited October 10, 2012 by LEN

[Bazza]

we all know a good few of them Baz . the thing that gets me is they think we a frigging daft , they don't realise that in the main in most areas of the uk we all knew each other in our own areas and many folks from others.

Yes Rob,some funny folk around lol,hope your well not seen ya for ages

Bazza

[wiganelli]

Thats what i was trying to say Rob about Wigan, it was'nt the point i went early days, but how people later on in years start to say they was here there and everywhere,Wiganers who attended Casino (NIGHTERS) early days were very few,infact i would say less than 50 in total,but know half of Wigan was there ?

[Gene-r]

Bang on,the scene is full of bullshitters anyway and if i knew the bloke and was really bothered i'd challenge him but does it really matter

There are bullshitters everywhere, not just on the scene (where the name droppers love 'Stafford' and 'Wigan'), but most other places in the world of record collecting. LIke the tw*t who got chatting to me in a record shop run by my late friend Bill Cottom some 15 years ago, and the conversation turned to Elvis. "I've got an Elvis Sun 78 at home........Jailhouse Rock" he tried to tell me. The relaxed mood in the record shop was quickly shattered by me shouting (deliberately so that everyone else heard), "B**locks, you haven't got Jailhouse Rock on a Sun 78". The shop went silent, and Bill gave him a dirty look. He tried to walk away with a silly smile on his face, and about 4 customers giving him daggers!

Those that know their Elvis stuff will know that Jailhouse Rock was only issued on RCA - it was three years too late to be issued on Sun!

Or the Ebay weirdo who tried to brag that he had lots of celebrity contacts, including a contact who worked for the BBC, because he wanted one of my records cheaper than I had set the starting price, and tried to say it was for him. I asked him which department his friend made tea for, and got a rather defensive response which caused him to receive a warning from Ebay for inappropriate language (and, needless to say, blocked from my auctions)! What made it even funnier was that his Ebay name was "honest dave"!

Edited October 9, 2012 by Gene-R

[Naughty Boy]

Yes Rob,some funny folk around lol,hope your well not seen ya for ages

Bazza

No doubt Baz we will catch up soon, bump into one another im well mate too thanks for asking hows yourself .just going back to the topic about ten years ago this lad was telling how he used to go to the wheel and the Torch , i didnt go i was too young but this f##ker is 5 years younger than me and was not on the scene then he carried on to tell me how good sammies was in 71 etc . its a shame he could not tell me the places original name ffs

[wiganelli]

There are bullshitters everywhere, not just on the scene (where the name droppers love 'Stafford' and 'Wigan'), but most other places in the world of record collecting. LIke the tw*t who got chatting to me in a record shop run by my late friend Bill Cottom some 15 years ago, and the conversation turned to Elvis. "I've got an Elvis Sun 78 at home........Jailhouse Rock" he tried to tell me. The relaxed mood in the record shop was quickly shattered by me shouting (deliberately so that everyone else heard), "B**locks, you haven't got Jailhouse Rock on a Sun 78". The shop went silent, and Bill gave him a dirty look. He tried to walk away with a silly smile on his face, and about 4 customers giving him daggers!

Those that know their Elvis stuff will know that Jailhouse Rock was only issued on RCA - it was three years too late to be issued on Sun!

Or the Ebay weirdo who tried to brag that he had lots of celebrity contacts, including a contact who worked for the BBC, because he wanted one of my records cheaper than I had set the starting price, and tried to say it was for him. I asked him which department his friend made tea for, and got a rather defensive response which caused him to receive a warning from Ebay for inappropriate language (and, needless to say, blocked from my auctions)! What made it even funnier was that his Ebay name was "honest dave"!

(nice 1)

[Naughty Boy]

Thats what i was trying to say Rob about Wigan, it was'nt the point i went early days, but how people later on in years start to say they was here there and everywhere,Wiganers who attended Casino (NIGHTERS) early days were very few,infact i would say less than 50 in total,but know half of Wigan was there ?

Exactly .. mate like that everywhere now .. but heyho what ever floats their boat , i cannot see the need though if you only just got into it fooking great enjoy it but please dont try and tell us how it should be done or how it was

[wiganelli]

Exactly .. mate like that everywhere now .. but heyho what ever floats their boat , i cannot see the need though if you only just got into it fooking great enjoy it but please dont try and tell us how it should be done or how it was

Well said 100% agree ,see you at the Brid

[manus]

Nothing wrong with mentioning The Casino, it's PART of the tapestry of the scene......But there is something very wrong with people who did go that think that makes them superior to people who didn't. I once asked an 'Ol Boy' about his 'beginings' as I was interested in his take on the early days, because he had 'an edge'.....he replied, "That was then Lenny, what's now is important" - Wow, cool or what?! - My respect for this individual is now sky high.

All the best,

Len.

I think that's part of the problem - that some folks dismiss other peoples experiences as irrelevant because they weren't around at the same time period as them. Everyones experiences are valid - doesn't matter when they started.

The other side of this coin is the occasional person who hasn't been around for 5 minutes insisting on telling you how it was. Maybe both groups should get together and let the rest of us enjoy the now.

Cheers

Manus

[Guest gordon russell]

"A liar starts off by fooling others and then end up fooling themselves" - Not sure who originally said this, but it's so true isn't it? I actually find it fascinating, as I do all human behaviour....Not least my own!

Len.

Len l knew from the moment we met at the wheel....l knew i,d like you .....well up to a point lol

[Guest gordon russell]

There are bullshitters everywhere, not just on the scene (where the name droppers love 'Stafford' and 'Wigan'), but most other places in the world of record collecting. LIke the tw*t who got chatting to me in a record shop run by my late friend Bill Cottom some 15 years ago, and the conversation turned to Elvis. "I've got an Elvis Sun 78 at home........Jailhouse Rock" he tried to tell me. The relaxed mood in the record shop was quickly shattered by me shouting (deliberately so that everyone else heard), "B**locks, you haven't got Jailhouse Rock on a Sun 78". The shop went silent, and Bill gave him a dirty look. He tried to walk away with a silly smile on his face, and about 4 customers giving him daggers!

Those that know their Elvis stuff will know that Jailhouse Rock was only issued on RCA - it was three years too late to be issued on Sun!

Or the Ebay weirdo who tried to brag that he had lots of celebrity contacts, including a contact who worked for the BBC, because he wanted one of my records cheaper than I had set the starting price, and tried to say it was for him. I asked him which department his friend made tea for, and got a rather defensive response which caused him to receive a warning from Ebay for inappropriate language (and, needless to say, blocked from my auctions)! What made it even funnier was that his Ebay name was "honest dave"!

was his mate jimmy saville?

[Guest gordon russell]

I think that's part of the problem - that some folks dismiss other peoples experiences as irrelevant because they weren't around at the same time period as them. Everyones experiences are valid - doesn't matter when they started.

The other side of this coin is the occasional person who hasn't been around for 5 minutes insisting on telling you how it was. Maybe both groups should get together and let the rest of us enjoy the now.

Cheers

Manus

Manus......it,s easy to tell the genuine folk.......they wear polo shirts with either BRUNSWICK or OKEH on em....how ya doing anyway

[Gene-r]

was his mate jimmy saville?

Maybe that's why he was so defensive!

[Citizen P]

Manus......it,s easy to tell the genuine folk.......they wear polo shirts with either BRUNSWICK or OKEH on em....how ya doing anyway

Actually mine says

"RIDE ON"

Tony

[Len]

Len l knew from the moment we met at the wheel....l knew i,d like you .....well up to a point lol

I thought we 'spoke' at 'The Wheel' (Ged it?!!!)

Len

[Bazza]

Aup Bazza! Hope you're doing ok? I had to smile when I read your post because its rife isn't it? People claiming to have been here , there and everywhere, being DJs for God knows how long, being mates with certain people because they think it gives them some credence in the eyes of others etc etc... I just think they must be very very sad people with no history to their boring lives that they have to make up stories to big themselves up. Just off topic a bit but someone I have known for many many years has acquired a completely different past to the one I know he had even gaining a degree along the way when I know he never went near a university or could have actually ever completed one!!! Some people just make you laugh!!

Take Care Bazza - hope to see you around soon : Perhaps at Hollingwood?

Sharon

X

Hi Sharon ,hope you and Chris are well ,Hollingwood ,since when ,not heard about it x

[Guest gordon russell]

I thought we 'spoke' at 'The Wheel' (Ged it?!!!)

Len

Oh leave off...i,m tyred of your jokes

[Chas]

I set off for an all dayer in London once,next thing you know I found myself on centre court at Wimbledon...thing is,I wasn't even seeded!..you couldn't make it up could you?

[Sharon Cooper]

Hi Sharon ,hope you and Chris are well ,Hollingwood ,since when ,not heard about it x

We're very well thanks Bazza - yes the return of Hollingwood starting properly on the 1st Saturday in January and then every month: Chris and Mort have decided to start again! I will send you a PM about it in a bit more detail

Sharon

X

[Peter99]

Some coppers nicked us once after a car crash on the way home from Clifton Hall. Me and my mates were taken to hospital and the police literally dragged us from our hospital beds down to the local nick. Sat there being questioned in a heightened state of paranoia about all sorts of shit - including how much gear I'd consumed the night before and who i got it off .....................I told a right load of fibs! The car which collided with us was being driven by the Chief Constable of the force with his lady wife in the passenger seat.

LOL

[Guest Matt Male]

A bloke Im aware of on face book ,keeps posting tunes ,this is a torch classic that's a torch classic but I know he was only 14 when the torch closed its doors in 1973 ,Just makes me smile and wonder why

Bazza

Is your point that he's lying because he was only 14 and no one aged 14 ever went to nighters?

[Len]

I don't think most of this thread is aimed at the poor chap mentioned in the opening post. Actually in answer to the opening post, it looks to me that he is simply explaining where the records were originally played, not that he went to The Torch - Lots of lists have comments like this after records.

But, it has opened a good debate.

All the best,

Len

Edited October 10, 2012 by LEN

[Dazdakin]

Lies lies and damn lies, it's always been the same. I was so disillusioned with the scene back in 1976 that I walked away from it and invented Punk Rock. Once this had its day I moved on and invented the New Romantic movement. However, all good things come to an end and by the early 80's I'd recaptured my enthusiasm for the scene, I spent time in America discovering literally hundreds of one offs which I then passed on to Butch. That's how I remember it anyway.

True story

There was a well known BullSh*tter who was living in Peterborough in the early 80's, he didn't just tell very tall stories but he also managed to tell them in regional accents depending on his target audience. In the Peterborough area he spoke generally with an Apples and Pears, Chim Chimminey Cheragh kind of Mockney accent. However, on the Leicester 2^nd Anniversary video he's clearly waxing lyrical with a Yorkshire accent. He's no longer on the scene but remains, I'm reliably informed — a first class grade A knacker.

That has to be "Stuart"??

[Dave Abbott]

A bloke Im aware of on face book ,keeps posting tunes ,this is a torch classic that's a torch classic but I know he was only 14 when the torch closed its doors in 1973 ,Just makes me smile and wonder why

Bazza

Just had a quick scan through the posts - BUT I can't see a link to where this bloke has committed this misdemeanor??

Before making judgement, i would like to see some links to Youtube where he has called the record a 'Torch Classic' AND at the same time claimed to be there...

I have put on some of my YouTubes posts about venues I have never been to!!

So, please put a link up...

[Guest drewid]

i think it undermines the integrity of the club when you get folk re-inventing their past , i know of one or two that tell me they went to the casino in a certain year and they would have been 13/14 at the time .and i would have been 15/16, i know for a fact they didnt but to me it kind of gives the image (to outsiders , stiffs etc , thats what we called non souls by the way)that it was a bit ,you know ,youth clubby? thats my gripe about it otherwise couldnt give a shit, they know theyre bullshitting,

[Benji]

A bloke Im aware of on face book ,keeps posting tunes ,this is a torch classic that's a torch classic but I know he was only 14 when the torch closed its doors in 1973 ,Just makes me smile and wonder why

Bazza

Bazza,

Is the bloke saying he went to the Torch?Or is he just saying song so and so is a Torch classic?

[Guest drewid]

another one that gets me ,is the ones who have the records but theyre "up in the loft" , "go get em then", "cant too much stuff to shift" bollox, also why would you put them in the loft where it gets to about 90 in summer ,i am talking loft /roof space here not a attic or loft conversion

[Dave West]

We used to go to samantha's sheffield back in '74 anyway this guy from Grimsby always said he had every record we mentioned,so in the end we started making names up and sure enough he had them too. friend lived in Pollington a small village near goole,the next village is called Hurst Cortney,and yes when asked this guy had, on a demo.. Erst Courtney and the Pollo's.....Its a Long Long Road......

[Guest Bearsy]

Ah the Wheel I remember it well :-) remember riding me scooter there for its first ever night in 65 and what a night it was too, them was the good ol days .....

[Peter99]

Ah the Wheel I remember it well :-) remember riding me scooter there for its first ever night in 65 and what a night it was too, them was the good ol days .....

Yeah, you told fecking porkies about that lead - and the copper piping.

Mm, does anyone call you, or even remember that we used to call you - a Pikey fecker!

LOL

[KevH]

Ah the Wheel I remember it well :-) remember riding me scooter there for its first ever night in 65 and what a night it was too, them was the good ol days .....

[sir cumference]

We used to go to samantha's sheffield back in '74 anyway this guy from Grimsby always said he had every record we mentioned,so in the end we started making names up and sure enough he had them too. friend lived in Pollington a small village near goole,the next village is called Hurst Cortney,and yes when asked this guy had, on a demo.. Erst Courtney and the Pollo's.....Its a Long Long Road......

Hilarious-did the same thing to a couple of locals,convinced them to buy "she shot a hole in my soul" by Clifford Curry-making out it was "I can`t get a hold of myself"!(You can make the words fit the tune,but you must be a f**kwiif you can`t differentiate!

[Gene-r]

We used to go to samantha's sheffield back in '74 anyway this guy from Grimsby always said he had every record we mentioned,so in the end we started making names up and sure enough he had them too. friend lived in Pollington a small village near goole,the next village is called Hurst Cortney,and yes when asked this guy had, on a demo.. Erst Courtney and the Pollo's.....Its a Long Long Road......

I once had a bullshitter uncle who was one of these know-all wankers (most of my uncles and their families were in any case) who claimed he was an black belt in Tae Kwan Do. When I told him I had a friend who went one better than that and was a black belt in Shakuhachi-Senzuri, he claimed to be an black belt in that too.

It's a good thing, for his sake, that he never looked up Shakuhachi Senzuri - from what I'd been led to believe all these years, it's the Japanese phrase for 'wank'! Maybe Dave Flynn can confirm that one way or the other? If I'm wrong, and it's complimentary, then my lying uncle (well, one of them) has had the last laugh from his grave!

Edited October 10, 2012 by Gene-R

[Gene-r]

Ah the Wheel I remember it well :-) remember riding me scooter there for its first ever night in 65 and what a night it was too, them was the good ol days .....

Not a bad achievement for someone born in 68!

[Guest Bearsy]

Not a bad achievement for someone born in 68!

I'm innumerate Gene. Hope your well matey ;-)

[Guest Bearsy]

I miss them tassles lol

[Guest Bearsy]

Yeah, you told fecking porkies about that lead - and the copper piping.

Mm, does anyone call you, or even remember that we used to call you - a Pikey fecker!

LOL

Got a good price too for that lot, sorry vicar lol. Pikey to my mates Peter lolol

[Gene-r]

I'm innumerate Gene. Hope your well matey ;-)

I am thanks Paul! How's things? Hope all is well at your end too - catch up again soon, I hope......

Edited October 10, 2012 by Gene-R

[Guest Bearsy]

I am thanks Paul! How's things? Hope all is well at your end too.

All good thanks Gene life pretty good, good to hear yours is too ;-)

[Citizen P]

We used to go to samantha's sheffield back in '74 anyway this guy from Grimsby always said he had every record we mentioned,so in the end we started making names up and sure enough he had them too. friend lived in Pollington a small village near goole,the next village is called Hurst Cortney,and yes when asked this guy had, on a demo.. Erst Courtney and the Pollo's.....Its a Long Long Road......

Sure I've got one of those in the loft.

Tony

[Guest Andy Kempster]

its not exclusive to the soul scene, i spent a lot of time on the early acid/rave scene and believe me the amount of people who claimed to be present at the likes of shoom and spectrum right at the start was astounding (not me by the way in case you're wondering) it doesnt take long to develope a yeah yeah whatever attitude on any scene but people soon get found out whatever your choice of music scene is

[Guest chorleybloke]

This poor lad's probably thinking fook me what have I started here? Did he say he actually went to the Torch or did he just post up the tracks and advertise them as Torch classics? Not clear in the original post but if its the latter that's not exactly a hanging offence is it?

Cheers

Pete

[Guest toby]

Ah the Wheel I remember it well :-) remember riding me scooter there for its first ever night in 65 and what a night it was too, them was the good ol days .....

Oi Bearsy no way pikey boy,your old nag Hercules pulled the cart from the dirty side of the river to the land of make belive

[Guest Byrney]

Andyk123

Standing joke on the house scene is if all who said they did do Shoom actually did it would be the size of 10 football pitches. Same sh@t different scene

[Kevinkent]

I used to pretend that I went to the Wheel, when Jnr Walker was on. (If questioned i couldn't remember much 'cos I had blockers block). - but that was when I was16 or 17 and eager to impress. I never did make it there and would have liked to attend the last 'niter - but I figured it should be left to those that held it dear.

Same with the Torch re-unions - I declined tickets for the first one 'cos I reckoned I couldn't "re-unite" as I never went to Hose St.

Never went to Wigan either, and didn't fancy it at the time - though I feel now as though I missed out on something special.

I've got my own memories of little places, forgoten by some and unheard of by many, that were special to me and I don't feel the need to fabricate.

The only people this seems to mildly disappoint are the younger crowd in Europe, who seem a bit surprised that an old fart like me wouldn't have attended the legendary venues that they seem to know so much about. But it really doesn't matter.

Cut the crap if you're a bullsh!tter - it's unneccessary and you're fooling no-one but yourself!

That said, if a tune was a Torch or Wheel classic, there's sod all wrong with saying so ( mmm....even if it was played in a barn in Northants/Beds first).

- Kev