Why Tell Fibs Lol

[Bazza]

A bloke Im aware of on face book ,keeps posting tunes ,this is a torch classic that's a torch classic but I know he was only 14 when the torch closed its doors in 1973 ,Just makes me smile and wonder why

Bazza

[Peter99]

A bloke Im aware of on face book ,keeps posting tunes ,this is a torch classic that's a torch classic but I know he was only 14 when the torch closed its doors in 1973 ,Just makes me smile and wonder why

Bazza

Each to their own Bazza. I'm sure he means well - the lying bastard!

LOL

[Citizen P]

A bloke Im aware of on face book ,keeps posting tunes ,this is a torch classic that's a torch classic but I know he was only 14 when the torch closed its doors in 1973 ,Just makes me smile and wonder why

Bazza

Doesn't stop said tunes being Torch classics though does it ??

Tony (aged 56 and 4and a bit months-nearly 17 when The Torch closed)

[Bazza]

Doesn't stop said tunes being Torch classics though does it ??

Tony (aged 56 and 4and a bit months-nearly 17 when The Torch closed)

Bazza 57 and six month ,no suppose it don't,but inffering you were there ,don't sit rite with me

Bazza

[Citizen P]

Bazza 57 and six month ,no suppose it don't,but inffering you were there ,don't sit rite with me

Bazza

Well, yes I'd agree on that score.

Why feel the need to invent a history for yourself.

Never went to The Torch meself btw-started Pendulum in '72 and by the time I'd worked meself up for it, it'd shut--

Mind you I have a few mates who are still trying to convince me I went to The Wheel

Must be the fresh faced look.

T

[Bazza]

The torch only really lasted a year 72 to 73,if any one sez different they don't know what they are talking about ,it opened in 65 as a mod club,but nighters only lasted just 1 year

Bazza

[Kegsy]

I'm only 40;

I went to the Torch as an embryo.

kegsy

[Pete S]

We all know people like that.

They always went somewhere you knew they hadn't, always said they'd heard records that they hadn't.

Wannabees.

[Dennisoul]

I'm only 40;

I went to the Torch as an embryo.

kegsy

Hahahaha brilliant

[Stuart Bower]

A bloke Im aware of on face book ,keeps posting tunes ,this is a torch classic that's a torch classic but I know he was only 14 when the torch closed its doors in 1973 ,Just makes me smile and wonder why

Bazza

Agreed Bazza. Ah yes, BS in the scene. It's everywhere and has been for years. Agree with tonyp-It doesn't stop anyone posting stuff as such-and-such classics unless he/she claims he/she actually WAS there. By the way, sometimes I hate telling everyone how old I am and sometimes I don't give a shit. I was 13 when the Torch closed its doors so I wasn't exactly a regular!.

Edited October 8, 2012 by Stuart Bower

[Bazza]

Agreed Bazza. Ah yes, BS in the scene. It's everywhere and has been for years. But it doesn't stop anyone posting stuff as such-and-such classics unless he/she claims he/she actually WAS there. By the way, sometimes I hate telling everyone how old I am and sometimes I don't give a shit. I was 13 when the Torch closed its doors so I wasn't exactly a regular!.

Hi stu lol,place is full of kids ,I think Im getting to be a dynosaur, hope you and Cath are ok x

[viphitman]

I am glad I didn't go, otherwise I would be a friggin old fart

[Stuart Bower]

Hi stu lol,place is full of kids ,I think Im getting to be a dynosaur, hope you and Cath are ok x

Yes thanks Barry. We are fine. Hope you are well also. And no, you are not a dinosaur. Drop in and see us this coming Sunday at Stanfree. We'd love to see you again my friend..

[Bazza]

I am glad I didn't go, otherwise I would be a friggin old fart

Don't be cheeky lol,you young pup

Bazza

[Peter99]

I am glad I didn't go, otherwise I would be a friggin old fart

What do you mean "otherwise"?

[Dave Moore]

Bugger!! Has it closed?? I was hoping to get down there at some stage!

Regards,

Dave

[Bazza]

Bugger!! Has it closed?? I was hoping to get down there at some stage!

Regards,

Dave

Just missed it by nearly 40 years Dave lol

[Dave Moore]

Just missed it by nearly 40 years Dave lol

Damn! Best get down to The Pendulum then before that disappears too!

Regards,

Dave

[Ian Seaman]

I was 14 when it closed and was head doorman !! that's why it was packed every night cos you was all bigger then me !!

unfair dismissal claim still ongoing

Ian.

[Stuart Bower]

Anyway, Classic or not, I try not to post any tune up on Facebook that I don't own a copy of myself. If people turn up at our venue on the strength of what they've already seen and heard they may be slightly disappointed that we've not got what they expected. Rest assured though that all the stuff they DO hear will be enjoyable..

[Guest gordon russell]

Bugger!! Has it closed?? I was hoping to get down there at some stage!

Regards,

Dave

Think they have a reonion in the car park...with merrygorounds dodgems and a coconut shy

[Steve G]

A bloke Im aware of on face book ,keeps posting tunes ,this is a torch classic that's a torch classic but I know he was only 14 when the torch closed its doors in 1973 ,Just makes me smile and wonder why

Bazza

Maybe his Grandad went or something.

Edited October 8, 2012 by Steve G

[Russ Vickers]

There are always folk around that claim this n that, but even those that have been around years are learning all the time - I have far more respect for those that are honest.

Please dont get me started on tall stories about records either. I was once diggin around the second hand record stalls n such in Portsmouth, when in one I met a very respected Motown collector, who had an arrangement with the local stores regarding any Motown, they would save things for him to collect next time he passed by. This particular day he asked me what I had been buying recently, I had just bought a copy of 'You Aint Sayin Nothin new' on US Motown, which at the time was a huge play all over the UK....I was gob smacked when this guy insisted in front of the store owner that he had a copy on a British Motown...I diplomatically tried to infer he might be mistaken, but was 'shouted' down by the 'expert'.....I can only assume that said collector felt the need to impress, then belittle me in front of his 'source' ?....needless to say my respect for this guy was shattered & I can never look at the guy in the same light.....a totally uneccessary lie...why ?

Best Russ

[NEV]

A bloke Im aware of on face book ,keeps posting tunes ,this is a torch classic that's a torch classic but I know he was only 14 when the torch closed its doors in 1973 ,Just makes me smile and wonder why

Bazza

Its a no win situation though .... if you did go and say you did ...you still get slagged off for mentioning it !

Or is that just to the Casino goers

Reminds me of a guy who tells people he went to Wigan ...but he would have only been about 11 or 12 when it closed ..maybe he was smuggled inside a Adidas bag

But i take your point ..its sad

[viphitman]

What do you mean "otherwise"?

:shhh: ...huh shit... I have just let one out .... bugger I am getting old

[Johnmcc]

Dr Wisney first recognised this illness now known as Wisney There Syndrome.

1 million went to The Torch for years, 2 million to Wigan and 3 million were at Wembley in '66.

[Peter99]

There are always folk around that claim this n that, but even those that have been around years are learning all the time - I have far more respect for those that are honest.

Please dont get me started on tall stories about records either. I was once diggin around the second hand record stalls n such in Portsmouth, when in one I met a very respected Motown collector, who had an arrangement with the local stores regarding any Motown, they would save things for him to collect next time he passed by. This particular day he asked me what I had been buying recently, I had just bought a copy of 'You Aint Sayin Nothin new' on US Motown, which at the time was a huge play all over the UK....I was gob smacked when this guy insisted in front of the store owner that he had a copy on a British Motown...I diplomatically tried to infer he might be mistaken, but was 'shouted' down by the 'expert'.....I can only assume that said collector felt the need to impress, then belittle me in front of his 'source' ?....needless to say my respect for this guy was shattered & I can never look at the guy in the same light.....a totally uneccessary lie...why ?

Best Russ

Name em Russ.

[viphitman]

c'mon folks who gives a flying monkey if he just posting the odd tune without claiming he was there ... but if he claims he was a wheeler get him one of those

or just SHOOT HIM DOWN

Edited October 8, 2012 by viphitman

[Russ Vickers]

Name em Russ.

It was a good 15 yrs ago mate, so best let things lie .....its always fascinated me tho why some, otherwise knowledgeable & respected people still feel the need to embelish the truth on occasion ?. Im thick as mince when it comes to tunes & always extremely happy to hear a good yarn about a record, especially if I learn something....

Best Russ

[Len]

...Or they choose NOT to discuss their lack of 'history', thus creating a completely false persona. There's nothing worse than someone pretending to be something they're not - As stated earlier, I have respect for honesty

If anyone ever goes on and on about The Wheel in a way that nothing else has happened since (You know the types) I always say "What the invention of? - Chr*st you are old!"Â - Just to let it be known that I'm not hanging onto every word they're saying...

All the best,

Len

Edited October 10, 2012 by LEN

[Linda4me]

It was a good 15 yrs ago mate, so best let things lie .....its always fascinated me tho why some, otherwise knowledgeable & respected people still feel the need to embelish the truth on occasion ?. Im thick as mince when it comes to tunes & always extremely happy to hear a good yarn about a record, especially if I learn something....

Best Russ

Bang on,the scene is full of bullshitters anyway and if i knew the bloke and was really bothered i'd challenge him but does it really matter

[Stuart Bower]

Well, this sort of thing has been going on for years in the scene. Bullshit. Some people feel the need to be respected and to impress, To be thought of as the 'big men/women on the scene'. Amazingly been everywhere, Had every big record and (amazingly) sold them, Probably been in the scene for some time as just another face in the crowd but feel the need to finally have at least SOME recogition for the time they've put in? Or were they around at the time but wish they HAD been there? Who knows?

[NEV]

Sometimes Fibs can be good though ... especially the stories about only so many copies of a 45 in existence because ????

[Len]

Im thick as mince when it comes to tunes....

Best Russ

Yup, I can vouch for that

All the best,

Len ‘The Knowledge’ Dopson - Otherwise known as the ‘Andy Rix of The Modern Soul Scene’ ……Honestly, I am…..Well I’ve been to ‘Essence’……Once……

Edited October 10, 2012 by LEN

[Len]

Well, this sort of thing has been going on for years in the scene. Bullshit. Some people feel the need to be respected and to impress, To be thought of as the 'big men/women on the scene'. Amazingly been everywhere, Had every big record and (amazingly) sold them, Probably been in the scene for some time as just another face in the crowd but feel the need to finally have at least SOME recogition for the time they've put in? Or were they around at the time but wish they HAD been there? Who knows?

Lots of folk around now days that never 'did it' in the first place - The thing is IT DOESN'T MATTER! Just be HONEST!

Len (Founder of The 100 Club)......

[Stuart Bower]

Len (Founder of The 100 Club)......

[Guest gordon russell]

Dr Wisney first recognised this illness now known as Wisney There Syndrome.

1 million went to The Torch for years, 2 million to Wigan and 3 million were at Wembley in '66.

john......come on mate.....we all know wigan had over 5 million members

[Russ Vickers]

Bang on,the scene is full of bullshitters anyway and if i knew the bloke and was really bothered i'd challenge him but does it really matter

Thats the point, it doesnt matter at all & no one thinks any worst or better of you for having been there or owned that, but they may change thier opinion of people if they were telling porkies for no particular reason....

Russ

[Guest mickeyfish58]

I am glad I didn't go, otherwise I would be a friggin old fart

i didnt go but i am still a frigging old fart !!=54 end of month!!

[KevH]

A bloke Im aware of on face book ,keeps posting tunes ,this is a torch classic that's a torch classic but I know he was only 14 when the torch closed its doors in 1973 ,Just makes me smile and wonder why

Bazza

Does he claim to have been? Maybe he's a re-union chap.That Facebook eh.!!

[Ric-tic]

There are always folk around that claim this n that, but even those that have been around years are learning all the time - I have far more respect for those that are honest.

Please dont get me started on tall stories about records either. I was once diggin around the second hand record stalls n such in Portsmouth, when in one I met a very respected Motown collector, who had an arrangement with the local stores regarding any Motown, they would save things for him to collect next time he passed by. This particular day he asked me what I had been buying recently, I had just bought a copy of 'You Aint Sayin Nothin new' on US Motown, which at the time was a huge play all over the UK....I was gob smacked when this guy insisted in front of the store owner that he had a copy on a British Motown...I diplomatically tried to infer he might be mistaken, but was 'shouted' down by the 'expert'.....I can only assume that said collector felt the need to impress, then belittle me in front of his 'source' ?....needless to say my respect for this guy was shattered & I can never look at the guy in the same light.....a totally uneccessary lie...why ?

Best Russ

theres some funny people around

a week ago i saw replies online i think it was the dail mail after an article on betty lavettes new book, the first repy was from an american he said who is this woman? who has ever heard of her? and who is going to buy this book? believe me i know my motown music and betty lavette was no motown artist!

[Staceys Dad]

you are all welcome at my 21st birthday next month have got all my mates comming down from the twisted wheel and the golden torch and wigan casino and the pendulum and the va va and blackpool mecca . ..also got BERRY GORDY jrn flying over to dj a motown spot and he will be giving me a copy of frank wilson do i love you for my birthday. ..now how good a night is that gonna be....will post further details soon..... ....and no i am not lying honest.....

[Rob Wigley]

Had to laugh at this, there's a picture of me on Facebook at a venue and I can't remember where I am ! Must have been the Torch !!

[wiganelli]

Theres plenty out there who went here there and everywhere !!!!.im 54 didnt go torch or cats wish i had, but just missed out with a year or two,still i went wigan early days cant take that from me,dont know were all the others were hidding in there cause i never see em,would'nt bother telling fibs you get catched out.

[Sharon Cooper]

Aup Bazza! Hope you're doing ok? I had to smile when I read your post because its rife isn't it? People claiming to have been here , there and everywhere, being DJs for God knows how long, being mates with certain people because they think it gives them some credence in the eyes of others etc etc... I just think they must be very very sad people with no history to their boring lives that they have to make up stories to big themselves up. Just off topic a bit but someone I have known for many many years has acquired a completely different past to the one I know he had even gaining a degree along the way when I know he never went near a university or could have actually ever completed one!!! Some people just make you laugh!!

Take Care Bazza - hope to see you around soon : Perhaps at Hollingwood?

Sharon

X

[grant]

sadly i cant lie about NOT going wigan and being too young coz i stuck out like a sore thumb in those feckin 'Prince & Princess' bags but can brag far too young for the torch or twisted weal

Edited October 9, 2012 by grant

[Guest turntableterra]

dont get me started on this one............please just dont. the best one is, " I HAD ALL THESE RECORDS AND I SOLD THEM, ALL ORIGINALS TOO"

[grant]

dont get me started on this one............please just dont. the best one is, " I HAD ALL THESE RECORDS AND I SOLD THEM, ALL ORIGINALS TOO"

I know you did mate I bought em all off you then sold them too

[Len]

Its a no win situation though .... if you did go and say you did ...you still get slagged off for mentioning it !

Or is that just to the Casino goers

Reminds me of a guy who tells people he went to Wigan ...but he would have only been about 11 or 12 when it closed ..maybe he was smuggled inside a Adidas bag

But i take your point ..its sad

Nothing wrong with mentioning The Casino, it's PART of the tapestry of the scene......But there is something very wrong with people who did go that think that makes them superior to people who didn't. I once asked an 'Ol Boy' about his 'beginings' as I was interested in his take on the early days, because he had 'an edge'.....he replied, "That was then Lenny, what's now is important" - Wow, cool or what?! - My respect for this individual is now sky high.

All the best,

Len.

Edited October 9, 2012 by LEN

[Len]

Thats the point, it doesnt matter at all & no one thinks any worst or better of you for having been there or owned that, but they may change thier opinion of people if they were telling porkies for no particular reason....

Russ

Sadly Russ, not everyone sees through these people so it works to some degree, it must somehow make them feel better about themselves. To be fare though, this is another thing that is rife in all walks of life. I often hear people telling stories about some situation or other that I was at and I have to bite my lip for it being so far from the truth. I don't challenge, simply because the 'story' is entertaining, so why 'break' the nice atmosphere? I'm sure some of you 80's Football 'Hoodlums' have seen this happen many times.

A famous person - David Nivon, was known as a b*llshitter (Story teller) but was so entertaining, everyone loved him for it. I think the subtle difference is, some exaggerate to make their story more entertaining, whereas others exaggerate to impress - that's where for me, it falls flat and I stop listening.

Len.

Edited October 9, 2012 by LEN