Guest Johnny Mack Posted January 13, 2006 Posted January 13, 2006 Quite a number of the artists we know and love ended up frustrated in their recording contracts for one reason or another and to avoid the possibility of legal action for breach of contract, ended up recording for other labels under, either an alias, pseudonym, or in many cases (for female artists) their maiden name. In addition there are a number of female northern recordings where the artist went on to fame and fortune under their married name, but leaving in their footprints some super soul tracks which are only known and appreciated by the northern scene. I know that many of you folks out there are aware of the real identity of these artists, but I know that a lot of newcomers are not necessarily aware. I for one have been surprised on occasions to discover the real identity of the artists on some of these tracks. To get the ball rolling, I'll throw a couple into the maiden name category and a couple into the contract name change category........................and leave you learned souls to carry on the thread : Dottie Cambridge (Cry your eyes out - MGM) = Dorothy Moore Deniece Chandler (Mama I wished I stayed at home - Lock) = Deniece Williams Dede Schwartz - Funny how we change places - RCA = Dee Dee Warwick (under contract with Private Stock) Marva W Taylor - Nothing I'd rather be.... - Forte = Marva Whitney (under contract with King) Let's see what comes out of this one Have a good day y'all John
Gasher Posted January 13, 2006 Posted January 13, 2006 Heard somwhere that Al Apollo on CUB "IM Walking" was Ray Pollard ? sounds plausibale.
steve z Posted January 13, 2006 Posted January 13, 2006 Heard somwhere that Al Apollo on CUB "IM Walking" was Ray Pollard ? sounds plausibale. Hi Ritchie ,heard the same Was it from you Steve
Guest enchantedrythm Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 sandra spottiswood eivets rednow lenny gamble
Guest Paul Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 I think the most interesting cases are the songwriters, many of whom used several different names - either to fool a publisher who had an exclusive contract on them or to fool the tax man. George Kerr, for example, sometimes credited songs to Wesaline Kerr (his wife) whose maiden name was Hopson. On "I Have Faith In You" George was credited as Wesaline Hopson and this enabled him to sell his share of that particular song to a different publisher. At the time he may well have been in debt to another publisher who had paid him for songs in advance. There's usually a good reason for these things ...and it usually involves money. Paul Mooney
Larsc Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 (edited) Marva W Taylor - Nothing I'd rather be.... - Forte = Marva Whitney (under contract with King) At the time she was married to Ellis Taylor. Legend goes she got in trouble using her married name and that's why the record was rereleased as M-W-T Express. Edited January 14, 2006 by LarsC
Pete S Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 To get the ball rolling, I'll throw a couple into the maiden name category and a couple into the contract name change category........................and leave you learned souls to carry on the thread : Dottie Cambridge (Cry your eyes out - MGM) = Dorothy Moore Where did you get that info from? She was with The Poppies on Epic when that record was released - different Dorothy Moore?
Soulsmith Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 Where did you get that info from? She was with The Poppies on Epic when that record was released - different Dorothy Moore? Morning Pete & anyone else out there. Its probably be done before, but I was wondering if Frankie & Johnny recorded under a different name?
Pete S Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 Morning Pete & anyone else out there. Its probably be done before, but I was wondering if Frankie & Johnny recorded under a different name? Johnny Curtis & Maggie Bell
okehgaz Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 Johnny Curtis & Maggie Bell End up looking a complete burk here but i'll ask any way, lets face it it won't be the first (or last) time! Not the same Maggie Bell that was lead singer with Stone the Crows is it?
Pete S Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 End up looking a complete burk here but i'll ask any way, lets face it it won't be the first (or last) time! Not the same Maggie Bell that was lead singer with Stone the Crows is it? Yes, that's her...
Gasher Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 Hi Ritchie ,heard the same Was it from you Steve Hi Steve...could have been me mate. .trying to remember who I got it off was it you??
TheBigO Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 click here Can I just point out that Bobby Vee went to school with my dad and is a good friend of his - useless I know but wanted to mention it - oh and his version of Virgina B's Northern anthem is rather good!
Guest Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 Has Frankie And Johnny's I.D. been confirmed 100% Pete? I heard a live BBC recording of them doing the song last year btw. Kendra Spotswood rather than "Sandra" - also Kenni Woods ("Can He Take A Hint"). The Drapers "Your Love Has Gone Away" is actually The Drifters - Johnny Moore on lead I believe. Gone blank suddenly !
asboannie Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 'Simon White' date='Jan 14 2006, 02:18 PM' Kendra Spotswood rather than "Sandra" - also Kenni Woods ("Can He Take A Hint").
Pete S Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 Has Frankie And Johnny's I.D. been confirmed 100% Pete? I heard a live BBC recording of them doing the song last year btw. Kendra Spotswood rather than "Sandra" - also Kenni Woods ("Can He Take A Hint"). The Drapers "Your Love Has Gone Away" is actually The Drifters - Johnny Moore on lead I believe. Gone blank suddenly ! Maggie Bell's ID was confirmed years ago, in the late 70's, and I think it was me who discovered who Johnny was on a press release for a Johnny Curtis solo 45 where it mentions he was part of the duo. You serious about the BBC recording, where on earth did that come from???
Guest Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 https://www.spectropop.com/SandiSheldon/index.htm Well worth a look ! Abslutely true Pete on Frankie And Johnny - it's BBC Radio (sound only) session and someone at a record company played it to me. I don't have a copy unfortunately and they wouldn't let me have one. I knew it was confrimed as Maggie Bell but for some reason had it in my head that the male vocalist was unconfirmed. Great stuff !
Platters 81 Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 didnt Aaron Neville use his mothers name "Naomi Neville" on writing credits?
Pete S Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 didnt Aaron Neville use his mothers name "Naomi Neville" on writing credits? No, Naoimi Neville is Alan Toussaint (I think)
Geordiejohnson Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 Two Pseudonyms from one person given courtesy by Mr Bri Pinches Rules - Gil Blanding Virgil Henry - you aint saying nothing new Real Name - Virgil Henry Blanding Geeoooordie
pikeys dog Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 Apparently Eddie Bishop also recorded "My Old Mans A Dustman" under the assumed name of Dogshit O'Reilly.... Consensus is that it's equally as Soulful as his dreadful version of "Call Me" WOOF!
Guest Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 Brendetta Davis on Liberty, apparently may have been Brenda Holloway.
Guest Johnny Mack Posted January 15, 2006 Posted January 15, 2006 Where did you get that info from? She was with The Poppies on Epic when that record was released - different Dorothy Moore? Pete, Dorothy Moore had 2 releases on ABC back in 1965, as the Dollets/ Dorothy Moore and the Dollets She met Petsye McCune and Rosemary Taylor whilst at Jackson State University and singing background at a recording studio. The Poppies were formed in 1966 and had a string of 45's and an album release for Billy Sherrell at Epic records. She released 2 45's in 1967 for MGM under the Dottie Cambridge guise Additionally, she is reputed to have released a 45 for Jamie in 1968 as Dorothy and the Hesitations entitled "Dont set me up for the kill" Her popularity grew in the 70's and she has recorded for a long list of labels, including Avon, Avco, GSF, Chimneyville,Malaco, Handshake, Street King, Prelude, Volt and TK. She presently releases under her own label - Farish Street. Take care John
Pete S Posted January 15, 2006 Posted January 15, 2006 Pete, Dorothy Moore had 2 releases on ABC back in 1965, as the Dollets/ Dorothy Moore and the Dollets She met Petsye McCune and Rosemary Taylor whilst at Jackson State University and singing background at a recording studio. The Poppies were formed in 1966 and had a string of 45's and an album release for Billy Sherrell at Epic records. She released 2 45's in 1967 for MGM under the Dottie Cambridge guise Additionally, she is reputed to have released a 45 for Jamie in 1968 as Dorothy and the Hesitations entitled "Dont set me up for the kill" Her popularity grew in the 70's and she has recorded for a long list of labels, including Avon, Avco, GSF, Chimneyville,Malaco, Handshake, Street King, Prelude, Volt and TK. She presently releases under her own label - Farish Street. Take care John John - note that she mentions none of this on her own website and it's not mentioned in any of her biographies!
Guest Johnny Mack Posted January 15, 2006 Posted January 15, 2006 John - note that she mentions none of this on her own website and it's not mentioned in any of her biographies! Pete, Agreed - the website and biographies seem to concentrate on her album releases and don't provide a lot of detail on the sixties period outside of involvment in the Poppies. It's not surprising that she omits to credit the Dottie C recordings as her own - guess that you're not going to own up in the media to breaching your contract with a major recording company ! I'd always understood that Dottie C was in fact Moore and a quick look in Kev Roberts Top 500 book ratifies this. www.soulfulkindamusic.com has a good listing of Dorothy Moore releases. I was surprised to find that Dorothy & Hesitations is probably Dorothy Moore. I actually have a copy of that 45 ! We live and learn................ Take care John
Stuart Bower Posted January 15, 2006 Posted January 15, 2006 Quite a number of the artists we know and love ended up frustrated in their recording contracts for one reason or another and to avoid the possibility of legal action for breach of contract, ended up recording for other labels under, either an alias, pseudonym, or in many cases (for female artists) their maiden name. In addition there are a number of female northern recordings where the artist went on to fame and fortune under their married name, but leaving in their footprints some super soul tracks which are only known and appreciated by the northern scene. I know that many of you folks out there are aware of the real identity of these artists, but I know that a lot of newcomers are not necessarily aware. I for one have been surprised on occasions to discover the real identity of the artists on some of these tracks. To get the ball rolling, I'll throw a couple into the maiden name category and a couple into the contract name change category........................and leave you learned souls to carry on the thread : Dottie Cambridge (Cry your eyes out - MGM) = Dorothy Moore Deniece Chandler (Mama I wished I stayed at home - Lock) = Deniece Williams Dede Schwartz - Funny how we change places - RCA = Dee Dee Warwick (under contract with Private Stock) Marva W Taylor - Nothing I'd rather be.... - Forte = Marva Whitney (under contract with King) Let's see what comes out of this one Have a good day y'all John Try THIS - Bob Brady & The Con Chords - Everybody`s Going To The Love In/ More,More More of Your Love/Goodbye Baby/Illusion/Love Is The Master/ Savin` All My Love For You....Chariot = William "Smokey" Robinson (under contract with TAMLA) (the vocal sounds NOTHING like the OTHER Bob Brady,the name is sheer coincidence-Mr Robinson had no idea that there was ANOTHER Bob Brady!)
Pete S Posted January 15, 2006 Posted January 15, 2006 Try THIS - Bob Brady & The Con Chords - Everybody`s Going To The Love In/ More,More More of Your Love/Goodbye Baby/Illusion/Love Is The Master/ Savin` All My Love For You....Chariot = William "Smokey" Robinson (under contract with TAMLA) (the vocal sounds NOTHING like the OTHER Bob Brady,the name is sheer coincidence-Mr Robinson had no idea that there was ANOTHER Bob Brady!)
Guest enchantedrythm Posted January 18, 2006 Posted January 18, 2006 Has Frankie And Johnny's I.D. been confirmed 100% Pete? I heard a live BBC recording of them doing the song last year btw. Kendra Spotswood rather than "Sandra" - also Kenni Woods ("Can He Take A Hint"). The Drapers "Your Love Has Gone Away" is actually The Drifters - Johnny Moore on lead I believe. Gone blank suddenly ! spotswood,spootiswood is also a well known okeh recording artist - want me,need you..........i feel, not 100%
Ged Parker Posted January 18, 2006 Posted January 18, 2006 Quite a number of the artists we know and love ended up frustrated in their recording contracts for one reason or another and to avoid the possibility of legal action for breach of contract, ended up recording for other labels under, either an alias, pseudonym, or in many cases (for female artists) their maiden name. In addition there are a number of female northern recordings where the artist went on to fame and fortune under their married name, but leaving in their footprints some super soul tracks which are only known and appreciated by the northern scene. I know that many of you folks out there are aware of the real identity of these artists, but I know that a lot of newcomers are not necessarily aware. I for one have been surprised on occasions to discover the real identity of the artists on some of these tracks. To get the ball rolling, I'll throw a couple into the maiden name category and a couple into the contract name change category........................and leave you learned souls to carry on the thread : Dottie Cambridge (Cry your eyes out - MGM) = Dorothy Moore Deniece Chandler (Mama I wished I stayed at home - Lock) = Deniece Williams Dede Schwartz - Funny how we change places - RCA = Dee Dee Warwick (under contract with Private Stock) Marva W Taylor - Nothing I'd rather be.... - Forte = Marva Whitney (under contract with King) Let's see what comes out of this one Have a good day y'all John Andrea Davis - You Gave me Soul and Lonely Girl on Chess = Minnie Riperton. She took that name in honour of her mentor Billy Davis aparently
Garethx Posted January 18, 2006 Posted January 18, 2006 (edited) Tommy Tate recorded a couple of records under pseudonyms: Tommy Yates on Verve, and Andy Chapman "Happy Is The Man" on Atco. The reverse of the Atco disc is not TT, but apparently blue-eyed soulman Ben Atkins of Memphis Nomads on Youngstown fame. Edited January 18, 2006 by garethx
Guest Netspeaky Posted January 18, 2006 Posted January 18, 2006 (edited) Quite a number of the artists we know and love ended up frustrated in their recording contracts for one reason or another and to avoid the possibility of legal action for breach of contract, ended up recording for other labels under, either an alias, pseudonym, or in many cases (for female artists) their maiden name. In addition there are a number of female northern recordings where the artist went on to fame and fortune under their married name, but leaving in their footprints some super soul tracks which are only known and appreciated by the northern scene. I know that many of you folks out there are aware of the real identity of these artists, but I know that a lot of newcomers are not necessarily aware. I for one have been surprised on occasions to discover the real identity of the artists on some of these tracks. To get the ball rolling, I'll throw a couple into the maiden name category and a couple into the contract name change category........................and leave you learned souls to carry on the thread : Dottie Cambridge (Cry your eyes out - MGM) = Dorothy Moore Deniece Chandler (Mama I wished I stayed at home - Lock) = Deniece Williams Dede Schwartz - Funny how we change places - RCA = Dee Dee Warwick (under contract with Private Stock) Marva W Taylor - Nothing I'd rather be.... - Forte = Marva Whitney (under contract with King) Let's see what comes out of this one Have a good day y'all JohnIf I remember correctly wasn't Dottie Cambridge a white country & western singer, Dorothy Moore was a member of the Poppies - https://www.bluescritic.com/DorothyMooreInterview.html Edited January 18, 2006 by Netspeaky
Alan T Posted January 28, 2006 Posted January 28, 2006 Two Pseudonyms from one person given courtesy by Mr Bri Pinches Rules - Gil Blanding Virgil Henry - you aint saying nothing new Real Name - Virgil Henry Blanding Geeoooordie Virgil Blanding aka Gil Blanding and Virgil Henry. Changed his name in tribute to his brother Henry Arthur Blanding who died in the vietnam war. Tomo
Guest Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 Doris Willingham "You Cant Do That" is of course Doris Duke.
BrianB Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 If I remember correctly wasn't Dottie Cambridge a white country & western singer, Dorothy Moore was a member of the Poppies - https://www.bluescritic.com/DorothyMooreInterview.html Are you thinking of Barbara Mills of QOF fame?
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