Kjw Posted September 18, 2012 Posted September 18, 2012 Is the one below an original promo I've seen the other promo with the horizontal lines across and I'm sure that one was copied / bootlegged If there are originals of each design - why the difference - is it down to different pressing locations or a second run with alternative labels
Kris Holmes Posted September 18, 2012 Posted September 18, 2012 that is the second East Coast promo press, still regarded as an original. and yes to locations and 2nd run alt labels.
45cellar Posted September 18, 2012 Posted September 18, 2012 This Original Variation was copied but on Red Paper.
Dean Posted September 18, 2012 Posted September 18, 2012 This Original Variation was copied but on Red Paper. A thing of beauty, looks superb.
Pete S Posted September 18, 2012 Posted September 18, 2012 Is the one below an original promo I've seen the other promo with the horizontal lines across and I'm sure that one was copied / bootlegged If there are originals of each design - why the difference - is it down to different pressing locations or a second run with alternative labels There's no boot of a white demo with lines, thats a West Coast original demo, the one above is the East Coast vinyl press, both are original 1
Kjw Posted September 18, 2012 Author Posted September 18, 2012 There's no boot of a white demo with lines, thats a West Coast original demo, the one above is the East Coast vinyl press, both are original Steve Jeffries has one on Ebay as a buy it now at $50 and describes it as a re-issue or something like that as it has a five figure matrix missing
Kjw Posted September 18, 2012 Author Posted September 18, 2012 This Original Variation was copied but on Red Paper. So are there 3 different original promos then - the one I've posted at the top is slightly different
Prophonics 2029 Posted September 18, 2012 Posted September 18, 2012 Pat Brady had a Canadian Capitol issue Come Go With Me. Talking of Capitol there is an optical illusion with these discs. I put one on the platter, turn the power on, cue the needle and look at the needle, in the corner of my eye the records label colours shift from the normal yellow & red and as I peek at the label they shift back to normal.
45cellar Posted September 18, 2012 Posted September 18, 2012 So are there 3 different original promos then - the one I've posted at the top is slightly different This one is Vinyl with correct Deadwax on Soul Bowl list as Thicker Vinyl press. Should still have the list somewhere. Not sure which pressing plant. It's different Variation to the East or West Coast Design as described above.
Pete S Posted September 18, 2012 Posted September 18, 2012 Steve Jeffries has one on Ebay as a buy it now at $50 and describes it as a re-issue or something like that as it has a five figure matrix missing Yep thats a pressing alright, you know what, I have never seen that in nearly 40 years of collecting, so my apologies for getting that wrong. I've seen black, blue, purple, red, never seen white.
paultp Posted September 18, 2012 Posted September 18, 2012 Pat Brady had a Canadian Capitol issue Come Go With Me. Talking of Capitol there is an optical illusion with these discs. I put one on the platter, turn the power on, cue the needle and look at the needle, in the corner of my eye the records label colours shift from the normal yellow & red and as I peek at the label they shift back to normal. Boots will do free eye tests 1
Robbk Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 This Original Variation was copied but on Red Paper. This pressing plant variation looks like the Dart Record Sales Distribution Co.'s pressings and label font. that was Art Sheriden and Ewart Abner's distribution company, that distributed VJ and its family of labels and distributed labels in The Midwest and South. 1
45cellar Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 This pressing plant variation looks like the Dart Record Sales Distribution Co.'s pressings and label font. that was Art Sheriden and Ewart Abner's distribution company, that distributed VJ and its family of labels and distributed labels in The Midwest and South. Thanks for Information on this.
Ez Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) Apologies I know this topic has been done ad nauseum, but would this be a west coast vinyl monarch promo original? Did they have a delta or did they just have the circled MR? thanks https://www.ebay.com/itm/222470843591?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Edited April 14, 2017 by ez
Robbk Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, ez said: Apologies I know this topic has been done ad nauseum, but would this be a west coast vinyl monarch promo original? Did they have a delta or did they just have the circled MR? thanks https://www.ebay.com/itm/222470843591?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT I lived in Los Angeles most of each year from 1966-1972, and was looking through hundreds of thousands of 45s then, at least 2 days a week. I saw hundreds of copies of Champion records. The regular black stock issues and white DJs that were pressed at Monarch had the label font as shown on the scan of my personal copy (bought in 1966) below. I've seen that variety from your link. And it might well be on polystyrene. But, I'm pretty sure it wasn't pressed at Monarch. I think that one was sold somewhere in The South or Southeast, or possibly, a different Midwestern issue from that of Dart. But I really don't know. It is legitimate, as I'm sure I saw that no later than the later mid '60s. At that time, I was making record hunting trips across USA and Canada each year. It would be nice to know what is etched in the trail to be sure. Edited April 14, 2017 by RobbK
Tlscapital Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 Monarch pressing plant, Los Angeles ARP pressing plant, Michigan Terre Haute pressing plant ?, Philadelphia
Robbk Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 10 hours ago, tlscapital said: Monarch pressing plant, Los Angeles ARP pressing plant, Michigan Terre Haute pressing plant ?, Philadelphia Terre Haute is in northwest Indiana. That issue was distributed all over The Midwest and South. The ARP issue must have been a specially-needed additional issue, probably for Michigan and perhaps the upper Midwest. I saw many of both in the Chicago/Milwaukee and Detroit areas. 1
paultp Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 I have this one on eBay at the moment, it has a monarch delta of 99069, pretty sure it's a boot
The Yank Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 The delta # would go to a record pressed in either February or March of 1976,
Robbk Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 My original, which I bought in early 1966, has 56960-x from the Monarch pressing period of the beginning of November, 1965. So, the 990 # is definitely a boot. +***/ /+
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