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Northernsoul Fisting?

Has the Northernsoul scene spiralled into a late night drinking club ?

I have been hearing of fighting at Allnighters of the recent months with the blame landing on drunken people, is this true?

Have we entered into a new era?

Have heard the same, and seen 2/3 fights this year, won't name the venues as I don't think it's relevant. Been coming for at least 10 years Si, as the scene has become more social orientated than dance, can't see how it would go any other way :(

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Have heard the same, and seen 2/3 fights this year, won't name the venues as I don't think it's relevant. Been coming for at least 10 years Si, as the scene has become more social orientated than dance, can't see how it would go any other way :(

Really!? I'm amazed.

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Joe Frazier - First Round Knockout

Major Lance - Don't Fight It

Billy Thompson - Black Eyed Girl

Willie Mitchell - The Champion

....anymore?

Mitch Ryder/Detroit Wheels..You Get Your Kicks.

Linda Jones.You Hit Me Like TNT

The Nights Love Knocks You Down Wrighty.

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The rise of the pisshead?well a recent thread concerning gear,speed and the northern scene has seen more than a couple of pro pisshead postings,one person stating he often turns up at all nighters well pissed,not saying he would be of the baroom blitz brigade in fact from his other postings I would say definately not.What though with licsenced bars at all nighters(unheard off in my day,starting era)what can you expect ,when pissheads move in more pissheads soon will follow as news of the late night drink! with women dancing on their own just waiting for a bloke to stagger over and dance with because all them other blokes are dancing on their own them women will be "gaggibg for real men(for real men read pissedup louts)to pull em! spreads among the local inebriated brigade.

As we all know bunches of drunks will always find someone to fight even those nearest and dearest to them,how many "yus ma bestest eva pal yush is",ended up only minutes later being severly beaten to a pulp by the speaker of those words of endearment.I had read quite a bit of condemnation about gear,amphetamines that is at all nighters both of old and now, on the forums various threads but like it or not that very same drug use was one of the combining factors that made our scene such a great one.Sure there was violence at times and an edgy atmosphere that edginess adding not detracting but the fact pissheads were not welcomed allowed the cameradie and friendships to develop over the years whereas the demon drink would not imo allowed such to happen.Well if it goes to a majority non stimulant use and heavy pisshead contingement with all that that entails including the drunken brawls where would that leave "our thing",all nighter wise! dead in the water or should I say ocean of piss perhaps?.

Will it be a case of "they are camped acroos the other side of the tiber,the raids and forays into the city only increase in frequency will they continue till rome herself falls in ruins?

There were a number of cures of the short sharp shock variety back in the day for obnoxious agressive pissheads who intruded into the all nighter,those various cures were known as

Larry

Cog

Snotty

Wilky

Fiat

Mr Day and the manchestder contingement

along with many others from a click to a clarkie with plenty more combination treatment patterns that would combine to cleanse an unwanted virus before it could spread,all done free of chargeAll types of interventions from a mild beating to a hospitilization dependent on the extent of obnoxiousness exhibited by the patient(violent pisshead)The main policy being to stop them before they get started..

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My wife was on the dancefloor some months ago when a fight broke out behind her and she ended up recieving a blow to the face which resulted in a swollen nose and bruising to her eyes. I won't name the guy responsible but he is known for being a nuisance on the dancefloor when trying to dance (especially in the North -East), let's just say that revenge will be sweet. We have now stopped attending any venues within the North-East area due to my wife not wanting to see the idiot in question.

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Guest welshruss

This is why me and my misses have virtually stopped going out these days...We tend to be very selective with our venues now.

In fact the last NS night we went to i had a sales box,and some bloke (pissed) claimed all the 45s in my box were his ! and that i,d nicked them off him ! ffs...so he gathers all his very brave mates to confront me (and my wife,phew they were brave men)...but backed down after some quite heated discussion..

needless to say,we wont be going back.

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My wife was on the dancefloor some months ago when a fight broke out behind her and she ended up recieving a blow to the face which resulted in a swollen nose and bruising to her eyes. I won't name the guy responsible but he is known for being a nuisance on the dancefloor when trying to dance (especially in the North -East), let's just say that revenge will be sweet. We have now stopped attending any venues within the North-East area due to my wife not wanting to see the idiot in question.

Why hasnt he been barred then?hes obviously well known for it
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The rise of the pisshead?well a recent thread concerning gear,speed and the northern scene has seen more than a couple of pro pisshead postings,one person stating he often turns up at all nighters well pissed,not saying he would be of the baroom blitz brigade in fact from his other postings I would say definately not.What though with licsenced bars at all nighters(unheard off in my day,starting era)what can you expect ,when pissheads move in more pissheads soon will follow as news of the late night drink! with women dancing on their own just waiting for a bloke to stagger over and dance with because all the them other blokes are dancing on their own they will be "gaggibg for real men(for real men read pissedup louts)to pull em! spreads among the local inebriated brigade.

As we all know bunches of drunks will always find someone to fight even those nearest and dearest to them,how many "yus ma bestest eva pal yush is",ended up only minutes later being severly beaten to a pulp by the speaker of those words of endearment.I had read quite a bit of condemnation about gear,amphetamines that is at all nighters both of old and now, on the forums various threads but like it or not that very same drug use was one of the combining factors that made our scene such a great one.Sure there was violence at times and an edgy atmosphere that edginess adding not detracting but the fact pissheads were not welcomed allowed the cameradie and friendships to develop over the years whereas the demon drink would not imo allowed such to happen.Well if it goes to a majority non stimulant use and heavy pisshead contingement with all that that entails including the drunken brawls where would that leave "our thing",all nighter wise! dead in the water or should I say ocean of piss perhaps?.

Will it be a case of "they are camped acroos the other side of the tiber,the raids and forays into the city only increase in frequency will they continue till rome herself falls in ruins?

Sums it up pretty well.

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once a piss head always a piss head, whatever shape or form

also how many all niter flyers do you see advertising late bar [4am/5am] so these promoters must want people in that will drink until these hours, if we are serious about keeping drunken yobs out then please do not advertise to them that that the bar is open very late

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Venues make money on the bar.Sometimes i guess,enough to make the venue a profit.As for fighting at a nighter,not seen it.

Has made me wonder though,if the fights are not just p*sshead outsiders - just clashes of personality,extra curricular activities,if you get my drift.......

I would like to add i wasn't attracted here by the title.

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Guest SteveJohnston

it should be down to the promoters to stop pissheads getting in, or asking them to leave if they start to annoy people that simple.

just take no shit off them, then ban them problem solved

:g:Mick I take it your advice about pissheads dose not apply to the Stute or family.

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At least they're not taking drugs and wetting themselves :g:

As I said on the other thread - as far as I'm concerned the widespread licensing and late night licensing of venues is the worst thing to happen to it in recent years IMO.

Dx

Mister Carne, how the devil are you!!! :)

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The rise of the pisshead?well a recent thread concerning gear,speed and the northern scene has seen more than a couple of pro pisshead postings,one person stating he often turns up at all nighters well pissed,not saying he would be of the baroom blitz brigade in fact from his other postings I would say definately not.

Manusf3a, I know you mean me (and I hold my hands up to it), but can I ask you to at least get your facts and your tenses right? It's TURNED up at niters, not turns up......I haven't been to one in over a decade, and I have no intention of doing so for the rest of my life.

However, I do appreciate that you don't see me as one of the 'bar-room blitz brigade'. I'm now a reformed church-going character - in fact, my local church does a late lock-in every Friday and Saturday night..... :yes:!

PS - apologies for any confusion in my message (now amended) with there being manus and manusf3a, both whom have contributed to the thread!

Edited by Gene-R
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Most Soul fans can go to a night/allnighter have a drink and good time without causing anyone any hassle - I don't like the idea of anyone having their night spoilt by idiots but it's mainly outsiders in my experience so as stated previously memberships might be the way forward.

Cheers

Manus ( Doherty)

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I have had the bad fortune to experience this on a couple of occasions, and the good fortune that in over 30 years of attending it has been very rare.

In each occasion i can attribute a common demoninator of the culprits being well oiled, and also not a massive aficionado of soul music as a genre (i know this for a fact as i know them)

I tend to go more for nighters now, Radcliffe etc, and Mr Bicknell's inaugral Bury one, as, even with the late bar, i think most pissheads wouldn't go out ther way to pay £10-12 to stay up all night in a venue playing music they didn't know or particularly like, and where the opposite sex aren't aprticularly interested in 'getting to grips' with them on the dancefloor.

Although I am a hippy at heart and non-confrontational, i am of a size and ability to defend myself (i hope) even though my best days are behind me, i worked the doors for a few years in the 80's and this ilk are nothing new to me, a good % of my social circuit may be classed as 'social handgrenades', they're not the crowd i socialise with (or would want to accompany me) to Soul nights/nighters.

I really hope common sense prevails, i had 7 pints at the last nighter i attended, yet would still be affable and courteous to everyone i encountered, it's the individual that has the problem, not a few pints of grog.

Sorry to hear these reports, hope they remain the exception, and that the individuals can be 'locally banned' - they donlt sound like the sort who would travel 100+ miles to a venue, so hopefully will soon be eradicated.

Thanks for taking the time to read, not many subjects get me animated enough to post, but this one did.....

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Manusf3a, I know you mean me (and I hold my hands up to it), but can I ask you to at least get your facts and your tenses right? It's TURNED up at niters, not turns up......I haven't been to one in over a decade, and I have no intention of doing so for the rest of my life.

However, I do appreciate that you don't see me as one of the 'bar-room blitz brigade'. I'm now a reformed church-going character - in fact, my local church does a late lock-in every Friday and Saturday night..... :yes:!

PS - apologies for any confusion in my message (now amended) with there being manus and manusf3a, both whom have contributed to the thread!

No need to apologise Ive read some of your other postings and know youre into the music by them I just some how never had you down as a bully push em about and start on em type,Dont know what youve reformed from but hope you are haveing a good time whatever.manus
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