Pete S Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Mick Smith had a M- copy for sale £800 He doesn't want to pay top dollar Bob Mick was pushing a bit anyway...
Pk 22dj Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 (edited) Your quite right, let's be honest romantically to me it's worth more than most people, some think it's crap and so on. To me it's a £500 - £600 record tops as there are hundreds out there, we must have a hundred in Stockport. Can't get anyone to sell it to me though, I once turned down a cracked demo for £15 which played perfect, more fool me they say. Wigan was a cheap night out back then getting the bus from Manchester foR 4p etc, but I've paid up since ha ha Edited September 6, 2012 by pk 22dj
MrsWoodsrules Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Great tune, really loved this track in the day. Aid.
MrsWoodsrules Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 (edited) Thinking about it, this was a very slow track for the Casino at a time of ampet - 100 mph based stompers. Still real quality in my opinion, love this & a Taj Mahal track that I can't remember the title of. AId. Pete?? Edited September 6, 2012 by MrsWoodsrules
Godzilla Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 love this & a Taj Mahal track that I can't remember the title of. AId. "A lot of Love" maybe?
Guest Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Your quite right, let's be honest romantically to me it's worth more than most people, some think it's crap and so on. To me it's a £500 - £600 record tops as there are hundreds out there, we must have a hundred in Stockport. Can't get anyone to sell it to me though, I once turned down a cracked demo for £15 which played perfect, more fool me they say. Wigan was a cheap night out back then getting the bus from Manchester foR 4p etc, but I've paid up since ha ha F... Me sold my copy for £20 in the 80s, and I wouldnt pay anymore for it now !!
Steve G Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Chapter 5 - Quite possibly the best thing to come out of Barrow in many a year
Andybellwood Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Chapter 5 - Quite possibly the best thing to come out of Barrow in many a year love your 'spam can' avatar Steve 1
Steve Thomas Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 one of the scottish guys think name Zanda on here had one for sale £500 mint , maybe worth havin a look , may still have it ?
Philt Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 (edited) Chapter 5 - Quite possibly the best thing to come out of Barrow in many a year Cheeky t*at, I'm from Barrow (which may be proof positive actually). Used to go out with the singers daughter. He didn't have any lol Edited September 7, 2012 by PhilT 1
Andybellwood Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Cheeky t*at, I'm from Barrow (which may be proof positive actually). Used to go out with the singers daughter. He didn't have any lol didn't it get a later release , italian only ? under the lead singers name
Pete S Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 (edited) didn't it get a later release , italian only ? under the lead singers name Yep, Germany and Italy under the name John St John. I think I was the first person to speak to him (John Ritson) back in 1990-91(he was trying to buy a copy of their One In A Million 45) and He told me that the groups manager wanted to put out a solo single by him and change his name to John St John, he said no way and as far as he knew, nothing came of it - so the John St John single was issued without his knowledge and I have to admit I was astounded when the first one surfaced. Edited September 7, 2012 by Pete S
Steve G Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Cheeky t*at, I'm from Barrow (which may be proof positive actually). Used to go out with the singers daughter. He didn't have any lol My missus lived in Barrow as a teenager, so I do feel I am qualified to have a view on this one. Plus, unlike many people, I have actually been there :lol:
Denbo Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 My missus lived in Barrow as a teenager, so I do feel I am qualified to have a view on this one. Plus, unlike many people, I have actually been there :lol: And lived to tell the tale.
Philt Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 My missus lived in Barrow as a teenager, so I do feel I am qualified to have a view on this one. Plus, unlike many people, I have actually been there :lol: I might know here Steve; a local town for local people
Andybellwood Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 German issue: Understand the sound quality is better than the original Chapter 5 issue ?
Benji Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Understand the sound quality is better than the original Chapter 5 issue ? Never heard a Chapter 5 issue but my german copy sounds pretty good.
Pete S Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Understand the sound quality is better than the original Chapter 5 issue ? I had Italian and several UK's - can't remember there being any difference to be honest
Gene-r Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 F... Me sold my copy for £20 in the 80s, and I wouldnt pay anymore for it now !! But that was the right price for it about 28 years ago.
Steve G Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 I might know here Steve; a local town for local people Yes I'm sure you do Phil. ALthough she did manage to "escape" at a young age
Soulman Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 (edited) Don't know if he's still got it but sold mine (M- condition issue) to a certain Mr Jeffries... and it really was flawless. You could always ask.One of the most atmospheric up-tempo blue eyed soul tunes to have graced the scene IMO Steve Edited September 7, 2012 by soulman
Philt Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Yes I'm sure you do Phil. ALthough she did manage to "escape" at a young age Yes I'm sure you do Phil. ALthough she did manage to "escape" at a young age Me too mate, I caught one of those trains so boldly advertised on Barrow southbound platform: "to Preston & beyond" I kid you not. Funnily enough, used to travel to Morecambe with the lass who's dad was, as you now know, the singer and Sean Flannagan who's dad was, I believe the drummer. Chapter 5 and the A590 both great and both out of Barra
Dave Pinch Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Yep, Germany and Italy under the name John St John. I think I was the first person to speak to him (John Ritson) back in 1990-91(he was trying to buy a copy of their One In A Million 45) and He told me that the groups manager wanted to put out a solo single by him and change his name to John St John, he said no way and as far as he knew, nothing came of it - so the John St John single was issued without his knowledge and I have to admit I was astounded when the first one surfaced. does that make them bootlegs then pete if john ritson knew nothing about them...i`m only joking of course but the soul police might take a dim veiw 1
Mark Jones Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Kinda with PK....this tune is part of my NS journey over the decades for sure...it's one of those tunes I can wait for but should kinda have one in the box...but never seem to turn up for some reason. £600 tops for me for a minter!
Steve G Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Oh I am not dissing the record at all, I have a minty UK demo and seem to remember it sounded pretty good in an echoey hall in the 70s. 1
Modernsoulsucks Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 FFS!!! Sure I put somewhere in guidelines about not using Sales or Wants to discuss records. Please carry on here. ROD
MrsWoodsrules Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 Oh I am not dissing the record at all, I have a minty UK demo and seem to remember it sounded pretty good in an echoey hall in the 70s. Agree, very atmospheric in that big main hall, something a bit different from the norm of the day I'd say. Brian Rae offered one to my mate for a tenner in 79, my mate didn't bother as is wasn't a minter, mistake that me thinks. Aid.
Mace Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 But that was the right price for it about 28 years ago. Was it £20 mid 80s?....bought my demo late 80s and paid £150.....remember it well cus it was my first 3 figure record.....actually considered selling it a few years ago but couldn't do it, great tune and still love to hear it out. 1
Rich Buckley Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 I remember it on Rob Wigley's "La Beat" list as an auction item in the late 80s when I was a teenager! Pretty sure from memory the Four Tracks was another auction item on the same list. Where's Rob?! I picked up YCMI recently on that weird italian EP on the same label as the italian 7". Several tracks each side, presumably a sort of label sampler. Think Pete Smith's had one through his hands... Rich
Prophonics 2029 Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 Was it Len who git a copy for fifty f@?kin P from a charity shop.
Gene-r Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) Was it £20 mid 80s?....bought my demo late 80s and paid £150.....remember it well cus it was my first 3 figure record.....actually considered selling it a few years ago but couldn't do it, great tune and still love to hear it out. It looks like the price greatly escalated within a very short period of time. An old friend, Karl Simmonds, paid £18 for a demo of You Can't Mean It in 1984, and £20 for a demo of One In A Million both at the same time! I think it started to gain more exposure from here, and that's probably what caused the rapid hike in price. Edited September 11, 2012 by Gene-R
Pete S Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 It looks like the price greatly escalated within a very short period of time. An old friend, Karl Simmonds, paid £18 for a demo of You Can't Mean It in 1984, and £20 for a demo of One In A Million both at the same time! I think it started to gain more exposure from here, and that's probably what caused the rapid hike in price. I paid £150 for a VG one in 1992, that was my first one.
Gene-r Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 I paid £150 for a VG one in 1992, that was my first one. That would sound about right for 20 years ago, Pete.
maslar Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 Strange that in his UK Soul series in Record Collector magazine Chris Savory didn't even mention it (Part 10 CBS, January 1981). He gave a £7.00 price tag to One In A Million.
Prophonics 2029 Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) It was a big want when it was a casino spin in the 7ts. It looks like the price greatly escalated within a very short period of time. An old friend, Karl Simmonds, paid £18 for a demo of You Can't Mean It in 1984, and £20 for a demo of One In A Million both at the same time! I think it started to gain more exposure from here, and that's probably what caused the rapid hike in price. Edited September 11, 2012 by Prophonics 2029
Gene-r Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 Strange that in his UK Soul series in Record Collector magazine Chris Savory didn't even mention it (Part 10 CBS, January 1981). He gave a £7.00 price tag to One In A Million. Yes - remember that issue well and that Chris Savory's CBS soul discography was very far from complete.
Pete S Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 Yes - remember that issue well and that Chris Savory's CBS soul discography was very far from complete. He definitely shouldn't have missed that but when I was doing Beatin Rhythm I lost count of the new discoveries we found on CBS, I"m still finding them now even. This is my current favourite, IT'S NOT NORTHERN AND IT'S NOT SOUL but it's a brilliant, catchy record - give it a chance before you tell me I'm mad. It's also practically impossible to find...
Davetay Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 does that make them bootlegs then pete if john ritson knew nothing about them...i`m only joking of course but the soul police might take a dim veiw The Soul Police, might have a dim view of this being called a soul record
Pete S Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 The Soul Police, might have a dim view of this being called a soul record Aah but it's not though is it Dave - it's a NORTHERN SOUL record though....one of the best 1
Davetay Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) Aah but it's not though is it Dave - it's a NORTHERN SOUL record though....one of the best Sorry Pete, I have always disliked it. Always been one of my pet hates, along with BenZine and Garry Lewis & The Playboys. Edited September 11, 2012 by davetay
Wiganer1 Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 I PLAYED THIS AT BLACKPOOL WINTER GARDENS ON SATURDAY LAST BUT ONE RECORD - SOUNDED AWESOME
Andy Rix Posted September 11, 2012 Posted September 11, 2012 When they appeared at the Gliderdrome, in Boston, on June 13 1969 they were advertised as Chapter Five with John St John Andy
Pete S Posted September 12, 2012 Posted September 12, 2012 When they appeared at the Gliderdrome, in Boston, on June 13 1969 they were advertised as Chapter Five with John St John Andy Is that year correct Andy, he told me they split after One In A Million failed to get a release
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