Lorraine Chandler Yvonne Baker Question

[Steve G]

I might be being a bit slow here, or might have forgotten.....

But why does everyone say "I can't change" by Yvonne Baker was a 1964 release, when Lorraine Chandler who did the original didn't get it released on RCA until early 67?

Surely that puts the Junior release out to 67 as well I would have thought or am I missing something?

STeve

[Pete S]

I might be being a bit slow here, or might have forgotten.....

But why does everyone say "I can't change" by Yvonne Baker was a 1964 release, when Lorraine Chandler who did the original didn't get it released on RCA until early 67?

Surely that puts the Junior release out to 67 as well I would have thought or am I missing something?

STeve

Never heard of it being from 64 (where they still with Chess then?), sounds 65-66 and the second release of it is 67.

[Steve G]

Yes Pete, Dave Rimmer site for one puts it as 64 and a number of others do as well. I have serious doubts that it would have been before Lorraine's came out which I believe was early 67.

[Ady Croasdell]

Tricky one as the solo release is a bit of a one-off number in the Junior catalogue. Defo later than 64 as the earlier numbers are mainly 65. Another earlier number is definitely at least 67 so I'd guess it would be around then.

The one billed as the Sensations is very probably 1965 and i think that is the original version of the song and sounds earlier. The flip was the Mend The Torn Pieces that Lorraine also did for Pied Piper at the same time as I Can't Change so my feeling is now that Jack Ashford and the team were re-working the songs on Lorraine that they had first cut in Philly for RCA in Detroit/Chicago in 1967.

[Tony Smith]

Billboard from 10/04/1965 reports on Yvonne Baker & Sensations (along with Bobby Guitar Bennett) and label owner Kae Williams entering into a deal with World Artists, if that is relevant?

[Ady Croasdell]

Nope, but it all helps!

[Steve G]

Just found a Junior label listing that puts the first one as 66 and the second one as 67. That makes more sense I think? But the Junior numbering and release dates are a bit confusing - some Philly afficianado needs to sort it out

[Roburt]

Just found a Junior label listing that puts the first one as 66 and the second one as 67. That makes more sense I think? But the Junior numbering and release dates are a bit confusing - some Philly afficianado needs to sort it out

Dave Moore probably already has ... as part of his book project.

[Ady Croasdell]

Just found a Junior label listing that puts the first one as 66 and the second one as 67. That makes more sense I think? But the Junior numbering and release dates are a bit confusing - some Philly afficianado needs to sort it out

That puts it before Lorraine's still

[Guest DeeJay]

Dave Moore probably already has ... as part of his book project.

Dave Moore probably carries the listings in his head!!!!