Hammersoul Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Wondered who did it first?Both on same label D`or.Personally i think the Internationals shades it but both great tunes.Plus the flip Beautiful Philosphy is a killer. Also noticed Ray Lewis was pressed twice,Black and Orange label? Is it a east/west coast pressing thing or did it get 2 releases?I have the Black one. Clock is ticking people Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Ray Lewis is first because it has a lower catalog number (101 vs 105) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Also, both label variations were clearly printed and pressed at the same place. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Hammersoul Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) Ray Lewis is first because it has a lower catalog number (101 vs 105) Oh yea,never checked that....Doh... Thx Bob,you were sharp there fella Edited August 1, 2012 by Hammersoul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Moore Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Ray Lewis for me: Simply because it has the fantastic "Sitting At Home With My Baby" on the flip. Regards, Dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Lofthouse Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 O'Jays ? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Roburt Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Didn't the Internationals come to the UK around 1968 as the 'International Showstoppers' to pretend to be the Showstoppers (not that they knew that when they left New York). Think they came back for a 2nd tour under their own name, but the mists of time have left my hard-drive (memory) quite fragmented. Anyone know why they changed their name to the Persuaders (name clash with 2nd group; split with label & / or manager) ??? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Hammersoul Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 Ray Lewis for me: Simply because it has the fantastic "Sitting At Home With My Baby" on the flip. Regards, Dave That`s what i bought Ray Lewis for ages ago so was pleased when it turned out to be a great double sider . Any body know what year these records got released? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 according to soul harmony singles both got released in '69 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Hammersoul Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 Cheers Bob Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Arthur Fenn Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 I have an lp version by Al Thomas on a tiny label that Keb gave me some years ago, i think its great, bit more uptempo than the other versions, anyone know of it?. Al is female by the way & I'd hazard a guess at 75ish. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Lofthouse Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 according to soul harmony singles both got released in '69 So would that make the O'Jays version earlier? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Hammersoul Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 I have an lp version by Al Thomas on a tiny label that Keb gave me some years ago, i think its great, bit more uptempo than the other versions, anyone know of it?. Al is female by the way & I'd hazard a guess at 75ish. Can you post up a clip Arthur? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 So would that make the O'Jays version earlier? I'm confused, the O'Jays did too sweet to be lonely? are you thinking of I'll be sweeter tomorrow? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Alan T Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 I'm confused, the O'Jays did too sweet to be lonely? are you thinking of I'll be sweeter tomorrow? Yes but it was titled 'You're Too Sweet' Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Yes but it was titled 'You're Too Sweet' yes to the first question (the o'jays did "too sweet to be lonely")? if so, what label did "you're too sweet" come out on and when? Thanks a lot. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Alan T Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 I know it from the 'Back On Top' album on Bell (1968) 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 So would that make the O'Jays version earlier? Hi Mike, Think I'd have said O'Jays was first. Poindexter written and all that. Always thought it was the best version. Who on earth can out sing Eddie Levert? But I don't expect Wayne to agree with me, lol Sean 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 I know it from the 'Back On Top' album on Bell (1968) Yes, Alan, it was never on a 45 to my knowledge. Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Thanks for the info. I think I have that LP, that's the one with the fake audience applause dubbed on? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simon T Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Who's the female vocal version by? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Thanks for the info. I think I have that LP, that's the one with the fake audience applause dubbed on? Yes Bob. Great LP despite the phoney audience! Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Yes Bob. Great LP despite the phoney audience! Sean I haven't listened to it in many years, I look forward to listening to their version of that track (I can't at 1am without pissing off the neighbors). Thanks everyone for giving me more info. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Lofthouse Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Yes Bob. Great LP despite the phoney audience! Sean Best get the CD that has the full album sans applause! plus some nice unreleased stuff. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ill-Be-Sweeter-Tomorrow-1967-1969/dp/B000065V68/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1344017101&sr=8-1 Mike Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Best get the CD that has the full album sans applause! plus some nice unreleased stuff. https://www.amazon.co...44017101&sr=8-1 Mike Got it Mike, Got pretty much everything by the O'Jays - my fave group! :0) Also found that old Freddie North on Abet for you. PM me you address. Cheers, Sean 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Arthur Fenn Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Can you post up a clip Arthur? Hi, not done that before, i'll try get some help on how to do it, old fart that i am Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Hammersoul Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 Hi Mike, Think I'd have said O'Jays was first. Poindexter written and all that. Always thought it was the best version. Who on earth can out sing Eddie Levert? But I don't expect Wayne to agree with me, lol Sean Finally found the Ojay`s lp with that track on it in the racks.Sure it`s not from 68,self titled/Blue cover with Ojays and track listings on front cover?? The Poindexter brothers wrote some great songs. Your right Sean re Leverts vocals being the dogs,not played that track for ages,will let you know later. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
jocko Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Finally found the Ojay`s lp with that track on it in the racks.Sure it`s not from 68,self titled/Blue cover with Ojays and track listings on front cover?? The Poindexter brothers wrote some great songs. Your right Sean re Leverts vocals being the dogs,not played that track for ages,will let you know later. Thats the one I have but its a later issue, the first one is called On Top, but exactly same tracks and is from 68. I never realised until some helpful chap explained they were the same although its all on Discogs. Hope you are enjoying the Olympics mate... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Hammersoul Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 Thats the one I have but its a later issue, the first one is called On Top, but exactly same tracks and is from 68. I never realised until some helpful chap explained they were the same although its all on Discogs. Hope you are enjoying the Olympics mate... I thought it was, i just googled it and it came out in 75,oh my god i have a 2rd press .I expect to be lined up later and pelted with cabbage/rotten Apples . No i`m not .Not earning any money,very quiet out and half of London is no access now. DON`T GET ME STARTED ON THE OLYMPIC LANES Trust your giving London a wide berth ?? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Best get the CD that has the full album sans applause! plus some nice unreleased stuff. https://www.amazon.co...44017101&sr=8-1 Mike I actually have that CD, I have a huge bag of CDs that I bring to my radio show in case someone requests something or if the next DJ doesn't show up (before people flip out every other thing i play is 45s). Anyways, I opened it up a few weeks ago and the CD was cracked in half, I was pissed. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Lofthouse Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I actually have that CD, I have a huge bag of CDs that I bring to my radio show in case someone requests something or if the next DJ doesn't show up (before people flip out every other thing i play is 45s). Anyways, I opened it up a few weeks ago and the CD was cracked in half, I was pissed. If you want a CDR replacement Bob pm me and I'll send you one. Mike Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
jocko Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I thought it was, i just googled it and it came out in 75,oh my god i have a 2rd press .I expect to be lined up later and pelted with cabbage/rotten Apples . No i`m not .Not earning any money,very quiet out and half of London is no access now. DON`T GET ME STARTED ON THE OLYMPIC LANES Trust your giving London a wide berth ?? Its a legit repress mate, I atually have at least 2 and I think 3 different releases of it, althought not the first, kept buying one thinking I would find one without the studio noise but no luck! And yes avoiding London, all the consultants are all up here working for the three weeks which might explain your lack of turnover mate, the expenses gravy train is currently in Edinburgh I suspect! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 (edited) ... Edited August 8, 2012 by boba Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 (edited) If you want a CDR replacement Bob pm me and I'll send you one. Mike I really appreciate the offer -- I just finished illegally downloading it though. For law enforcement types out there, here is proof of ownership: Edited August 8, 2012 by boba 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Hammersoul Posted August 9, 2012 Author Share Posted August 9, 2012 Its a legit repress mate, I atually have at least 2 and I think 3 different releases of it, althought not the first, kept buying one thinking I would find one without the studio noise but no luck! And yes avoiding London, all the consultants are all up here working for the three weeks which might explain your lack of turnover mate, the expenses gravy train is currently in Edinburgh I suspect! I knew if it was legit cos it had a proper cover with heavy grey cardboard etc,if memory serves(still not had time to play it) there`s a lot of `live` tracks on lp.Will look out for the `68` copy.(If anyone has a copy for sale,let me know). Good news is it`s a bit better this week,think a few people are starting to creep back(apart from the city lot). Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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