5 Du-Tones: Sweet Lips White Label Matrix Numbers

[Amsterdam Russ]

I have a test pressing of this with blank white labels & matrix numbers in the dead wax that read:

3071 (and then in small letters) IRC/45. The flip says: 3092 IRC/45.

Does this correspond with genuine releases? I believe the release number for this in the OneDerful catalogue is 4828, so I would have expected this to show in the deadwax, not the numbers I've given.

Can anyone let me know if this a reissue, boot or genuine release? TIA...

[pikeys dog]

I have a test pressing of this with blank white labels & matrix numbers in the dead wax that read:

3071 (and then in small letters) IRC/45. The flip says: 3092 IRC/45.

Does this correspond with genuine releases? I believe the release number for this in the OneDerful catalogue is 4828, so I would have expected this to show in the deadwax, not the numbers I've given.

Can anyone let me know if this a reissue, boot or genuine release? TIA...

Same as my orig issue.

Believe these are the 'Masters' numbers as on the label (issue number is on the bottom of the label, but the master number is on the right above the time)

See the Liz Lands here to see what I mean:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LIZ-LANDS-DONT-SHUT-ME-OUT-ONE-DERFUL-/150860759627?pt=UK_Records&hash=item232000824b#ht_500wt_1287

Edited July 25, 2012 by pikeys dog

[Amsterdam Russ]

Brilliant! Thanks for confirming...

[Guest Gogs]

yep same as my orig issue. Isn't it amazing what you can find out on here.

[Robbk]

Yes, my original issue has the same . The 3000 series was One-derful's regular pressing number series (except when they had the odd pressing done at Columbia Midwest (Chicago/Terre Haute)-then they had the ZTSC (of course). M-Pac subsidiary also used the 3000 series, as did One-derful's Gospel subsidiary, Halo Records, and also later Leaner label, Toddlin' Town (at least the earliest releases of that label did). What is interesting, is that subsidiary, Mar-V-Lus, unlike all the others, used a 2000 series!

[Amsterdam Russ]

Thanks, both. That convinces me of the authenticity of the test pressing.

Much appreciated.

[KevH]

Did any One-der-ful records get re-issued? Always thought of it and Mar-v-lus,M-pac, as "untouched".

[Robbk]

What do you mean by "re-issued"? Their hits like "The Town I Live in" by McKinley Mitchell, "Twine Time" by Alvin Cash & Crawlers, and "Shake A Tail Feather" by The Five Du-Tones were all pressed again on their original labels after their chart runs, to take advantage of the oldies market. "The Town I Live In" was also pressed up later on Midas Records. Are you talking about post-1970 pressings?

[KevH]

Sort of Robb.The examples you give for instance.Would the re-press have diff matrix numbers?

[Robbk]

Sort of Robb.The examples you give for instance.Would the re-press have diff matrix numbers?

No, The matrix numbers were the same, when the record was re-issued by the same company. In the case of The Midas pressing of "The Town I Live In", the matrix number is different (possibly because it was pressed at a different plant, or possibly remastered.