Lenis Guess S.p.q.r. Issue V Demo Rarity

[Kegsy]

Is there much difference between the issue and thedemo of SPQR 1002

"Just Ask Me/Working For My Baby", when it comes to rarity ?.

Cheers

Kegsy

[Roburt]

Kegsy, you really should know the answer to this yourself (you being such a switched on & informed guy !!).

Frank Guida liked to exploit any opening .... as "Just Ask Me" & "Working For My Baby" were both popular in different regions (including the UK) over a number of years, he released a number of 45's that featured one or both of these tracks (more than one pressing being numbered SPQR 1002 I believe).

Don't have the definitive answer as to which 'incarnation' was the original release or even which of the many versions on 45 is the rarest, but no doubt one of the OVO-boyo's on here will know.

Edited July 21, 2012 by Roburt

[George G]

I know here in the US we see the Columbia styrene pressings on promo and stock, I think those are original from 1967/8. The stocks are plain gold. I junked this record 30 years ago (maybe at an Ohio flea market) and turned on a fair number of people who were into garage and rock onto this. I think the backing band were a local garage band, the Swinging Machine who have a 45 of their own on SPQR that looks like the original LG 45s I cited.

[Roburt]

I know here in the US we see the Columbia styrene pressings on promo and stock, I think those are original from 1967/8. The stocks are plain gold. I junked this record 30 years ago (maybe at an Ohio flea market) and turned on a fair number of people who were into garage and rock onto this. I think the backing band were a local garage band, the Swinging Machine who have a 45 of their own on SPQR that looks like the original LG 45s I cited.

George, you Yanks do mangle the English language (& Microsoft 'spell check' even spells many words incorrectly !!).

A Brit would think you had 'disposed of' / thrown away a 45 if you told him you had 'junked it' .....

... I guess you meant us to know that you bought the 45 at a flea market (a 2nd hand stall / car boot / bring & buy / charity shop to us).

Edited July 22, 2012 by Roburt

[Kegsy]

I know here in the US we see the Columbia styrene pressings on promo and stock, I think those are original from 1967/8. The stocks are plain gold.

Yes, but is the Demo that much harder to find than the issue.

Kegsy

[Guest trickbag]

twenty one issues and two demos on frenzy,so yes demos

are harder and more expensive.

roburt Don't have the definitive answer as to which 'incarnation' was the original release or even which of the many versions on 45 is the rarest,

b/side is Some womans bedroom'

.. Northern Soul Original 45 LENIS GUESS ..

JUST ASK ME

..B/W..

JUST ASK ME -instrumental

ricky

[George G]

The two copies pictured at the top (the promo and gold stock) are the originals.The 45s by other artists on SPQR from that time (Swinging Machine and WIld Things) look like those.

The Le Grand one looks like its the same vintage as the SPQR. It's a lot rarer than the SPQR, but I still think the SPQR is first. The promo is probably offered for sale less often than the stock but it's not rare. I like the "working for my baby" side more anyway.

[pikeys dog]

The Orange Legrand issue above is a completely different cut of the track - it's a 70s re-recording.

The flip on that issue is "interesting"

[TOAD]

orange spqr boot has inst on b side

[dthedrug]

HI ALL A few months ago I sold a copy of Lenis Guess - "working for my baby" - SPQR full color& gold label, differant to those above.

The record come out before "jost ask me", With 2 versions of "working for my baby" the side thats on the b side of "just ask me" and a Uptempo version of the song on the B side, although I had it for years, Mick had never seen, and wanted it, I am looking for a scan,

However I can recomend the record as 100% northern Soul, got to be rare? DAVE

[Roburt]

Dave, was that 45 also badged up as SPQR 1002 ??

You have to admire Frank Guida ... he did try to exploit every sales opportunity & so put some tracks out numerous times.

One thing about Norfolk R&B, soul releases .... lots of times just a few copies of a record would initially be pressed up. These would be sent to local DJ's & radio stns.

If there was no favourable reaction, that would be it .... no more copies were ever pressed up. If a DJ or radio stn started playing a track however, the 45 would be pressed up again ... either to send to DJ's & radio stns over a much wider geographic area (to try to get more bites & therefore playlistings) ... OR ... shock horror ... to actually get the 45 into record stores so that the public could buy copies.

[Guest trickbag]

twenty one issues and two demos on frenzy,so yes demos

are harder and more expensive.

so these two are original, the legrand is a reissue and this

is the boot or are the legrand boots as well.

ricky.