Pete S Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Answer this hoestly: do you truly know anyone who actually likes BOB WILSON - SUZY'S SERENADE. I've never met anyone who liked it! It was like when John Leach was being played at Wigan - nobody liked it!
21 Again Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Id rather listen to Bob Wilson on football focus
Guest MrC Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 A bit like Gaylord & Holliday "love where have you gone" and Nightwatch "lips to your heart" in reverse... no one liked them then, no one likes them now, but I know I was never on my own on the dancefloor....
Guest Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 i like 'love where have you gone' , and the mrs adores it. its certainly in a different class than Bob Wilson.
Guest VepT5 Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Answer this hoestly: do you truly know anyone who actually likes BOB WILSON - SUZY'S SERENADE. I've never met anyone who liked it! It was like when John Leach was being played at Wigan - nobody liked it! I always think Suzy's Serenade sounds like something talked over on the radio.
Pete S Posted April 20, 2012 Author Posted April 20, 2012 Gaylord & Holliday, Oh Dear Yes thats a shocker, they aren't singing in time to the music!
Mal C Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 yep, all three of those are truly awful... cant stand any of em.
KevH Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Gaylord - makes me want to skin up around a campfire with Peter Fonda and Jack Nicholson. Time to bring out the power tools Pete. 2
Guest Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 i just like the bit where it goes, whooooo, oooooo,oooooo, oooooo, ooooooooo, ooooooooooooooo, oooo, oooo, ooooooooohhhhhhh. ah well, i can think of worst records. QUEEN OF FOOLS!
Guest Roddy Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 i hate "Tell me what he said" Helen Shapiro and a few others !
Pete S Posted April 20, 2012 Author Posted April 20, 2012 i just like the bit where it goes, whooooo, oooooo,oooooo, oooooo, ooooooooo, ooooooooooooooo, oooo, oooo, ooooooooohhhhhhh. ah well, i can think of worst records. QUEEN OF FOOLS! Yes but you can't have that because other people like it - you have to find one that absolutely nobody likes - hence I'd have had The Carstairs!
Pete S Posted April 20, 2012 Author Posted April 20, 2012 I like Suzy's Serenade, always have. Booooooo! Another thread ruined.
Pete S Posted April 20, 2012 Author Posted April 20, 2012 i hate "Tell me what he said" Helen Shapiro and a few others ! Oh Roddy, Tell Me What He Said is one of the greatest pre-Beatles pop singles ever made. Absolutely love it to bits. Just as a pop single, it's got nothing to do with Northern Soul. 1
Guest Roddy Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 arrrgh its ben one of my most hated records ever ! Each to there own mate But I still have a soft spot for Tim Tam and the Turn ons "wait a minute" Both played back in the day but as you said nothing to do with Northern Soul
Guest Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) Deary me! The best thing about that record is the off centre label, thats the only good thing I can say about it. Edited April 20, 2012 by Guest
Rick Cooper Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Pete There's loads of records played over the years that I hate but Suzy's Serenade is definitely NOT one of them. Classic Torch sound that was just right for the time, and my younger knees. Rick
Pete S Posted April 20, 2012 Author Posted April 20, 2012 Pete There's loads of records played over the years that I hate but Suzy's Serenade is definitely NOT one of them. Classic Torch sound that was just right for the time, and my younger knees. Rick OK that's Suzy's Serenade definitely removed from the list then. Right then, what about DAWN - LOVE'S A MAGIC WORD - UNITED ARTISTS Nobody likes that one. 2
macca Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 OK that's Suzy's Serenade definitely removed from the list then. Right then, what about DAWN - LOVE'S A MAGIC WORD - UNITED ARTISTS Nobody likes that one. Didn't they have another sound played around 77?, 'baby's gone away', had it on a st.ives tape. Ginger Taylor?
KevH Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Didn't they have another sound played around 77?, 'baby's gone away', had it on a st.ives tape. Ginger Taylor? That was "Knock three times". 3
Guest allnightandy Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 It might sound better if the hole was in the middle , must be at least20mm off center LoL
KevH Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Keep pushing the Gaylord track lads.Got a 25 count box to shift.
Guest allnightandy Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Right ! this one i hated ! from Wigan's dark days
Popular Post Winnie :-) Posted April 20, 2012 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2012 Can we all agree that Cochise is woeful? 4
macca Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 I used to love the French Fries. Great atmosphere at Cleggy, Peterborough, everybody shuffling in unison. 1
macca Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) This thread is not necessarily about bad records is it? Just very unpopular ones, right? That Brian Hyland thing was godawful but loads of f***ers danced to it. Same goes for Ben Zine. Edited April 20, 2012 by macca
Guest allnightandy Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 I never heard this played out but what a piece of crap LoL
Popular Post Pep Posted April 20, 2012 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) While I'm watching the site closely for all the saddest reasons, I'd just like to add an observation or two: When finding/playing newer sounds and discoveries, perfection is a luxury DJs can ill afford, and dancefloor reaction dictates how much play and how 'big' a record gets. Some of them weren't great, but a lot were. Also, in the past, there was a big turnover in music, with records arriving, getting big, getting re-issued, then dying - all in the space of a few months. This created a constant flow of fresh music, similar to the pop charts. That has almost completely vanished, leading to the build up of a huge pool of very good, very rare records which (for the most part) will never get massive. A record gets big when there are a few copies, held by several busy, influential DJs or it is a one-off being played week in week out at a well attended venue. Consequently a one-off played every week at Wigan, the Catacombs or Blackpool Mecca could get big. Such weekly 'lead' venues have gone forever I'm afraid. Also you should always judge a record by your initial reaction, not years later when you've heard it a million times and are sick to the teeth of it. However with the benefit of hindsight, there is no need for mediocrity when selecting oldies. There are hundreds of really good ones to choose from. DJs have a responsibility, a moral duty if you like, to play good oldies. It is unforgivable to pick and promote an oldie which is best left forgotten. The dilemma, once some DJ has already done this, is whether to play the 'so-so' oldie or refuse to play it, on request, risking wrath and credibility with the dancing public. I don't want to talk about individual tracks, but feel I should add that "Suzy's Serenade" was a floor filler, and played purely for that reason. Similarly "Cochise" was an outstanding, powerhouse new release which just had to be played. It was also relatively scarce for a couple of weeks as an US album track. It suffered the fate of becoming too big (a number one northern monster) for its own good, but doesn't deserve criticism from a technical standpoint. They both deserve a place in the pantheon of Northern Soul. On the other hand, we have records like Dawn which should simply never have been played at all. I would not be playing any of these at home in the foseeable future. They have all had their day, unlike the other Bob Wilson classic (vocal) "Feels Good" which I still love and play. My humble views... take with a big pinch of salt. Pep Edited April 20, 2012 by Pep 2 13
Harry Crosby Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) Never liked this one, don`t think i new anyone who did and i`ll bet whoever first found it was expecting something else, looking at the credits on the label Edited April 20, 2012 by HARRY CROSBY
Deadwaxdetective Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Never liked this one and i`ll bet whoever first found it was expecting something else, looking at the credits on the label
Guest Brooky Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) Sandpipers - Lonely Too Long In truth....is this much better??????.........Sure it's only the opening instrumental riff that got this one through the door......a bit like The Three Degrees 'Contact'.......which is dreadful after its opening instrumental riff..... Just my opinion though! Edited April 20, 2012 by Brooky
Dazdakin Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Lester Lain - Dizzy........oh my god!! But worse than that is......................Epitome Of Sound - You Don't Love Me..........incoming!!! truly fu**ing awful!!
Premium Stuff Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Sandpipers - Lonely Too Long In truth....is this much better??????.........Sure it's only the opening instrumental riff that got this one through the door......a bit like The Three Degrees 'Contact'.......which is dreadful after its opening instrumental riff..... Just my opinion though! Have you heard OWEN & PAUL & THE DRIFTERS - DEAR MOM / DEAR MOM PART.2. Giant 704 - it's awful - I defy anyone to like that one Cheers Richard
SHEFFSOUL Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Right ! this one i hated ! from Wigan's dark days liked this ..hate fife piper..
SHEFFSOUL Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) like this as well..Mike & Ray.. Edited April 20, 2012 by SHEFFSOUL 1
Prophonics 2029 Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 The funny thing is we have had copys of them at one time or another to hate them so much. 1
Popular Post Benji Posted April 20, 2012 Popular Post Posted April 20, 2012 re. Mike & Ray / Sandpipers: Two of my alltime favourites! Mike & Ray, vocally a bit weak I admit but what a backing! The built up to the chorus is wonderful. Sounds fantastic played out loud. Sandpipers is just a perfect record IMO, there's nothing I would change in it if I could. 4
SHEFFSOUL Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 While I'm watching the site closely for all the saddest reasons, I'd just like to add an observation or two: When finding/playing newer sounds and discoveries, perfection is a luxury DJs can ill afford, and dancefloor reaction dictates how much play and how 'big' a record gets. Some of them weren't great, but a lot were. Also, in the past, there was a big turnover in music, with records arriving, getting big, getting re-issued, then dying - all in the space of a few months. This created a constant flow of fresh music, similar to the pop charts. That has almost completely vanished, leading to the build up of a huge pool of very good, very rare records which (for the most part) will never get massive. A record gets big when there are a few copies, held by several busy, influential DJs or it is a one-off being played week in week out at a well attended venue. Consequently a one-off played every week at Wigan, the Catacombs or Blackpool Mecca could get big. Such weekly 'lead' venues have gone forever I'm afraid. Also you should always judge a record by your initial reaction, not years later when you've heard it a million times and are sick to the teeth of it. However with the benefit of hindsight, there is no need for mediocrity when selecting oldies. There are hundreds of really good ones to choose from. DJs have a responsibility, a moral duty if you like, to play good oldies. It is unforgivable to pick and promote an oldie which is best left forgotten. The dilemma, once some DJ has already done this, is whether to play the 'so-so' oldie or refuse to play it, on request, risking wrath and credibility with the dancing public. I don't want to talk about individual tracks, but feel I should add that "Suzy's Serenade" was a floor filler, and played purely for that reason. Similarly "Cochise" was an outstanding, powerhouse new release which just had to be played. It was also relatively scarce for a couple of weeks as an US album track. It suffered the fate of becoming too big (a number one northern monster) for its own good, but doesn't deserve criticism from a technical standpoint. They both deserve a place in the pantheon of Northern Soul. On the other hand, we have records like Dawn which should simply never have been played at all. I would not be playing any of these at home in the foseeable future. They have all had their day, unlike the other Bob Wilson classic (vocal) "Feels Good" which I still love and play. My humble views... take with a big pinch of salt. Pep good point well made.. 1
Ian Dewhirst Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 While I'm watching the site closely for all the saddest reasons, I'd just like to add an observation or two: When finding/playing newer sounds and discoveries, perfection is a luxury DJs can ill afford, and dancefloor reaction dictates how much play and how 'big' a record gets. Some of them weren't great, but a lot were. Also, in the past, there was a big turnover in music, with records arriving, getting big, getting re-issued, then dying - all in the space of a few months. This created a constant flow of fresh music, similar to the pop charts. That has almost completely vanished, leading to the build up of a huge pool of very good, very rare records which (for the most part) will never get massive. A record gets big when there are a few copies, held by several busy, influential DJs or it is a one-off being played week in week out at a well attended venue. Consequently a one-off played every week at Wigan, the Catacombs or Blackpool Mecca could get big. Such weekly 'lead' venues have gone forever I'm afraid. Also you should always judge a record by your initial reaction, not years later when you've heard it a million times and are sick to the teeth of it. However with the benefit of hindsight, there is no need for mediocrity when selecting oldies. There are hundreds of really good ones to choose from. DJs have a responsibility, a moral duty if you like, to play good oldies. It is unforgivable to pick and promote an oldie which is best left forgotten. The dilemma, once some DJ has already done this, is whether to play the 'so-so' oldie or refuse to play it, on request, risking wrath and credibility with the dancing public. I don't want to talk about individual tracks, but feel I should add that "Suzy's Serenade" was a floor filler, and played purely for that reason. Similarly "Cochise" was an outstanding, powerhouse new release which just had to be played. It was also relatively scarce for a couple of weeks as an US album track. It suffered the fate of becoming too big (a number one northern monster) for its own good, but doesn't deserve criticism from a technical standpoint. They both deserve a place in the pantheon of Northern Soul. On the other hand, we have records like Dawn which should simply never have been played at all. I would not be playing any of these at home in the foseeable future. They have all had their day, unlike the other Bob Wilson classic (vocal) "Feels Good" which I still love and play. My humble views... take with a big pinch of salt. Pep Excellent post Pep and 100% right. I used to openly drool on those rare occasions when I went through your box and realised the sheer beauty of a boxfull of beautiful white demos! Please keep contributing mate. My thoughts are with you. Ian D 1
Ian Dewhirst Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Yuk..... Double Yuk...... Puke City........... Projectile Vomiting......... Ian D
Guest allnightandy Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Yuk..... Double Yuk...... Puke City........... Projectile Vomiting......... Ian D Cherry people for me as well Vom !
Stubbsy Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Black Eyed Peas - "Smallest Man Alive" - what a dirge 1
SHEFFSOUL Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Yuk..... Double Yuk...... Puke City........... Projectile Vomiting......... Ian D ..now come on be honest..i bet you played Gary Lewis to death..back in'74..cos every other bugger did that had it..if only for a few weeks..it was massive..
Ian Dewhirst Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 ..now come on be honest..i bet you played Gary Lewis to death..back in'74..cos every other bugger did that had it..if only for a few weeks..it was massive.. Nope. Never ever. Likewise "Hawaii Five-O" and other drek. That's not to say that I don't like Poppy Northern Soul by white singers. I love "I Can't Help Loving You" by Paul Anka, "Determination" by Dean Parrish, "I'm Gonna Change" by the Four Seasons, "Stranger In My Arms" - Lynn Randell and even "Surrounded By A Ray Of Sunshine" by Samantha Jones. I just hate pure Pop records which are quite obviously badly contrived and made to order, which all of those were. But admittedly, it's not an exact science...... Ian D
Benji Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 That's not to say that I don't like Poppy Northern Soul by white singers. I love "I Can't Help Loving You" by Paul Anka, "Determination" by Dean Parrish, "I'm Gonna Change" by the Four Seasons, "Stranger In My Arms" - Lynn Randell and even "Surrounded By A Ray Of Sunshine" by Samantha Jones. I agree with you on all songs but Dean Parrish. He sure wasn't a "poppy northern white singer"!!!!
Guest Droylsdonian Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) Someone mentioned 'Queen of Fools' - couldn't agree more as absolute total shite. Same with Hoagy Lands' 'Next in Line'. I could go on. In fact, I will: Sisters Love 'Learning to trust my man' . Keanya Collins 'Love Bandit' (be a bit of disagreement there, but shite nonetheless). AND WHAT about: George Benson 'Supership', eh? ALL MASSIVE PLAYS AT THE CASINO. It defined my life, but I ain't looking back & saying it was all brilliant. There was a lot of absolute rubbish. Edited April 21, 2012 by Droylsdonian
Ian Dewhirst Posted April 21, 2012 Posted April 21, 2012 I agree with you on all songs but Dean Parrish. He sure wasn't a "poppy northern white singer"!!!! He was white and marketed towards the pop audience but the point I was making is that Dean Parrish's records are much better than Gary Lewis & The Playboys, Tommy Sands, The Cherry People and Wigan's Ovation. He sounds soulful for a start! That's why some records work for me and other's don't. Dean Parrish is one of my favourite vocalists of all time. Ian D
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