More Wigan Casino Memrobillia

[dthedrug]

HI ALL...I received this poster, this week, unexpected but well appreciated, thanks to NICK MARSHALL & RUSS, NICE ONE AVE K

[Steve G]

Some nice stuff there. Never saw one of those drinks discount vouchers before.

[dthedrug]

Hi All Thanks for the comment Steve, the strange thing about memorabilia is knowing what's what, as some of the stuff I have had now for over 45 years. and the Wigan stuff no matter what it is. will be 33 years plus as we all no 2013 celebrates 40 years,

So a cloakroom ticket, that were issued in 10s of 1000s over the years, and in it's self a meaningless bit of rubbish, turns into a real piece of historical importance? as to me, it evokes and triggers of a part of the Wigan Casino Experience that we can all associate with, To me the cloakroom experience or the toilets are integral to whole aspect of the Casino, (and no I did not keep any crap from the toilets??)

Interesting to note, that on the poster, at the bottom is a ticket to the MOD BALL, I have been told that that item is worth quite big money now, so what do you keep, or are you like me and kept loads of stuff, my reason was we did not have camera's, as today there must be 1000s of photos of all soul nights, DAVE

[Guest manusf3a]

Hi All Thanks for the comment Steve, the strange thing about memorabilia is knowing what's what, as some of the stuff I have had now for over 45 years. and the Wigan stuff no matter what it is. will be 33 years plus as we all no 2013 celebrates 40 years,

So a cloakroom ticket, that were issued in 10s of 1000s over the years, and in it's self a meaningless bit of rubbish, turns into a real piece of historical importance? as to me, it evokes and triggers of a part of the Wigan Casino Experience that we can all associate with, To me the cloakroom experience or the toilets are integral to whole aspect of the Casino, (and no I did not keep any crap from the toilets??)

Interesting to note, that on the poster, at the bottom is a ticket to the MOD BALL, I have been told that that item is worth quite big money now, so what do you keep, or are you like me and kept loads of stuff, my reason was we did not have camera's, as today there must be 1000s of photos of all soul nights, DAVE

Thats right .cameras were not a thing carried around by me or my mates in our circles,although there was always someone lurking around in the mornings looking to take big group photos,that quite a few folk would want to avoid but you coulnt help cropping up in one or two to be shown years later.Like you say Dave no video cameras about either,these days if it moves,video it on phones or cameras and take photos of everything this it seems is what more than a few do,a photo taken every two minutes ,sometimes more, of the whole all nighter ,soul night experience from setting out opening the car door till closing the door behind when returing home.Sometimes in memorabilia less ie one poster can evoke memories more than more itself ie thousands of photos.I am quite glad in a way that cameras etc were not so common then and that every last little detail of the scene was not photographed and meticulously recorded like some archaelogy project,take it easy Dave atb manus. Edited June 19, 2012 by manusf3a

[dthedrug]

Hi All Just a bit more to add to this subject,(PHOTOS) Over the past 30 years, I have looked back on the 5 years from 1968 - 1973 as the most influential period of my life, OK for most people their latent teenage years of self awareness are so memorable, and indeed very personal,

However for me, and the original few who turned away from the progressive LOVE & PEACE, of 1967, which seems to have been embraced by the media, Those kids that like myself had been left to defend for themselves or were made an example of so the majority towed the line, Rebelled against authority& society's norm, The independence that we were looking for had to be created, and not just a progression of what had gone before us, this become inevitable for the 15 - 18 year old in 68, as the GANG aspect of youth sub culture become about, many loners who had become independent from adults, and had a mistrust for authoritarian ways, used the tactic of in your face aggravation, of challenging every thing that was incogrunate to themselves, believe in that they were unchallengeable by all including the LAW,

This new wave of radical working class, would provoke such a reaction that the media, played it down, to such an extent that coverage of French students protesting against the Veitnam War or the MOON LANDING was given media covarage,

My point is that their is no real photographic record of both the rise of the BOTHER BOT (SKINHEADS) and the in-depth underground music scene cultures that beget to further young people for 2 more generations,

The underground music scenes that developed by the gang culture helped develop and empower the black population in the mid 70s to find a voice, and of course bought a scene of great youth culture around SOUL MUSIC that in-turn has helped many black artists to gain respect from nowadays world wide recognition, for their music, this clearly would have never happened, if it was not for the hard core values that I call the SPIRIT of 69.

Again although we did not have the photographic records of this period, it has always been my belief that many pictures were taken by professionals at the time, but politics made them not usable by the media, and as the LAW got rid of all the gang leaders over a 18 month period, and the word SKINHEAD was used by the media to mean a right winger, in a juxtaposition the music aspects of the roots of gang culture has blossomed,

And for this reason alone, even a cloakroom ticket or a 45 RPM record from that period has more significance than any great classic that has been discovered over the last 25 years?

:g: AS ALWAYS DAVE K