Chalky Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 Anyone put the details to these two tacks, they are bugging me now! https://soundcloud.com/chalkster/two-unknown-tracks
Sebastian Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 Second track is Hour Glass (early Allman Brothers):
Windlesoul Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 (edited) Not heard the Hour Glass thing, I like it! The blurb points to a west coast production but has an extremely beachy south east feel to it, maybe not surprising since the Allman Bros were I believe from Macon, and Georgia is next door to Carolinas! Is this on 45? Edited June 5, 2012 by mark w.
Chalky Posted June 5, 2012 Author Posted June 5, 2012 From what I can see it only came out on a 1967 Liberty LP.
Windlesoul Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 (edited) Yep just seen the Hour Glass LP, hardish too for an Lp it appears, (90ish euros one spotted but long gone) Edited June 5, 2012 by mark w.
Chalky Posted June 5, 2012 Author Posted June 5, 2012 Yep just seen the Hour Glass LP, hardish too for an Lp it appears, (90ish euros one spotted but long gone) It was on a 1973 LP release as well.
Chalky Posted June 5, 2012 Author Posted June 5, 2012 1st track is an acetate recording by JB Willingham.
Soul-slider Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 The Hour Glass track is known on the Northern scene and I managed to get a copy of the L.P. In a recent conversation with one of the Allman brothers it was suggested that that track 'Out Of The Night' appeals to Northern Soul afficionados and he was a bit perplexed to say the least, i can't remember where I read that now? It may have been Greg's 'Hey Baby Days Of Beach Music'???
Swifty Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 Chalky , I may be wrong but I think Rob Thomas has/had the J.B. Willingham track? Not a lot of help I know Cheers Swifty
Chalky Posted June 5, 2012 Author Posted June 5, 2012 Chalky , I may be wrong but I think Rob Thomas has/had the J.B. Willingham track? Not a lot of help I know Cheers Swifty He did or still has, one or t'other. Wasn't another there was another JB Willingham track as well Rob had, same as summit else that escapes me right now, Sam Fletcher?
Swifty Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 (edited) He did or still has, one or t'other. Wasn't another there was another JB Willingham track as well Rob had, same as summit else that escapes me right now, Sam Fletcher? Yes mate , it was a version of Sam Fletcher , he played it to me the other week. Swifty P.S. 'I'd think it over ' credits W.B. Willingham ? Edited June 5, 2012 by SWIFTY
Prophonics 2029 Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 (edited) I thought it was Andy Rix's first? Sam fletcher disc credits JB. Edited June 5, 2012 by Prophonics 2029
Swifty Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 I thought it was Andy Rix's first? Sam fletcher disc credits JB. I don't have Sam Fletcher but when I googled it the copies had W B Willingham on , plus I think Andy & Rob sort of share their finds. Swifty
Mick Holdsworth Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 I bought the JB Willingham "Don't Wanna Be Hurt No More" acetate off Sam many moons ago - I had it for about 8/10 years and sold it on only a couple of years ago. This was a 7" single sided Associated acetate (for what it's worth, the picture on my avatar is said disc). Cheers Mick
boba Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 was this one of the things that jimmy radcliffe's son was selling copies of here?
Andy Rix Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 The Hour Glass track was one Rob sourced from Lew Stanley on acetate. We played it quite a bit covered-up as The Seven Souls - It's Time The reason for this being that Henry Moore, who co-wrote the song with Robert Welch, also composed 'I Still Love You' & 'I'm No Stranger' that the Seven Souls recorded .. he also wrote a track called 'Seven Souls Theme'. I got the J.B. Willingham 8" acetate from James in addition to his 'demo' version of 'I'd Think It Over Twice'. Andy
Mick Holdsworth Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 I got the J.B. Willingham 8" acetate from James in addition to his 'demo' version of 'I'd Think It Over Twice'. Andy Hi Andy - So that's an 8" - I didn't know about that one !! - Nice Is it the same take as the 7" I wonder ? (The sound clip in the opening post is exactly the same as the 7" Accociated, at least as far as the soundclip plays) Cheers Mick
Andy Rix Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 Is it the same take as the 7" I wonder ? (The sound clip in the opening post is exactly the same as the 7" Accociated, at least as far as the soundclip plays) As far as I can tell it is exactly the same Andy
Mick Holdsworth Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 As far as I can tell it is exactly the same Andy Thanks Andy
Chalky Posted June 8, 2012 Author Posted June 8, 2012 Thanks Andy for the story behind them and for the scans.
Tiberius Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 The Hour Glass track was one Rob sourced from Lew Stanley on acetate. I've seen several of these "R&B" acetates,featuring various artists. Never been quite sure what to make of them. There are a couple of interesting references on the net. https://www.soulfulkindamusic.net/tams.htm The Tams discog in the link above has this - "R & B (no #) - Laugh It Off / I've Been Hurt - 1977 (came in a plain white label with red logo lettering with "A '77 Lori Production" and "Dynatone Recording" typed on label - these are alternate versions of earlier charted tracks)" There is a little more regarding this Tams 45 here - https://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/southernsoul/message/38720
boba Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 The reason for this being that Henry Moore, who co-wrote the song with Robert Welch, also composed 'I Still Love You' & 'I'm No Stranger' that the Seven Souls recorded .. he also wrote a track called 'Seven Souls Theme'. you know that Bob Welch died yesterday right? He was in the seven souls and fleetwood mac.
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