Invictus 533 - Value Please

[Ringleader]

I have a copy of Freda Payne - Band of gold - Invictus 533 ISSUE to sell and I wondered what it is worth?

This is the version that was withdrawn. I can see DEMOs on Popsike but no ISSUES

I know this has been discussed before but I can't find the article

Thanks in advance

Ian

[Pete S]

I don't think it's really worth much - maybe a tenner, despite RC listing it at £30 - had one about 6 months ago put it in a job lot of 70's UK's. It's finding someone who wants it that's the problem.

I MAY BE WRONG!

[Ringleader]

Thanks for that Pete.....I thought that as it wasn't on popsike it must be worth a lot less than the demo

Ian

[Denbo]

it must be worth a lot less than the demo

Which is odd, as you'd think it would be the other way round. I guess it depends on how many were sold before it was "withdrawn", which I'll admit, I didn't know about. Why was it withdrawn?

When you say "version", is this reissue a slightly different version to the original release?

[Ringleader]

I think popsike only shows records that sell for more than $20 and as there are sales showing for the demo and none for the issue i presumed the ones on ebay must have sold for less than $20....unless there have been none at all sold on ebay

Its the same mono version as invictus 501

On another thread I think Paul Mooney said it was released at the end of EMI's contract with Invictus and shouldn't have been released

[dthedrug]

Hi The UK Invictus Label is complicated to collect and FREDA PAYNE takes up the vast majority of releases, and BAND OF GOLD has 5 variations alone, on the INVICTUS LABEL, And at least 5 more on reissue labels, the gold copy on INFERNO looks great.

your record use to sell for big money back in the 1970s, when it was revived by DAVE EVERSON? at the CASINO, Sadly it has lost it's demand, as most collectors have found it easy to get, the rarest is the original DEMO £50 - £100 orig issue £2.50, #533 reissue demo £10, #533 issue £5 my blank 1st issue DEMO £100+ if that help? DAVE

[Pete S]

Hi The UK Invictus Label is complicated to collect and FREDA PAYNE takes up the vast majority of releases, and BAND OF GOLD has 5 variations alone, on the INVICTUS LABEL, And at least 5 more on reissue labels, the gold copy on INFERNO looks great.

your record use to sell for big money back in the 1970s, when it was revived by DAVE EVERSON? at the CASINO, Sadly it has lost it's demand, as most collectors have found it easy to get, the rarest is the original DEMO £50 - £100 orig issue £2.50, #533 reissue demo £10, #533 issue £5 my blank 1st issue DEMO £100+ if that help? DAVE

That blank demo is superb but nobody in their right mind would pay £50 for the original demo - would they? Invictus demos are common.

[Denbo]

Thanks everybody, most enlightening.

[dthedrug]

That blank demo is superb but nobody in their right mind would pay £50 for the original demo - would they? Invictus demos are common.

HI PETE OH YES THEY WOULD, it's seems strange to us, but most of the demos have gone up in price, the BARINO BROS has sold for £50 on a DEMO in the last month. I have a spare if you want it? rarest by far is INV 501 I have only seen 1 other than mine and that's in MICKS RECORD ROOM? I sold the acetate of it last year, that was from MICK, Not sure what the value of this? ask MS.

NICE RECORD,

[Guest allnightandy]

I got an American issue with picture sleeve in a soul pack is that worth owt ?

[Ringleader]

Thanks Dave but there are about 6 x INV 533 demos on popsike from about the past year which have sold for between £20 and £69 which is a bit more than the £10 you are suggesting

Ian

[Pete S]

Thanks Dave but there are about 6 x INV 533 demos on popsike from about the past year which have sold for between £20 and £69 which is a bit more than the £10 you are suggesting

Ian

I'm with Dave on this one. £69, he must have been Freda's brother or something.

[dthedrug]

Thanks Dave but there are about 6 x INV 533 demos on popsike from about the past year which have sold for between £20 and £69 which is a bit more than the £10 you are suggesting

Ian

HI THATS WHY I DON'T SELL ANYMORE? HOWEVER, my price is te real price any other price is based on demand, if you put anouther £5 on my prices would that be right, remeber the proper value is what a dealer pays not what you pay? have you got the BARINO BROS DEMO? £30 TO YOU SIR, ON OFFER FOR THE NEXT 30 MINS/

[Guest Paul]

I'm not certain why INV 533 was withdrawn in September 1973 but it's most likely that EMI's three year license was due to expire at that time - or it could have already expired because their first Invictus singles had been issued here in August 1970.

I have an issue and a promo of the withdrawn INV 533 but I don't know what they're worth. They can be hard to find and then sometimes you can stumble on a copy at a reasonable price.

I think I've seen less issues than promos.

I've known label collectors pay as much as £50 for some of the more hard to find UK EMI Invictus demos.

After more than forty years some aren't so easy to find in mint condition.

But prices are more about demand than rarity so the values don't usually reflect the true worth.

Paul

[Guest Paul]

UK Invictus (EMI) series:

INV 501 : Chairmen Of The Board - Give Me Just A Little More Time / Since The Days of Pigtails (And Fairy Tales)

INV 502 : Freda Payne - Band Of Gold / The Easiest Way To Fall (released 26/08/70)

INV 503 : not issued

INV 504 : Chairmen Of The Board - You've Got Me Dangling On A String / Patches (released 06/11/70)

INV 505 : Freda Payne - Deeper And Deeper / Unhooked Generation (released 03/11/70)

INV 506 : Glass House - Stealing Moments From Another Woman's Life / If It Ain't Love It Don't Matter (released 08/01/71)

INV 507 : Chairmen Of The Board - Everything's Tuesday / Bless You

INV 508 : not issued

INV 509 : Freda Payne - Cherish What Is Dear To You / The World Don't Owe You A Thing (released 12/03/71)

INV 510 : Glass House - I Can't Be You (You Can't Be Me) / He's In My Life (released 16/04/71)

INV 511 : Chairmen Of The Board - Pay To The Piper / When Will She Tell Me She Needs Me (released 07/05/71)

INV 512 : Freda Payne - Rock Me In The Cradle (Of Your Lovin' Arms) / Now Is The Time To Say Goodbye

INV 513 : Parliament - The Silent Boatman / Livin' The Life

INV 514 : 8th Day - She's Not Just Another Woman / I Can't Fool Myself (released 02/07/71)

INV 515 : Freda Payne - Bring The Boys Home / Odds And Ends (released 08/07/71)

INV 516 : Chairmen Of The Board - Chairmen Of The Board / When Will She Tells Me She Needs Me (released 13/08/71)

INV 517 : not issued

INV 518 : Freda Payne - You've Got To Love Somebody (Let It Be Me) / Mama's Gone (released 12/11/71)

INV 519 : Chairmen Of The Board - Working On A Building Of Love / Try On My Love For Size (released 09/06/72)

INV 520 : Freda Payne - You Brought The Joy / Suddenly It's YesterdayInvictus (released 30/06/72)

INV 521 : 8th Day - Eeny-Meeny-Mini-Mo / Rocks In My Head (first issue) (released 30/06/72 and 05/01/73)

INV 522 : Parliament - Come In Out Of The Rain / Little Old Country Boy (released 01/09/72)

INV 523 : Barrino Brothers - I Shall Not Be Moved / When Love Was A Child (released 08/09/72)

INV 524 : Chairmen Of The Board - Elmo James / Bittersweet (released 15/09/72)

INV 525 : Holland - Dozier featuring Lamont Dozier - Why Can't We Be Lovers / Don't Leave Me (Instrumental) (released 22/09/72)

INV 526 : Freda Payne - Unhooked Generation / Come Back (released 10/11/72)

INV 527 : Chairmen Of The Board - I'm On My Way To A Better Place / So Glad You're Mine (released 24/11/72)

INV 528 : Holland - Dozier featuring Brian Holland - Don't Leave Me Starvin' For Your Love (Part 1) / (Part 2) (released 19/01/73)

INV 529 : Freda Payne - I Shall Not Be Moved / Through The Memory Of My Mind (released 04/05/73)

INV 530 : Chairmen Of The Board - Finders Keepers / (Instrumental) (released 01/06/73)

INV 531 : General Johnson - Only Time Will Tell / (Instrumental) (released 03/08/73)

INV 532 : Danny Woods - Everybody's Tippin' / Roller Coaster (released 07/09/73)

INV 533 : Freda Payne - Band Of Gold / The Easiest Way To Fall (scheduled for release 28/09/73 but withdrawn)

Scheduled but not issued:

INV 503 : Barrino Brothers - Trapped In A Love / When Love was A Child (not issued)

INV 508 : New Play (starring Ruth Copeland) - The Music Box / The Gift Of Me (not issued)

INV 517 : Ruth Copeland - Gimme Shelter / No Commitment (not issued)

Edited May 31, 2012 by Paul

[Ringleader]

thanks for that Paul