Guest Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 Simon my i surgest you take up cookin instead of wanting to be a dj far more hints for that than djin By the look of things you will probly get more bookins.........lol HB
uni ted Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 a question to those chaps who live a tad north of gods own country,i thought buckfast was a slang term for a drink better known as wreck the hoose juice
Little-stevie Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 (edited) We have seen Kev Roberts post on here for quite a while now and so so many don't dig his thing,Kev looks at the money side everytime when posting,that drives him(he is a big time promoter)..Others are looking at different aspects..The likes of Stevie Z,Quinvy and many others on here are on seperate planets to Mr Roberts..Like you said,vote with your feet..Kev said no person would want to see the scene go underground with only 500 or so at rare soul nights around the country,thats what a lot on here would like to see it i'm sure.Kev is thinking about money and numbers all the time,thats ok because big promoters should do that,its business,a really underground soul scene would not make him any cash and thus he would never want that..We have many different people on here,some want events with 2,000 there and others would be happy with a dedicated 100 or less.. Its the really tacky commercial side of the scene that gets to a lot of people,i think you can promote large and small events without treating us like fools or xmas shoppers at Crazy George,some adverts for soul nights are like the junk mail that comes through the door,all colour gloss adverts with no soul at all...They say the best,the biggest,the longest etc etc..We aint fools and are not taken in by this type of promo,we have brains and hearts and feelings,all that these type of promos lack...I think most people i know on soul-source are educated people(Apart from Sheffield boys )and don't just "sign on the dotted line",they think about what they are signing...Like i said before Mr Roberts and Stevie Z plus others will never agree because they are looking at the scene from different places..Everytime Kev posts on here he will get get some negative feedback because some see him as the devil ,others hold him in high regard for putting on the large events that they love..That aint ever gonna change..Like Dave said...You go where you wanna go and enjoy..Don't be one of these people who goes to an event that you don't like and then just sits there moaning,stay away from there and leave it to those who want that... I go where i wanna go and stay away from places i don't find to my taste..Its that easy...I think the problem is with some promoters is that they never go to places that they don't promote or have some financial interest in..The scene is about getting out there and supporting each other,if you never set foot in a place and expect them all to come along like sheep to your event then you aint in touch..If Kev and some others just walked into any of the smaller nights out there on the scene and just sat back with mates and had a beer then he would get much better feedback..I judge a night on the music and type of person,quality before quantity but that does not mean i would keep going to an event with great music and no people,i need the buzz also from the dancefloor etc..Some peoples buzz is how much cash they have made only,thats not soul...If you have respect for people and are a decent person then you can get both,a good crowd,nice atmosphere and make some cash ,thats a fantastic night aint it.. ps I hope to meet Mr Roberts sometime soon for the first time..I have been on this scene for many many years and we have never met..I would like to see if he really does have horns ..Drinks on you Mr Roberts,i know you have a bob or two Edited December 23, 2005 by little-stevie
Guest ShaneH Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 some good points stevie. i too would like to see all of the big promoters turning up at the small nights too. i have said this all along. any idea where you can buy a nut cutlet without feeling embarassed? those checkout ladies can be so cruel at times. true story...... i remember a mate a few years back who wanted to cook a special meal for his new girlfriend. he was useless but really wanted to make the effort. he needed some 'leeks' for this particular dish he was about to create. he was browsing the fruit and veg section in Asda when he stumbled upon some 'baby leeks'. he thought yes they are more expensive but so what - this is a special occassion. when he arrived at the checkout, the old dear with the blue rinse said to him with real concern "you do know that these aren't 'spring onions?' i love that story Shane
Guest Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 Hi Kev, Some very good points well put there, but, didn't you make your name originally by being at the cutting edge of this scene. You had the records that the others didn't, and the rest, as they say is history. The thing that frustrates so many of us Kev, is that we struggle to get punters to our upfront nights. Yet you have 1000+ listening to the same old playlist. Jealousy, envy? I don't think so. I just want to share my passion for this music with like minded individuals. I feel that if we don't offer something fresher, more exciting, then people will get fed up and leave the scene. That's just my opinion Kev, you are obviously one of, if not, THE, number one promoter on this scene. But how long will there be a scene? All the best to you and your's, Phil. Hey Phil--Good call. And thanks for the praise. Again I wish to emphasise the need for the Lifeline's, Greatstones, Wilton's etc . The passion and commitment of you guys is top notch. But seriously mate, the bulk of Soulies today are bathed in nostalgia and want a good time. Unfamiliarity is a minority. I admire the No More Doggin type gigs, as I do a local Motown night. It means someone, somewhere risked an investment to put something on. AT LEAST WE ALL HAVE SOMEWHERE TO GO! Feel sorry for the Glam Rockers of the 70's who have found their scene frozen out....by NORTHERN SOUL!
Guest lagerlout Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 northern soul is not all about oldies...as myself i enjoy to listen to the old tunes cos they give me such great memories. but i have also been listening to the likes of the new and up and coming d.js jamie,richie,brett,joe,stevie,john may,along with lady d.js doing the odd spots here and there and i like what im hearing. im an old casino die hard and loved Mr.Ms but still like to hear new tunes.....its just good to know that eventually the baton will be past to a new generation of soulies who will keep this music going hopefully long after we have fell off this planet Mr Ms forever....
Guest Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 We have seen Kev Roberts post on here for quite a while now and so so many don't dig his thing,Kev looks at the money side everytime when posting,that drives him(he is a big time promoter)..Others are looking at different aspects..The likes of Stevie Z,Quinvy and many others on here are on seperate planets to Mr Roberts..Like you said,vote with your feet..Kev said no person would want to see the scene go underground with only 500 or so at rare soul nights around the country,thats what a lot on here would like to see it i'm sure.Kev is thinking about money and numbers all the time,thats ok because big promoters should do that,its business,a really underground soul scene would not make him any cash and thus he would never want that..We have many different people on here,some want events with 2,000 there and others would be happy with a dedicated 100 or less.. Its the really tacky commercial side of the scene that gets to a lot of people,i think you can promote large and small events without treating us like fools or xmas shoppers at Crazy George,some adverts for soul nights are like the junk mail that comes through the door,all colour gloss adverts with no soul at all...They say the best,the biggest,the longest etc etc..We aint fools and are not taken in by this type of promo,we have brains and hearts and feelings,all that these type of promos lack...I think most people i know on soul-source are educated people(Apart from Sheffield boys )and don't just "sign on the dotted line",they think about what they are signing...Like i said before Mr Roberts and Stevie Z plus others will never agree because they are looking at the scene from different places..Everytime Kev posts on here he will get get some negative feedback because some see him as the devil ,others hold him in high regard for putting on the large events that they love..That aint ever gonna change..Like Dave said...You go where you wanna go and enjoy..Don't be one of these people who goes to an event that you don't like and then just sits there moaning,stay away from there and leave it to those who want that... I go where i wanna go and stay away from places i don't find to my taste..Its that easy...I think the problem is with some promoters is that they never go to places that they don't promote or have some financial interest in..The scene is about getting out there and supporting each other,if you never set foot in a place and expect them all to come along like sheep to your event then you aint in touch..If Kev and some others just walked into any of the smaller nights out there on the scene and just sat back with mates and had a beer then he would get much better feedback..I judge a night on the music and type of person,quality before quantity but that does not mean i would keep going to an event with great music and no people,i need the buzz also from the dancefloor etc..Some peoples buzz is how much cash they have made only,thats not soul...If you have respect for people and are a decent person then you can get both,a good crowd,nice atmosphere and make some cash ,thats a fantastic night aint it.. ps I hope to meet Mr Roberts sometime soon for the first time..I have been on this scene for many many years and we have never met..I would like to see if he really does have horns ..Drinks on you Mr Roberts,i know you have a bob or two Stevie, I did enough small gigs in the 70's working every week for 10-20 quid. You make very good points and Shane is no doubt working on a potent 'under played oldies' cocktail, to inject into me when I see him at our beloved Hillsborough. I aim to visit the Greatstone, Wilton and Doggin' next year. I may be 'under cover' with a false moustache and beard. My head may be shaved as to look like my business colleague Richard Searling! I will be easy to spot though, my sales box will contain Black Magic and Casino Classics 45's(couldn't believe the prices on some of my old labels like Destiny in JM's new British price guide!) Kev 'keeping it real' R Merry X and all that.
Little-stevie Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 Stevie, I did enough small gigs in the 70's working every week for 10-20 quid. You make very good points and Shane is no doubt working on a potent 'under played oldies' cocktail, to inject into me when I see him at our beloved Hillsborough. I aim to visit the Greatstone, Wilton and Doggin' next year. I may be 'under cover' with a false moustache and beard. My head may be shaved as to look like my business colleague Richard Searling! I will be easy to spot though, my sales box will contain Black Magic and Casino Classics 45's(couldn't believe the prices on some of my old labels like Destiny in JM's new British price guide!) Kev 'keeping it real' R Merry X and all that. To look like my your business partner,is that what you call him??what about just calling him your mate..Put business away for just one second...We all look forward to seeing you at our little events...There will be many who would want to chat to you for sure ..Not sure it would be all what you wanna hear but you have a thick skin don't you..Maybe undercover is best ..I will set up a question and answer session,its gonna be called Kev comes clean..Once they see that you don't surf on the lakes of fire they could warm to you.. Yes come and see the little people...It will be like Gullivers travels for you.. soul or nothing x
uni ted Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 stevie just a thought,if he doesnt have any horns,he could allways try viagra,seems to do it for some people.
Mark Bicknell Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 Merry Christmas one and all,it's very simple have a ball ! .....................remember this scene is for life not just for Christmas, do what you do, enjoy,collect,play,dance to be it retro nostalgia or underground, it's the music, pure,beautiful and oh so good, and lastly it started in Detroit and not Wigan despite what some might say......without the music there would be no debate!........'It's a feeling' to the bone...i'm gonna play a few tunes now, go on do the same...it makes you feel good don't it? Regards - Mark Bicknell.
Guest Dodger Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 northern soul is not all about oldies... Isn't every single record played on the northern soul scene an oldie?????????
Guest Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 Isn't every single record played on the northern soul scene an oldie????????? I already said that LOL plus most of whats played in the modern rooms at northern do's, if you want 'newies' get down to HMV and buy some chart stuff although a lot of that is just rehashed oldies
Guest lagerlout Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 well mark it started at the leeds central for me, as tickets to detroit were few and far between
Mark Bicknell Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 well mark it started at the leeds central for me, as tickets to detroit were few and far between Trust you to pick hairs........lol i think you know what i mean, basically the music came first we as a scene embraced it and the bottom line with all this is we are all involved in this soulful journey because of basically the common ground of loving the music whatever the style,era or level, we all don't get on or share the same views but that's life and to be fair to the top 500 records comments i think if you sat down and made a list it would be a far greater number of records than 500 considered classic,played out, well known oldies call them what you will, this scene is based on nostalgia due to the very nature of it's music. Acceptance of the unknown's, lesser played should be respected as should the oldies thing, basically whatever floats your boat is on offer nationwide, something for everyone, the problem is that often opinion and tempers flare and this 'who knows best' attitude is the catalist of bad feeling as this thread would suggest, live and let live i say, i'm proud to be part of this scene and refuse to see it be destroyed by opinion's, if an event,promotion,music policy, style is of a quality then in time the genuine soul fans will attend, so there is really no need to hype events............we all have the right to do what we want,say what we feel and play what we want, negative vibe's just stir things up and get's everyone's backs up, it's just not that nice when it get's personal and i suggest that there are hidden agenda's in some of the comments which has little or nothing to do with the scene or the music. Keep the comments constructive and if you have a personal beef with someone perhaps it's best to take it off this site and maybe into the car park.......now back to the Christmas food thingy. Regards - Mark Bicknell.
Guest Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 To look like my your business partner,is that what you call him??what about just calling him your mate..Put business away for just one second...We all look forward to seeing you at our little events...There will be many who would want to chat to you for sure ..Not sure it would be all what you wanna hear but you have a thick skin don't you..Maybe undercover is best ..I will set up a question and answer session,its gonna be called Kev comes clean..Once they see that you don't surf on the lakes of fire they could warm to you.. Yes come and see the little people...It will be like Gullivers travels for you.. soul or nothing x Right on brother-keep the faith-keep on keeping on-- Trust you to pick hairs........lol i think you know what i mean, basically the music came first we as a scene embraced it and the bottom line with all this is we are all involved in this soulful journey because of basically the common ground of loving the music whatever the style,era or level, we all don't get on or share the same views but that's life and to be fair to the top 500 records comments i think if you sat down and made a list it would be a far greater number of records than 500 considered classic,played out, well known oldies call them what you will, this scene is based on nostalgia due to the very nature of it's music. Acceptance of the unknown's, lesser played should be respected as should the oldies thing, basically whatever floats your boat is on offer nationwide, something for everyone, the problem is that often opinion and tempers flare and this 'who knows best' attitude is the catalist of bad feeling as this thread would suggest, live and let live i say, i'm proud to be part of this scene and refuse to see it be destroyed by opinion's, if an event,promotion,music policy, style is of a quality then in time the genuine soul fans will attend, so there is really no need to hype events............we all have the right to do what we want,say what we feel and play what we want, negative vibe's just stir things up and get's everyone's backs up, it's just not that nice when it get's personal and i suggest that there are hidden agenda's in some of the comments which has little or nothing to do with the scene or the music. Keep the comments constructive and if you have a personal beef with someone perhaps it's best to take it off this site and maybe into the car park.......now back to the Christmas food thingy. Regards - Mark Bicknell. The wife's bought the biggest Turkey I've ever seen! But enough about Shane...........
Guest lagerlout Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 catch mark on solar-radio....mark bicknells cookery hour...soul-food at its best...lol
Mark Bicknell Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 The wife's bought the biggest Turkey I've ever seen! But enough about Shane........... Trust you to have a bigger turkey than anyone else...still hey that's show biz...lol oh and Kev best you use two onions up it's bum to keep it moist, have a good one tonight up there in the North East and Stoke New Years Eve! Mark Bicknell.
Guest Dodger Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 if you want 'newies' get down to HMV and buy some chart stuff although a lot of that is just rehashed oldies Yes Karen, all new soul music is chart soul and sold in HMV. You know your stuff and no mistake.
Mark Bicknell Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 catch mark on solar-radio....mark bicknells cookery hour...soul-food at its best...lol What a brilliant idea...lol Mark. Come on Mr Rimmer say something mate...lol Mark Bicknell.
Guest 50box Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 I aim to visit the Greatstone, Wilton and Doggin' next year. I may be 'under cover' with a false moustache and beard. My head may be shaved as to look like my business colleague Richard Searling! Kev 'keeping it real' R Merry X and all that. If you see someone with dodgy CD`s are you prepared not to go off on one ?
Guest Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 Isn't every single record played on the northern soul scene an oldie????????? NO........
Guest Dodger Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 NO........ Name some that were made this year then . . . .
Guest 50box Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 Name some that were made this year then . . . . If this aint love don`t know what is.
Makemvinyl Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 Name some that were made this year then . . . . Angel want a love i can see
Guest Baz Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 Name some that were made this year then . . . . Nicola Wills........or made with in the last couple of years anyway
vaultofsouler Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 Nicola Wills........or made with in the last couple of years anyway Try 6-8 months(ish) Baz ....
Guest Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 Look`s like every body`s answered for me,thank`s and there`s them Sharon Jone`s,and them dap king`s,they`re knocking out some great stuff,i`m allway`s looking for new stuff,how big was Corey Glover when that got released,on CD ,but then soon booted for northern scene,me i`ll stick with me original promo CD thanks........
Guest Baz Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 Try 6-8 months(ish) Baz .... Couldn't remeber if it was this year or not
vaultofsouler Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 Couldn't remeber if it was this year or not Wonder WHY mate ....
Guest Baz Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 Wonder WHY mate .... I didn't buy one so cant check the date
Guest Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 (edited) Wonder WHY mate .... mr Vaultosouler Edited December 23, 2005 by ken
vaultofsouler Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 I didn't buy one so cant check the date No date on it Baz .... Cause he forgot....mr Vaultosouler Don't we all these days Ken ....
Guest Dodger Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 Oh right, half a dozen out of the many thousands that get played everywhere. What WAS I thinking of!!!!!!
vaultofsouler Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 (edited) Oh right, half a dozen out of the many thousands that get played everywhere. What WAS I thinking of!!!!!! Probably "new style R&B/modern/2 step" that you can here in EVERY night club up and down the land on any given weekend .... Edited December 23, 2005 by vaultofsouler
Guest Baz Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 Probably "new style R&B/modern/2 step" that you can here in EVERY night club up and down the land on any given weekend ....
Guest Dodger Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 Probably "new style R&B/modern/2 step" that you can here in EVERY night club up and down the land on any given weekend .... Goodness me, you're totally right. You lads know your onions when it comes to music outside northern soul, I'm impressed.
Guest Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 Oh right, half a dozen out of the many thousands that get played everywhere. What WAS I thinking of!!!!!! And how many of them,where being played when they where released,not many Benny,i`ll tell you,there`s some little label somewere we dont know about yet,allthough the birth of the inter-net as made it less likely,first time they get play`s at all-nighter`s make`s em new to me!!
vaultofsouler Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 (edited) Goodness me, you're totally right. You lads know your onions when it comes to music outside northern soul, I'm impressed. It's called having a 15 yr old daughter that got "into" soul through me and then has "expanded" her "soul tastes" upto present day.... every other "home made CD" she fetches home now has "a few" I know from the "modern scene".... she hates me telling her I know it .... means I hear her "skip" that one when she's playing it.... lots of "niche", "gatecrasher", "creamfields" etc., stuff she gets done from the "soulful rooms/arenas" that has "our plays" on them.... I take that as a "compliment" for taste .... Merry Christmassy to you Roger .... Edited December 23, 2005 by vaultofsouler
Guest Dodger Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 It's called having a 15 yr old daughter that got "into" soul through me and then has "expanded" her "soul tastes" upto present day.... every other "home made CD" she fetches home now has "a few" I know from the "modern scene".... she hates me telling her I know it .... means I hear her "skip" that one when she's playing it.... lots of "niche", "gatecrasher", "creamfields" etc., stuff she gets done from the "soulful rooms/arenas" that has "our plays" on them.... I take that as a "compliment" for taste .... Merry Christmassy to you Roger .... And a very merry Christmas to Vaultofsouler. Sorry but one of my pet hates is for people to presume that all new soul music is the shite that is played on MTV. I've seen it plenty of times on here, if you have a different take on it, fair enough but I can guarantee that you won't hear 99% of the new soul music I and my peers buy in high street clubs up and down the country every weekend, which is what you said. With the occasional exception, the stuff that makes the charts and gets played in the clubs is shite for the most part and as far removed from the vast amount of genuine quality SOUL music made today as it's possible to be. You'll be trying to tell me that a record made in the 70s is modern, next!!
Guest Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 Yes Karen, all new soul music is chart soul and sold in HMV. You know your stuff and no mistake. I didn't say anything about Soul music Roger, I said 'newies'
Simsy Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 If this aint love don`t know what is. Made this year ... ?
Guest realsoulfan Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 It's called having a 15 yr old daughter that got "into" soul through me and then has "expanded" her "soul tastes" upto present day.... every other "home made CD" she fetches home now has "a few" I know from the "modern scene".... she hates me telling her I know it .... means I hear her "skip" that one when she's playing it.... lots of "niche", "gatecrasher", "creamfields" etc., stuff she gets done from the "soulful rooms/arenas" that has "our plays" on them.... I take that as a "compliment" for taste .... Merry Christmassy to you Roger .... Sounds to me that your 15 year old daughter is clued up and opened minded about her music Seems like she has good contacts as some of the Vinyl, CDRs and MP3s are hard to get hold of Any chance of a playlist ?
Guest dundeedavie Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 And a very merry Christmas to Vaultofsouler. Sorry but one of my pet hates is for people to presume that all new soul music is the shite that is played on MTV. just a personal opinion .... i've never thought present day soul is the stuff played on MTV but i still think it is shite
Guest Dodger Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 just a personal opinion .... i've never thought present day soul is the stuff played on MTV but i still think it is shite I'd expect nothing less from somebody who believes r&b to be a credible music genre!!
Simsy Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 am i rong again ? Well I'm thinking of the one that goes "if this isn't love, I don't know what is" repeat ... "I have know many women before, given my heart to a few ... " Sixties sounding thing, shouty backing ... Been around year's ... But got a few spins recently. So I don't know mate, unless your version is some techno soul disco y2k unusuallness ...
Simsy Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 (edited) no, you're right. Johnny Bartel - If this isn't love (SOLID STATE) Edited December 23, 2005 by Simsy
Guest Netspeaky Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 Look`s like every body`s answered for me,thank`s and there`s them Sharon Jone`s,and them dap king`s,they`re knocking out some great stuff,i`m allway`s looking for new stuff,how big was Corey Glover when that got released,on CD ,but then soon booted for northern scene,me i`ll stick with me original promo CD thanks........ I've got all the Daptone releases except first 4 on label anybody help me out?
Guest dundeedavie Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 I'd expect nothing less from somebody who believes r&b to be a credible music genre!! i think if it wasn't for R'n'B you wouldn't be listening to what you do ..... it's the building blocks of the music and (in scotland anyway)is attracting the younger generation . is that a bad thing . not just saying this but in MY honest opinion good quality gritty r'n'b is the way forward , hence the reason why i don't dj at soul do's very often anymore and run an R'n'B night , it's what i love with a passion Davie
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