p0stscript Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 i do like fast , but saying that one of the greatest soul stirring , tear whelling tunes i have ever heard is one of the slowest and have never heard it played out , maybe for that reason show me the time by.... sir ceaser thanks for reminding me, not heard in a long while. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Stevie T Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 thanks for reminding me, not heard in a long while. such a record , so full of emotion , and his voice , dear lord , the deepest mellowest voice i have ever heard , again never heard it played out , such a shame Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 What is the difference between a "slowie" and a "shuffler" ? A ballad is walking pace, really down tempo, basically it isnt in general a dancer. A Beat ballad is what it says, a ballad with a beat and cause it has a beat it could be a dancer. Mid tempo Is neither fast nor slow so a mid tempo track would be too fast for this topic in reality.. Many of those mentioned are mid tempo. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 A ballad is walking pace, really down tempo, basically it isnt in general a dancer. A Beat ballad is what it says, a ballad with a beat and cause it has a beat it could be a dancer. Mid tempo Is neither fast nor slow so a mid tempo track would be too fast for this topic in reality.. Many of those mentioned are mid tempo. All depends how fast you walk then, or how long or short your legs are Seriously, a lot of the stuff on here (especially what I've posted) I consider 'slowie' records. They are tunes I wouldn't usually play out as a rule although I have done (albeit years ago when there was more of a call for the slower tempo). Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Len Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 (edited) 'Crying Clown' - Mid-tempo (I also mentioned that btw) 'The Drifter' - Ballad. Chalky's right though, a lot are Midtempo and the topic starter asked about Ballads. Len. P.s - Joan, there is a call for the slower tempo....you just can't hear me calling over all the blo*dy loud stompers that are being played! Edited April 26, 2012 by LEN 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Stevie T Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 'Crying Clown' - Mid-tempo (I also mentioned that btw) 'The Drifter' - Ballad. Chalky's right though, a lot are Midtempo and the topoic starter asked about Ballads. Len. P.s - Joan, there is a call for the slower tempo....you just can't hear me calling over all the blo*dy load stompers that are being played!) drifter ...wow ! great tune ..... ......roy hamilton , panic is on , anything by Roy hamilton , i have been told i love a crooner , they were right Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Beats per minute measure tempo, we deal with basically three, up, mid and ballad but other use different terms such as Joan. But the proper definitions are.....This will really confuse you now and give it all a whole new meaning (from Wikipedia) Basic tempo markings All of these markings are based on a few root words. By adding an -issimo ending the word is amplified/made louder, by adding an -ino or -etto ending the word is diminished/made softer. The metronome marks are broad approximations. Note: Metronome markings are a guide only and depending on the time signature and the piece itself, these figures may not be appropriate in every circumstance. Larghissimo " very, very slow (20 bpm and below) Grave " slow and solemn (20-40 bpm) Lento " slowly (40-60 bpm) Largo " broadly (40-60 bpm) Larghetto " rather broadly (60-66 bpm) Adagio " slow and stately (literally, "at ease") (66-76 bpm) Adagietto " rather slow (70-80 bpm) Andante moderato " a bit slower than andante Andante " at a walking pace (76-108 bpm) Andantino - slightly faster than andante (although in some cases it can be taken to mean slightly slower than andante) Moderato " moderately (108-120 bpm) Marcia Moderato " moderately, in the manner of a march Allegretto " moderately fast (but less so than allegro) Allegro moderato " moderately quick (112-124 bpm) Allegro " fast, quickly and bright (120-168 bpm) Vivace " lively and fast (¢°í"¹" 140 bpm) (quicker than allegro) Vivacissimo " very fast and lively Allegrissimo " very fast Presto " very fast (168-200 bpm) Prestissimo " extremely fast (more than 200bpm) Additional Terms: A piacere " the performer may use his own discretion with regard to tempo and rhythm; literally "at pleasure"[4] L'istesso tempo or Lo stesso tempo " at the same speed Tempo comodo " at a comfortable (normal) speed Tempo di... " the speed of a ... (such as Tempo di valse (speed of a waltz), Tempo di marcia (speed of a march)) Tempo giusto " at a consistent speed, at the 'right' speed, in strict tempo Tempo semplice " simple, regular speed, plainly [edit]Common qualifiers Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
jocko Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 All depends how fast you walk then, or how long or short your legs are Seriously, a lot of the stuff on here (especially what I've posted) I consider 'slowie' records. They are tunes I wouldn't usually play out as a rule although I have done (albeit years ago when there was more of a call for the slower tempo). No comments on the leg sizes! Ah yes the good old days when Maurice Long I Don't Love You Anymore was a stomper compared to some of my other plays. Does that fit the bill? 99% of the stuff on here is nowhere near a ballad for me, quite amazing the change in current day scene views I suspect. I do think in amazement of some of the slow stuff I got away with***, mostly at Allanton admittedly, and suspect I would be talking in a very high pitched voice if I even tried it in current times. Like lots of things right time right place I suppose back in the day for some slower things at loads of venues, and it was the exception rather than the rule, despite how some of those tempo terrorist try to rewrite history. *** And yes I know nobody payed a blind bit of attention to what I played after 6, just no need to say it out loud, okay! I will have a dig tonight and think of some of the stuff I got away with, back in the day, sure if Old Man Walls is reading it, he will remind me of some, he used to moan enough about them at the time..... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Len Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Beats per minute measure tempo, we deal with basically three, up, mid and ballad but other use different terms such as Joan. But the proper definitions are.....This will really confuse you now and give it all a whole new meaning (from Wikipedia) Basic tempo markings All of these markings are based on a few root words. By adding an -issimo ending the word is amplified/made louder, by adding an -ino or -etto ending the word is diminished/made softer. The metronome marks are broad approximations. Note: Metronome markings are a guide only and depending on the time signature and the piece itself, these figures may not be appropriate in every circumstance. Larghissimo " very, very slow (20 bpm and below) Grave " slow and solemn (20-40 bpm) Lento " slowly (40-60 bpm) Largo " broadly (40-60 bpm) Larghetto " rather broadly (60-66 bpm) Adagio " slow and stately (literally, "at ease") (66-76 bpm) Adagietto " rather slow (70-80 bpm) Andante moderato " a bit slower than andante Andante " at a walking pace (76-108 bpm) Andantino - slightly faster than andante (although in some cases it can be taken to mean slightly slower than andante) Moderato " moderately (108-120 bpm) Marcia Moderato " moderately, in the manner of a march Allegretto " moderately fast (but less so than allegro) Allegro moderato " moderately quick (112-124 bpm) Allegro " fast, quickly and bright (120-168 bpm) Vivace " lively and fast (¢°í"¹" 140 bpm) (quicker than allegro) Vivacissimo " very fast and lively Allegrissimo " very fast Presto " very fast (168-200 bpm) Prestissimo " extremely fast (more than 200bpm) Additional Terms: A piacere " the performer may use his own discretion with regard to tempo and rhythm; literally "at pleasure"[4] L'istesso tempo or Lo stesso tempo " at the same speed Tempo comodo " at a comfortable (normal) speed Tempo di... " the speed of a ... (such as Tempo di valse (speed of a waltz), Tempo di marcia (speed of a march)) Tempo giusto " at a consistent speed, at the 'right' speed, in strict tempo Tempo semplice " simple, regular speed, plainly [edit]Common qualifiers CRUMBS! Len Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 CRUMBS! Len I'll see your crumbs and raise you a crikey Apologies for not adhering to the brief guys. As punishment I shall sit and write a paper on the fricking Giants Causeway (that's what I should have been doing anyway) 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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