grodriguez Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 Anyone know what the deal is with the copies on ebay are about. one listed as a test press. With Simon Soussan having done the boots in the US, wondering if that's what the guy found. I stayed away from those auctions because I don't have that one down right. I've heard everything from people saying that there are boots that also are machine stamped to originals having slight different recordings. Anyone know what the real one looks/sounds like?
The Yank Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 According to the 2nd edition of Tim Brown's book, the boot has a canary yellow label ( the original is more of a gold color) and the original has an "H" stamped in the dead wax.
Dave Fleming Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 As far as i was aware the Soundville orig has the stamped H,and the Soundville boots do not, i think the Soultown copys were done later by Bobby Sanders as it`s a slightly different take to the Soundville copy, the Soultown copys have the west coast stamp in the run out(like John and The Weirdest),also i`m talking abut the "Love can`t be modernized" side,if the Soultown 45 was an out and out boot of the Soundville 45 why are the "LCBM" side`s different?? Dave f.......
dthedrug Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 HI The origanal is on SOUNDVILE RECORDS, a plain yellow label, and is rare, I was gonna put a scan up of my copy. but to knackard, HOWEVER BEWARE OF A GOOD LOOK A LIKE?
Dave Fleming Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 Here`s the Boot,as i can`t see any stamped H in the run out,it also looks yellow too me. Dave f....
dthedrug Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 Here`s the Boot,as i can`t see any stamped H in the run out,it also looks yellow too me. Dave f.... HI ALL I HAD A COPY IN MY SALES BOX. I showed it to BUTCH at the LIFELINE ALLNIGHTER he had to look very close at it (2 min) as they can fool most? thats why I say beware, I paid £3 for a copy in the 80s thinking at the time what a bargin!! DAVE
boba Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 i got a copy from that seller and there is an "H" stamped in the deadwax. It clearly has the wear of records that have been moved around a lot, doesn't look clean enough to be a boot imo.
grodriguez Posted April 3, 2012 Author Posted April 3, 2012 i got a copy from that seller and there is an "H" stamped in the deadwax. It clearly has the wear of records that have been moved around a lot, doesn't look clean enough to be a boot imo. Thanks Bob Is the stamp on both sides? or just one? can you tell me what else reads in the deadwax?
John Parker Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 (edited) "H" is stamped on both sides Different shade of yellow to the boot Also not sure whether the boot has the stamped in matrix as the original does on the "mountain " side..stamped HSJ 101-B The matrix on the "A" side is tiny-- scratched in HSJ 101 A-RE2 Hope that helps Edited April 3, 2012 by john parker
Dave Fleming Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 "H" is stamped on both sides Different shade of yellow to the boot Also not sure whether the boot has the stamped in matrix as the original does on the "mountain " side..stamped HSJ 101-B The matrix on the "A" side is tiny-- scratched in HSJ 101 A-RE2 Hope that helps RE: The matrix on the "A" side is tiny-- scratched in HSJ 101 A-RE2 is this on the Orig or the Boot?,also what does the RE2 ,mean?,cheers. Dave f....
John Parker Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 RE: The matrix on the "A" side is tiny-- scratched in HSJ 101 A-RE2 is this on the Orig or the Boot?,also what does the RE2 ,mean?,cheers. Dave f.... The Original......... No idea about RE2
grodriguez Posted April 3, 2012 Author Posted April 3, 2012 also noticed 2 different cuts. one with the words "come on here Jack and blow" right before the sax solo. Anyone know which cut is on the original soundville copy?
John Parker Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 also noticed 2 different cuts. one with the words "come on here Jack and blow" right before the sax solo. Anyone know which cut is on the original soundville copy? This is certainly on the original...dont know about the boot Odd they should be different
Blunny Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 also noticed 2 different cuts. one with the words "come on here Jack and blow" right before the sax solo. Anyone know which cut is on the original soundville copy? That's also on the SoulTown copies aswell.
Guest giant Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 the original is machine stamped in dead wax on both side
boba Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 Thanks Bob Is the stamp on both sides? or just one? can you tell me what else reads in the deadwax? he actually sent me closeup photos of the deadwax, i will see if i still have them
TEDDY EDDY Posted April 6, 2012 Posted April 6, 2012 he actually sent me closeup photos of the deadwax, i will see if i still have them Does anyone know the value of this , m- original,,?
45cellar Posted April 6, 2012 Posted April 6, 2012 Here's a couple of threads about this record. >>> <<< >>> <<< Soultown BOOT & Matrix
TEDDY EDDY Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Does anyone know the value of this , m- original,,?
De-to Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 a few copys here... https://www.popsike.com/php/quicksearch.php?searchtext=the+trips&x=9&y=11
John Parker Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 (edited) RE: The matrix on the "A" side is tiny-- scratched in HSJ 101 A-RE2 is this on the Orig or the Boot?,also what does the RE2 ,mean?,cheers. Dave f.... I'd be interested in what folks think I have looked at the previous threads re the Soultown copies having the voice over through the sax break The Soultown copies are boots..no question The double stamped Soundville with "H" and stamped matrix ..different take The Soundville with scratched in matrix both sides..boot What about the Soundville copy with "H" stamped BOTH sides and STAMPED matrix one side??? Was this one used for the SOULTOWN boots and RE2 ..Second take??...otherwise why cut it on soundville...in itself very rare then again on Soultown? So theory...2 takes..the one with the "vocal" in the break was the version used on the Soultown boot Thoughts please Edited April 9, 2012 by john parker
John Parker Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 I'd be interested in what folks think I have looked at the previous threads re the Soultown copies having the voice over through the sax break The Soultown copies are boots..no question The double stamped Soundville with "H" and stamped matrix ..different take The Soundville with scratched in matrix both sides..boot What about the Soundville copy with "H" stamped BOTH sides and STAMPED matrix one side??? Was this one used for the SOULTOWN boots and RE2 ..Second take??...otherwise why cut it on soundville...in itself very rare then again on Soultown? So theory...2 takes..the one with the "vocal" in the break was the version used on the Soultown boot Thoughts please
John Parker Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 Sorry ...was going to say Where's John Manship when you need him?
gabby Posted April 9, 2012 Posted April 9, 2012 (edited) George, Gabby here. I would be very careful Georgel. Eddie rang me from Oregon asking me about the copies that surfaced, and after he explained them to me I advised him to stay well clear and not throw away his money. The early boots that Sousan produced were through Henry Graham. Henry had one of the original Stampers but not the other. So they used old file tape and had another reproduced. This would explain the different matrix number, sound etc. Henry also had them produced at the same pressing plant etc where he still had an account. Henry never got paid. Sound familiar? Well take care mate Regards gabby ps when Simon needed more copies he went to Bobby Sanders. Also be careful of the white test pressings that surfaced years ago. Wonder if Bobby got paid? I bet he did. No fool Bobby. Edited April 9, 2012 by gabby
dthedrug Posted April 10, 2012 Posted April 10, 2012 HI ALL .... Well I thought I was clued up about this record, can I assume there are no white label DEMOS of this? Value of this gem is above the £1k mark, since the proper A side got played way back now? how often had you played that side in the 70s?? the SOULTOWN BOOT, wa I got from Carlow's in Bedford,it's as we all no part of a small run of classics, put out by SS late 72, And as I have mentioned before the #1 DJ at the DIVE BAR, HITCHIN. Mr BILLY MAC, had the SWEETS on original SOULTOWN and both myself & Mick tried to convince him it was one of Simon's, The TRIPS 1st SOUNDVILLE REISSUE was imported at the very end of 1975 in a small batch, any other copies that come out, I have no idea or interest come to that, also I looked at the popsike ones, and I was right about the yellow SOUNDVILLE copies being just like the reissue, which are clearly to my eyes better quality to most of the cheaper ones, so I have to ask was there a later SOUNDVILLE PRESSING? than the 1975 reissue?? and I am now of the opinion that the reissue is worth a bit more after seeing popsike, also the Orange copies I think come from Soul Bowl or should I say John had those on his list?? and my reissue has the letter I instead of the H this has not been mentioned?? and I agree where is Ranking Johnny Boy when he is needed???? DAVE 42 YEARS ON FROM "MY EARS ARE ALL RIGHT" I n I baby one.??
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