Roburt Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 Lorraine, I have been messing about with old Billboard mags today & made up this montage from Soul 45 details included in the mag dated 15th October 1966. There were a load of good singles released that week (or at least reviewed in Billboard that week). Amongst them were two put out by RCA, I would guess with little or no promo effort behind them. ..... Kenny Carter -- Don't Go ... .... .... RCA 8970 Lorraine Chandler -- She Don't Want You RCA 8980 Even though there is a gap of 9 singles between these 2 releases, it seems they escaped on the same day (guess RCA were issuing about 20 - 25 x 45's each week back then across all music types). Did either 45 get any push by RCA & if not, how did that make you feel (you may not know in relation to Kenny's 45) ? Did your 45 sell well in Detroit, coz you were known there ? If you had been in control of the release dates, would YOU have put them out together ? RCA weren't strong in the soul field back then (sales wise), so it seems daft to provide 'opposition' for their own product. RCA wouldn't set up a dedicated promo team for their soul releases but left the Pop Dept guys to push this stuff. How did that make you feel (after all most on the Pop side at RCA would have 'no feel' for such releases). Which tracks did you like best, your own recordings or those tracks you cut on 'others' (in general, I'm not asking about this 45 in particular)? ... I have more questions, but for now, I think that's more than enough for you to grapple with. ............... CHEERS
Roburt Posted April 2, 2012 Author Posted April 2, 2012 RCA gets hip to the 'Detroit Sound' .............
Dave Pinch Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 note in the bottom corner the steinways on oliver issued same week
Mrtag Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 Lorraine, I have been messing about with old Billboard mags today & made up this montage from Soul 45 details included in the mag dated 15th October 1966. There were a load of good singles released that week (or at least reviewed in Billboard that week). Amongst them were two put out by RCA, I would guess with little or no promo effort behind them. ..... Kenny Carter -- Don't Go ... .... .... RCA 8970 Lorraine Chandler -- She Don't Want You RCA 8980 Even though there is a gap of 9 singles between these 2 releases, it seems they escaped on the same day (guess RCA were issuing about 20 - 25 x 45's each week back then across all music types). Did either 45 get any push by RCA & if not, how did that make you feel (you may not know in relation to Kenny's 45) ? Did your 45 sell well in Detroit, coz you were known there ? If you had been in control of the release dates, would YOU have put them out together ? RCA weren't strong in the soul field back then (sales wise), so it seems daft to provide 'opposition' for their own product. RCA wouldn't set up a dedicated promo team for their soul releases but left the Pop Dept guys to push this stuff. How did that make you feel (after all most on the Pop side at RCA would have 'no feel' for such releases). Which tracks did you like best, your own recordings or those tracks you cut on 'others' (in general, I'm not asking about this 45 in particular)? ... I have more questions, but for now, I think that's more than enough for you to grapple with. ............... CHEERS Great double sider from the Themes also in there!!
lorchand Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 Lorraine, I have been messing about with old Billboard mags today & made up this montage from Soul 45 details included in the mag dated 15th October 1966. There were a load of good singles released that week (or at least reviewed in Billboard that week). Amongst them were two put out by RCA, I would guess with little or no promo effort behind them. ..... Kenny Carter -- Don't Go ... .... .... RCA 8970 Lorraine Chandler -- She Don't Want You RCA 8980 Even though there is a gap of 9 singles between these 2 releases, it seems they escaped on the same day (guess RCA were issuing about 20 - 25 x 45's each week back then across all music types). Did either 45 get any push by RCA & if not, how did that make you feel (you may not know in relation to Kenny's 45) ? Did your 45 sell well in Detroit, coz you were known there ? If you had been in control of the release dates, would YOU have put them out together ? RCA weren't strong in the soul field back then (sales wise), so it seems daft to provide 'opposition' for their own product. RCA wouldn't set up a dedicated promo team for their soul releases but left the Pop Dept guys to push this stuff. How did that make you feel (after all most on the Pop side at RCA would have 'no feel' for such releases). Which tracks did you like best, your own recordings or those tracks you cut on 'others' (in general, I'm not asking about this 45 in particular)? ... I have more questions, but for now, I think that's more than enough for you to grapple with. ............... CHEERS Dear Roburt, Don't think me rude, but I'm going to direct you to All About Soul Forum, New Member-Lorraine Chandler (Page 9) where everyone asked me everything. If you still don't feel your question has been addressed, contact me again. I am enjoying your threads here. Lorraine 1
Roburt Posted April 3, 2012 Author Posted April 3, 2012 (edited) Cheers Lorraine. Yes after plowing through the 11 pages (!!!) of your introduction thread, you do seem to have just about answered my questions. Mind you, the answers aren't what I was after but are all I can expect seeing as you were so young back then (when the RCA deal was done). Such a young lady (you can only have been 12 or 13 surely !!! as you're not that old yet) would have been more interested in hearing the cut on the radio, singing the song at gigs and wouldn't have been bothered about record company policies / back room management decisions, etc. It was only MUCH later when you yourself were a top record executive, that release dates, promotional tactics, distribution issues, etc. would become of everyday interest to you. AND, the 45 obviously was popular back in Detroit or RCA wouldn't have come knocking at Jack's door looking for a deal. Edited April 3, 2012 by Roburt
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