Guest Ian 1930 Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Apologies if this has been done before but I've found a copy of 'Cause You're Mine' on e-Bay but I'm not sure it's an original. Obvious differences are a different shade of yellow, the addition of the word 'STEREO' above the '45 RPM ' on the left hand side and the 'Epic marca reg' etc in lower case rather than upper case. I don't want to spend £100 on a boot so could anyone assure me that what I've seen is an original but just a different press? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Looks safe as houses to me.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Autumnstoned Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Not booted according to JM's guide. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Not booted according to JM's guide. Was reissued on CSP, but I think there was a boot done six or seven years ago. Might be wrong. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
trog Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) Was reissued on CSP, but I think there was a boot done six or seven years ago. Might be wrong. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VIBRATIONS-CAUSE-YOUR-MINE-OKEH-/290671599024?pt=UK_Records&hash=item43ad609db0 I had one like this a few years ago and it was dreadful sound quality...hissed all the way through. Edited March 31, 2012 by trog Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest trickbag Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 US ORIGINAL The vibrations cause your mine northern soul 45 (7" vinyl) Start Time: 02/11/2012 End Time: 02/18/2012 Seller Feedback: 13 Buyer Feedback: 65 End Price: $245.13 USD Number of Bids: 14 collectors frenzy ricky. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 issued in 69 hense the mono and stereo copies Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dylan Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 one of those records I sold for about 40 quid thinking i'd easily get another for a tenner. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mick Sway Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Apologies if this has been done before but I've found a copy of 'Cause You're Mine' on e-Bay but I'm not sure it's an original. Obvious differences are a different shade of yellow, the addition of the word 'STEREO' above the '45 RPM ' on the left hand side and the 'Epic marca reg' etc in lower case rather than upper case. I don't want to spend £100 on a boot so could anyone assure me that what I've seen is an original but just a different press? Please read this from Select 45 : Don't know how accurate it is, but it starts: "Buying Vinyl today, you really do need to be sure you are actually buying the Original" Original Pressings Info Original Pressings Info "Stereo added to a label of older music often means a 70s press especially if the music is playing in Mono, look at your yellow Epic copy of Vibrations 'Cause You're Mine' with Stereo added & then you'll see it's an early 70s press, not the 1969 one which had narrower & smaller typeface! Stereo 45s do exist from 1958, but will be easily proved originals from other factors." Mick Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Ian 1930 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Thanks for the replies. I've decided to wait until a 1969 (mono) press comes up for sale rather than buy the stereo version. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest HALIFAXFREESOUL Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 This here's my baby! Loverly!!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 I don't have books with me that will enable me to check, but the matrix number of the 'stereo stock copy' would start with JSS rather than JSP if the single had been issued in stereo originally (which it wasn't). Columbia/Epic did not start releasing commercial 45s in stereo until well into 1970 (although I believe that mono/stereo demos of certain titles might have already been dropped into the market in '69). Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gogs Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 I don't have books with me that will enable me to check, but the matrix number of the 'stereo stock copy' would start with JSS rather than JSP if the single had been issued in stereo originally (which it wasn't). Columbia/Epic did not start releasing commercial 45s in stereo until well into 1970 (although I believe that mono/stereo demos of certain titles might have already been dropped into the market in '69). I take it you mean zsp? my stereo copy has stamped matrix zsp139197-1h so that will be a 70's re-issue? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 I take it you mean zsp? my stereo copy has stamped matrix zsp139197-1h so that will be a 70's re-issue? No, I mean ZSS - that is to say, if 'Cause You're Mine' had been issued in stereo originally, the matrix number would have started with those three letters. ZSP was Columbia's mono matrix designation. I'm not sure why the 70's repress would have the ZSP prefix. Is it actually IN stereo or does it just say stereo on the label? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Please read this from Select 45 : Don't know how accurate it is, but it starts: "Buying Vinyl today, you really do need to be sure you are actually buying the Original" Original Pressings Info Original Pressings Info "Stereo added to a label of older music often means a 70s press especially if the music is playing in Mono, look at your yellow Epic copy of Vibrations 'Cause You're Mine' with Stereo added & then you'll see it's an early 70s press, not the 1969 one which had narrower & smaller typeface! Stereo 45s do exist from 1958, but will be easily proved originals from other factors." Mick This is an interesting website, thanks for posting. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gogs Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 (edited) No, I mean ZSS - that is to say, if 'Cause You're Mine' had been issued in stereo originally, the matrix number would have started with those three letters. ZSP was Columbia's mono matrix designation. I'm not sure why the 70's repress would have the ZSP prefix. Is it actually IN stereo or does it just say stereo on the label? States stereo on the label but plays in mono Edited April 3, 2012 by Gogs Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 If anyone wants to hear CYM in stereo (and a longer version of it to boot!) it's available on the Vibrations Okeh/Epic CD that I put to gether on Kent a few years back... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
sir cumference Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 If anyone wants to hear CYM in stereo (and a longer version of it to boot!) it's available on the Vibrations Okeh/Epic CD that I put to gether on Kent a few years back... Shouldn`t this be in the "Records that go on and on and on" thread. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ernie Andrews Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Buy it on UK direction LP - NO qualms of a boot there and you can play it out from it because its the only original UK issue 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 There is no way on earth that a yellow Epic "Cause You're Mine" can be classed as a reissue. That's like saying a record is a second issue because they changed the typeface for it's second pressing run. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Vynilhound Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Hi Pete, I took the exact same copy to JM's thinking it was a boot/ re issiue and he very kindly pointed out that it was the genuine article. Cheers Andy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest killiesoul Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Thanks for that ! now i know i bought the genuine article Cheers Eric Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gogs Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Ok have we all decided that my "stereo" label that has a proper zsp matrix stamped in, but plays in mono is an original? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Ok have we all decided that my "stereo" label that has a proper zsp matrix stamped in, but plays in mono is an original? Well, I certainly haven't - an original reissue maybe, but not an original per se. As I said before, Columbia and their associated labels were not yet issuing stereo 45s when CYM came out, so there is no reason that the word stereo would appear on the label of this or indeed any of their 45s, whether by accident or design, It may not be a bootleg, but it's certainly some kind of re-press. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
steve Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I think all those that came out on CSP were proper releases, Lynne Randell, French Fries, The Poppies etc etc Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris L Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 I've had about 5 or 6 of these over the years never noticed one with "STEREO" on it. It's probably more "original" that the 2nd pressing of Jackie Lee - Darkest days. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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