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is that Kimo and some of his crew in the pics ?

pete n' susan

Sorry dont know Kimo, but the chappie in the red shirt "getting on down" is the infamouse George Gell Dj/Collector extrodinaire. He wouldnt be out of place djing any place, anywhere in the world ,amazing collection with great taste and enthusiasm.

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Hi I'm 22 and LOVE Northern soul!! My mates and I love attending soul do's and allnighters and will be Keeping the faith for a loong while after you old timers have popped your clogs lol We Range from 14 - 25 and were always meeting people our age up and down the country and aroubd the world. Its fantastic to know that when the ledgends that made the scene are sadly no longer with us, there'll still be plenty of us throwing ourselves about to fantastic mucic :D

KTF

Great to hear that , and long may you lot love it

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Sorry dont know Kimo, but the chappie in the red shirt "getting on down" is the infamouse George Gell Dj/Collector extrodinaire. He wouldnt be out of place djing any place, anywhere in the world ,amazing collection with great taste and enthusiasm.

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I was going to ask if that was George. He absolutely made my weekend when we were there. Watching him let go to the music was fantastic and what it's all about for me!

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There are 16 clips by this person All showing young kids doing what we used to do

Fantastic to see that Northern Soul will live on after us

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most people I speak to who aren't involved in the scene just know about 10 or 20 records if the conversation gets onto northern and they are realy bad examples.

outside the scene the awareness is very poor and the whole ethos of what it should be about gets missed.

just IMO offcourse......

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I've always wondered why people worry so much about the lack of young people on the current scene(s).  Maybe it's the realisation that people are getting old, or the worry that the scene they know and love won't carry on in the same way that it currently is.

I'm also not convinced that youth in the UK with enter the current scene in abundance and carry the torch that people keep hoping.  There will always be youngsters entering the scene, but I think those are the exceptions rather than the rule.

I do think that club nights outside the UK don't have the baggage there is here and are evolving in their own way even though there's cross pollination with DJ's and punters.

Alternative dance scenes are primarily youth driven, where people look for an alternative to the current mainstream club culture and it's the success and longevity of the Northern scene that I think leads its many issues.

Most alternative dance scenes get popular for a while and then lose favour and generally disappear from the mainstream (Rock & Roll/Mod/Rare Groove/(Acid) Jazz/2-Step/Jazz-Funk), only to rise again with a different set of people at the helm with fresh ideas and this hasn't happened to Northern Soul.  It's carried on albeit fractured and fragmented, but with essentially the same people who were around in the 70's/80's with all the baggage that's built up over the last 40 years.  Also, probably the biggest factor is that young people don't like clubbing with their Mum and Dad let alone their Nan or Granddad, it's just un-cool.  Today's good club DJ's are slick showmen who have honed their craft, and young people wont put up with bad-cuing and mumbling over the microphone which the Northern scene does suffer from.  Venues also have to sharpen-up to attract youth, going to a working mans club in the middle of nowhere is not going to attract people, whereas a slick and trendy club in a city centre is where any growth will be.

I think the scene will come to a natural end in about 10-15 years time, when people do die or become too old travel miles to attend venues, with the general Niter scene being one the first things to go.  One or two corner-stone niters will remain, leaving soul nights and weekenders to carry on and then for them to eventually cease.  Record prices will crash as no-one wants them, but that's the general rule of supply and demand with any commodity.

The appreciation of Soul will never completely die and maybe it will morph in a similar scene to the blues scene where old men periodically meet in a room above a pub showing off their rare 78's to each other.  Scene wise it will rise again, maybe when future club DJ's look to gain an edge over their rivals and maybe play something different to get them noticed and turn heads and so the cycle begins again.

So I don't think we should worry about a lack of youth attendance and just enjoy it for what its, (hopefully) a good night out.

I disagree at the tender age of 14 I have lots of friends (maybe 100+) under 30 that I have met via Northern Soul so I think we needn't worry! But mind you if record prices will crash would do me a favor I spend a bloody fortune on records!

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Winnie the magic of northern soul will always live on. I can safely say Northern Soul has worked its magic on at least 100+ under 30's. I will never forget the my first all-niter at nuneaton, I walked in the doors, payed my money, walked up those stairs, passed the record stall, opened those doors and it was magical! The DJ was playing Major Lance - You Don't Want Me No More I can hear it now "Sorry, you don't treat me like you used to, you say you found somebody else" and then the backing vocalists beautifully echoed Major Lance, the feeling was indescribable, the song was heartbreakingly sad yet magnificently uplifting,¯»¿ all at once. I felt this beautiful rush with no unwanted side effects. I remember I was on the dancefloor with Elaine Sawtez dancing to Rita & The Tiaras - Gone With The Wind, the record ripped my heart out,¯»¿ showed it to me, and then sliced it into a thousands pieces before my eyes, I was singing and dancing my life away, when she sang the line "I give up everything the love of my life" I stood there frozen, then a chill came down my back and I ran to the dancefloor, pure magic and I have never looked back! x

It must be nice to be 14. I hope the love stays with you buddy :thumbsup:

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The best thing the "God Fathers of the scene" could do is keep well clear, and let them get on with it without outside influence - especially any DJ above 30.

Controversial to some, I know.

Fook me, i'm 32 ! Am i over the hill already ????

Clint

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Winnie the magic of northern soul will always live on. I can safely say Northern Soul has worked its magic on at least 100+ under 30's. I will never forget the my first all-niter at nuneaton, I walked in the doors, payed my money, walked up those stairs, passed the record stall, opened those doors and it was magical! The DJ was playing Major Lance - You Don't Want Me No More I can hear it now "Sorry, you don't treat me like you used to, you say you found somebody else" and then the backing vocalists beautifully echoed Major Lance, the feeling was indescribable, the song was heartbreakingly sad yet magnificently uplifting,¯»¿ all at once. I felt this beautiful rush with no unwanted side effects. I remember I was on the dancefloor with Elaine Sawtez dancing to Rita & The Tiaras - Gone With The Wind, the record ripped my heart out,¯»¿ showed it to me, and then sliced it into a thousands pieces before my eyes, I was singing and dancing my life away, when she sang the line "I give up everything the love of my life" I stood there frozen, then a chill came down my back and I ran to the dancefloor, pure magic and I have never looked back! x

What a joy to read this my freind... There aint nothing like that feeling..

Respect... :hatsoff2:

A good point by Pikey with regards to the young crew doing there own thing, i agree on the no outside influence, just do your own thing... Thats fine if they have the numbers, i know plenty but they are spread far and wide, some cross promotions BY YOUNG PROMOTERS maybe to bring them all together..

The younger end and older mix free and easy at our events, we encourage young collector/ djs to play alongside the older brigade and it seems to work fine and long may it last... The key is that the older crowd are still very young at heart :D , not ready for the pipe and slippers just yet!

My version of younger lot are early 20s to early 30s, the teenage crowd coming through is a different thing i guess.. When i was 18 i thought anybody over 25 was fossil :lol: .. The very young crowd should and maybe need to just do what they wanna do....

A good topic indeed...

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The music's that good that it will pretty much never be ignored. When the future teenagers of the day get fed-up with hearing their parent's Drum & Bass/Dubstep/Techno/House compilations, they'll rebel and look for real music, real tunes, real musicians and real records. And they'll find Northern Soul.

Ian D :D

Like that Ian :thumbsup:

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Both my kids, aged 20 and 18, having started off coming out with us now go to soul nights independently of me and Mrs S. My lad's introduced all his Uni mates to proper music at Move On Up at the HiFi Club in Leeds. My daughter will no doubt find somewhere similar (or start her own) when she goes to Uni in the autumn. They love the music, although they aren't enormously enamoured with "the scene". They reckon some of the grown ups are not as friendly as they think they are.

My Mrs teaches in Wigan and lots of her pupils are regulars at soul nights locally. She uses soul instrumentals as backing tracks for particular exercises / tasks and half of them know 'em and love 'em and half of them moan because it's what their parents listen to. One or two have been winning dancing competitions.

That's how I have always felt and still do...........I have never been comfortable with the drug culture, and the effect it has on people's behaviour. There's a very dark under current hiding under the friendly exterior, and it's still there unfortunately. Maybe the young ones don't like it?

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I'm young ''ish'' and it's not pretty to see people at a soul night chewing their faces off and sweating like a mo-fo becuase of gear, although this doesn't apply to ''Old-uns'' seen plenty of youngsters on it too.

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That's how I have always felt and still do...........I have never been comfortable with the drug culture, and the effect it has on people's behaviour. There's a very dark under current hiding under the friendly exterior, and it's still there unfortunately. Maybe the young ones don't like it?

most underground music scenes that are a bit edgy or underground have a drug culture at the heart of them. For some people its part of the appeal and what sets them apart from the more regular drinking based nights out.

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Winnie the magic of northern soul will always live on. I can safely say Northern Soul has worked its magic on at least 100+ under 30's. I will never forget the my first all-niter at nuneaton, I walked in the doors, payed my money, walked up those stairs, passed the record stall, opened those doors and it was magical! The DJ was playing Major Lance - You Don't Want Me No More I can hear it now "Sorry, you don't treat me like you used to, you say you found somebody else" and then the backing vocalists beautifully echoed Major Lance, the feeling was indescribable, the song was heartbreakingly sad yet magnificently uplifting,¯»¿ all at once. I felt this beautiful rush with no unwanted side effects. I remember I was on the dancefloor with Elaine Sawtez dancing to Rita & The Tiaras - Gone With The Wind, the record ripped my heart out,¯»¿ showed it to me, and then sliced it into a thousands pieces before my eyes, I was singing and dancing my life away, when she sang the line "I give up everything the love of my life" I stood there frozen, then a chill came down my back and I ran to the dancefloor, pure magic and I have never looked back! x

There was I getting ready to go into grumpy old bloke mode ( kids on the scene why dont they find their own etc ) then I read this succint and to the point , you,ve got it mate :hatsoff2:

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I'm not that young anymore (28), but I have been collecting and DJing rare/northern soul since I was about 23. The youngest member of our crew(windy city soul club) is only like 22, and I've been sneaking him into bars since he was about 17-18 to DJ northern with me.

Almost every northern/rare ( I use the term rare because I'm in the states) soul DJ that I know is young. In the States the scene is still rather small...so we take frequent trips to other states to spin. once drove 4000 miles in a weekend to dj in seattle.

moral of the story. almost everyone involved in the states is a young. Have always wondered if prices would go down when the old lot pass off, but i really dont see that happening. record prices will more like go up.

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I'm not that young anymore (28), but I have been collecting and DJing rare/northern soul since I was about 23. The youngest member of our crew(windy city soul club) is only like 22, and I've been sneaking him into bars since he was about 17-18 to DJ northern with me.

Almost every northern/rare ( I use the term rare because I'm in the states) soul DJ that I know is young. In the States the scene is still rather small...so we take frequent trips to other states to spin. once drove 4000 miles in a weekend to dj in seattle.

its very easy for many over here, the uk, to get entwingned in the decline and aging of the northern scene, its great to hear international veiws that contradict this perspective.

moral of the story. almost everyone involved in the states is a young. Have always wondered if prices would go down when the old lot pass off, but i really dont see that happening. record prices will more like go up.

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Am going to Soul on the Pier in Bournemouth tonight and taking my three 20 something daughters along so it will be interesting to see how they react. As kids they always loved and sang along to plenty of Soul music on my car radio but have never been to a Northern Soul do :-)

Judging by many of the comments on this thread my guess is that whilst the scene may not be as big in 10-15 years time, it will do more than survive as the music still has the power to capture the hearts of the young.

Also if I was a betting man, I would put a big wedge on the possibility that Elaine Constantines film could lead to a huge interest from young people.

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I was just wondering if when us lot depart this mortal coil, is that it for northern soul and our music , or is there a younger generation of soulies out there , waiting to carry it on into the future ?

i don't go to any gigs now so i can't say , but the last soul nights i went to there was only one or two younger kids in attendance , but not many

This mortal coil, Yeah I digress, but that looks like a direct quote from Elite ??????

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I was just wondering if when us lot depart this mortal coil, is that it for northern soul and our music , or is there a younger generation of soulies out there , waiting to carry it on into the future ?

i don't go to any gigs now so i can't say , but the last soul nights i went to there was only one or two younger kids in attendance , but not many

All out their trees on Skunk, not condusive to enjoying the sounds we listen to

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i have two daughters 18 ^ 21, they both love soul ,,,,,they had no choice they were dragged up with it..now when i go to a soul do they come with me, and know every word to most tunes, am i proud...THE HELL I AM xxxxx go tell the world girls xx

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i have two daughters 18 ^ 21, they both love soul ,,,,,they had no choice they were dragged up with it..now when i go to a soul do they come with me, and know every word to most tunes, am i proud...THE HELL I AM xxxxx go tell the world girls xx

My 5yr old lad kept singing the chorus of Buddy Ace, This Little Love Of Mine for a while. SOUL for all ages.

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My lad winning the Skegness Soul Weekender dance competition 2005 ( from about 0.30 seconds) when he was 15. He was totally into the scene at that time; Djing around and about, dancing skills were spot on - learned from Wigan Youtube clips mainly, So all the acrobatics were just like being there, so to speak; he also had the start of his own record collection. He was generally on his own though with us (his parents) and the good people of the scene who took him under their wings! He was often seen with Sam Evans and Carl Piper used to teach him a few tricks - I think he may have done a DJ spot for Yocky as well if my memory serves. He was an extra on the Soul Boy film too. However when girls, mates, college, work and the pull of being with his `own kind` took hold he stopped his involvement. He is 22 now, will still sing along to the sounds when he hears us play them at home and will have a bit of a jig but to be honest if he was still hanging around with us at Northern events, without involvement in his own, age related activities I would be very worried!

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My lad winning the Skegness Soul Weekender dance competition 2005 ( from about 0.30 seconds) when he was 15. He was totally into the scene at that time; Djing around and about, dancing skills were spot on - learned from Wigan Youtube clips mainly, So all the acrobatics were just like being there, so to speak; he also had the start of his own record collection. He was generally on his own though with us (his parents) and the good people of the scene who took him under their wings! He was often seen with Sam Evans and Carl Piper used to teach him a few tricks - I think he may have done a DJ spot for Yocky as well if my memory serves. He was an extra on the Soul Boy film too. However when girls, mates, college, work and the pull of being with his `own kind` took hold he stopped his involvement. He is 22 now, will still sing along to the sounds when he hears us play them at home and will have a bit of a jig but to be honest if he was still hanging around with us at Northern events, without involvement in his own, age related activities I would be very worried!

Sharon

DONT KNOW HOW TO POST THE YOUTUBE CLIP- SORRY!!!!! Trust me it is there!

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There's a few around. Love there to be more and who know's we could be on the edge of a mini revival of some sort. What I do know is this lot are as passionate about the scene as we were both back in the day and now.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/souled_on_soul/sets/72157629576288417/

Some of the Young Soulies That Attend our Dance Sessions at Rumworth Hall in Bolton Most Thursdays ................ IMiHO We have provided an enviroment Where youngsters can socialise and discuss aspects of northern soul with other youngsters ... " A la youth club culture "

Build it and they will come ...... " Our time is in its twilight ...... Its gonna be down to them to carry the Torch "

Young souls ... Coming to an event near you ........ lol

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Winnie the magic of northern soul will always live on. I can safely say Northern Soul has worked its magic on at least 100+ under 30's. I will never forget the my first all-niter at nuneaton, I walked in the doors, payed my money, walked up those stairs, passed the record stall, opened those doors and it was magical! The DJ was playing Major Lance - You Don't Want Me No More I can hear it now "Sorry, you don't treat me like you used to, you say you found somebody else" and then the backing vocalists beautifully echoed Major Lance, the feeling was indescribable, the song was heartbreakingly sad yet magnificently uplifting,¯»¿ all at once. I felt this beautiful rush with no unwanted side effects. I remember I was on the dancefloor with Elaine Sawtez dancing to Rita & The Tiaras - Gone With The Wind, the record ripped my heart out,¯»¿ showed it to me, and then sliced it into a thousands pieces before my eyes, I was singing and dancing my life away, when she sang the line "I give up everything the love of my life" I stood there frozen, then a chill came down my back and I ran to the dancefloor, pure magic and I have never looked back! x

This post is what its all about...... Northern soul is not the exclusive property of aged..... having met Tom, I can honestly say he is A Soulie and has as much passion and love for the music as any soulie i have ever met. ......... ITS YOUR TIME NOW........ Respect Young Bro ..... Brent.

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Not that I'm promoting nowadays so it's not really my shout - but personally I'd be more than happy (on the maddingly rare occasions I get the time to go out) to pay a premium on door charges to finance a Soul Fans/Students under 25 half price concession.

I remember it used be the norm to take collections to pay skint youngsters' entry into the Fleet in the early 80s when I first started going regularly.

Dx

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below is a picture from our hip cty soul club night in january..it was the farewell picture for the girl in the blue dress in the first line as she went to live in new york the following monday and presents some of our younger crowd...photo was shot at 6.30 am in the morning after one heating allnighter and as you can see...I am afraid I am the oldest LOL

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NB the blond girl in the first line (who cant be older than start of her twenties) uses to sing along most of the tunes we play when dancing. they dont know what it is all about ? far from it :thumbsup: !

Mark, is that melisser?

Think most of those in that picture were at hamburg weekender. And probably all other events across Europe!! I need to get over for a hip city do mate for sure

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Mark, is that melisser?

Think most of those in that picture were at hamburg weekender. And probably all other events across Europe!! I need to get over for a hip city do mate for sure

yes, its her...you are right, many of the Berlin Soulies do travel these days to allnighters, weekenders and nighters across the country. which is great really. would be great to see you at a Hip City in the near future...maybe you fancy coimng over for our big 22nd annivesary weekender july 1th & 14th already (bump, bump ;) ?!

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yes, its her...you are right, many of the Berlin Soulies do travel these days to allnighters, weekenders and nighters across the country. which is great really. would be great to see you at a Hip City in the near future...maybe you fancy coimng over for our big 22nd annivesary weekender july 1th & 14th already (bump, bump ;) ?!

Hi Marc,

just a quick post from me to say that since our step into the European niters and weekenders over ten years ago the youngsters we have met over the years there

have truly been responsible for injecting a renewed vigor and I would like to think that is happening here too. :hatsoff2:

If you have never ventured over to the continent, and thinking about it I would start by checking out flights to Berlin pronto, and PM Marc for more info...........

you won't be disappointed very knowledgeable enthusiastic crowd and great ovo played. :yes:

Have fun wherever you go, :thumbup:

Karen xxx

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This post is what its all about...... Northern soul is not the exclusive property of aged..... having met Tom, I can honestly say he is A Soulie and has as much passion and love for the music as any soulie i have ever met. ......... ITS YOUR TIME NOW........ Respect Young Bro ..... Brent.

Thanks Brent - Much appreciated :)

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