snooky Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 rare,just been put up for sale on J Manships what will this go for???/ snooky
boba Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 It will go for one bid increment higher than the second highest bid. 3
snooky Posted March 2, 2012 Author Posted March 2, 2012 well done go to the top of the class.... maybe someone will make a good suggestion on the next post other than the obvious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! snooky
NEV Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 well done go to the top of the class.... maybe someone will make a good suggestion on the next post other than the obvious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! snooky £4k + depending on condition
Guest trickbag Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 4. $4,550 " Two Plus Two, "I'm Sure" / "Look Around," 45. The seller advertised this as a "very rare Northern Soul 45" "and that was pretty much the end of the information. Released on the Velgo label (VO 003) in 1966, the record graded at VG ricky.
NEV Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 4. $4,550 " Two Plus Two, "I'm Sure" / "Look Around," 45. The seller advertised this as a "very rare Northern Soul 45" "and that was pretty much the end of the information. Released on the Velgo label (VO 003) in 1966, the record graded at VG ricky. https://www.popsike.com/Two-Plus-Two-NORTHERN-SOUL-45-VELGO-003-Im-Sure-Rare/4031926456.html
Guest uroffal Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 Is this the one Butch got? I remember following the last hour of it on ebay at the time, had never heard it but was listed with a sound file of both sides, think it went mental in last few seconds as was gonna bid!
Tony Smith Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 Is this the one Butch got? I remember following the last hour of it on ebay at the time, had never heard it but was listed with a sound file of both sides, think it went mental in last few seconds as was gonna bid! Don't think Butch is selling? That went for $6000
Guest trickbag Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 both sides can be herd on soul girls juke box,look around, is stormin northern, im sure, is messy,the record graded at VG++ (my mistake) nev its only worth what the last bidder is willing to pay,as far as im concerned its to much, as is the one on popsike.its rarity is its fortune. ricky.
Prophonics 2029 Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 i thought butch had had this for years before the ebay pricy one. i missed one on ebay at ..two k a while back.
Guest uroffal Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 Don't think Butch is selling? That went for $6000 Alright mate, hope you are well? Sorry should have quoted Nev's post, I meant was the one listed on Popsike from ebay in 2004 the one Butch bought (not that I've heard him play it as haven't heard him DJ since late '80s, but thought it was on his playlist (the 'I'm Sure' side) shortly after that one sold.
Chalky Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 Butch's wasn't as far as I am aware the one of ebay which some might consider pricey but for a record of less than 5 known copies with two great northern sides, is it really that pricey? Still only a handful of copies. It was known for some time to Butch through Greg Tormo who had what appears to be the first known copy. Mick H and Arthur later got copies.
Guest uroffal Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 Butch's wasn't as far as I am aware the one of ebay which some might consider pricey but for a record of less than 5 known copies with two great northern sides, is it really that pricey? Still only a handful of copies. It was known for some time to Butch through Greg Tormo who had what appears to be the first known copy. Mick H and Arthur later got copies. Ahh cheers Chalky must have been mistaken then. Agree two great northern sides - couldn't believe what I was hearing on the sound files listed on that old ebay auction copy!
Prophonics 2029 Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 its so similar to gwen owens when you play them back to back.
snooky Posted March 2, 2012 Author Posted March 2, 2012 Who first found & played it....& does a DJ white copy exist????
Supercorsa Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 The one on Ebay from 5 years or so ago (prob 2004 as previously mentioned), I remember watching that. Seller was recordmanx from Detroit, starting bid was something like $6.99. It was unusual for that seller to have soundclips on his listings and I thought I might be able to get another cheap little item from him, how wrong was I? I love it, but unless 6 numbers in the lotto unlikely to ever get a copy . Wasn't it booted a couple of years back?
NEV Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 Butch's wasn't as far as I am aware the one of ebay which some might consider pricey but for a record of less than 5 known copies with two great northern sides, is it really that pricey? Still only a handful of copies. It was known for some time to Butch through Greg Tormo who had what appears to be the first known copy. Mick H and Arthur later got copies. There's definitely one in the N.east ,but numbers wise ,this one probs doesnt add to the count, because it'll be one that has already been accounted for getting moved on
Chalky Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 Who first found & played it....& does a DJ white copy exist???? As far as I know Greg Tormo had the first "known" copy. Not to say there could have been and still could be other copies out there. I haven't sen a white demo.
George G Posted March 3, 2012 Posted March 3, 2012 At least three copies in the US. I'm pretty confident in saying there are more, 5-8 copies in the US is probably about right
Dave Pinch Posted March 4, 2012 Posted March 4, 2012 At least three copies in the US. I'm pretty confident in saying there are more, 5-8 copies in the US is probably about right see not rare at all lol ..seriously did this get booted a year or two back
Chalky Posted March 4, 2012 Posted March 4, 2012 see not rare at all lol ..seriously did this get booted a year or two back it's on a look-a-like press from Outta Sight. From their web site...
Johnmcc Posted March 4, 2012 Posted March 4, 2012 I understand that one of the Sussex Soul Club djs (Andy?) found one in the states, nice one .
Dave Abbott Posted March 4, 2012 Posted March 4, 2012 I would...cos it is a seriously rare but brilliant tune ...but i have thought that a couple of times in as many years...is it another or a circulator?
Prophonics 2029 Posted March 4, 2012 Posted March 4, 2012 Is there any info on the group, like was it velgos house band?
Tricky Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 Its always been known about! I,m sure it was listed in the Detroit Collectors list that was printed many years ago. I wonder if Keith Rylatt or Rob Foster ever had it coz they were the boys when i first started buying Detroit stuff. Trev
Premium Stuff Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 Its always been known about! I,m sure it was listed in the Detroit Collectors list that was printed many years ago. Trev Hi Trev Is was in neither Rod Dearlove's listings nor Chris Moores' that followed. Cheers Richard 1
Md Records Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 If you go into the Outta Sight records web site - in the "museum" there's a group line up and a picture Des Parker
boba Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 If you go into the Outta Sight records web site - in the "museum" there's a group line up and a picture Des Parker you have to click on "ephemera" once you get to "museum". there were a few groups called "two plus two". I guess this is probably the velgo group but it says "on loan to the museum by Neil Rushton". Maybe Neil can fill in more info about the group. Also, I wonder what the "two plus two" comes from. I know it wasn't two sets of brothers because there are three last names on the picture that are different. Were there two singers and two bandmembers? It definitely has more than two instruments on it.
boba Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 definitely the velgo group as one of the member's sons has commented a youtube video of the velgo record
Guest Posted March 10, 2012 Posted March 10, 2012 you have to click on "ephemera" once you get to "museum". there were a few groups called "two plus two". I guess this is probably the velgo group but it says "on loan to the museum by Neil Rushton". Maybe Neil can fill in more info about the group. Also, I wonder what the "two plus two" comes from. I know it wasn't two sets of brothers because there are three last names on the picture that are different. Were there two singers and two bandmembers? It definitely has more than two instruments on it. https://www.soulfulde...teve-Mancha.htm A legend on Northern Soul scene, Steve Mancha's recording career kicked off in 1962 with Wilburt Jackson as Two Friends - the duo making just one record. An aside: In '67, Wilburt joined Cyril Clark - a writer of the Four Hollidays' Markie 45 - in a group called Two Plus Two and cut a record for the Velgo label. could it be 'two friends' meeting two others? two plus two?
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