Prophonics 2029 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I thought that I read somewhere that Lorraine said she never sang this record/song although its credited to her on the UK issue. Just seen this so what is it? https://www.ebay.com/itm/rare-Soul-Acetate-45-LORRAINE-CHANDLER-love-you-baby-/310382010174 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I'd say it's Mr. Soussan's acetate featuring an unknown but excellent vocalist 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest MrC Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Think Pete may have hit on the correct answer. I saw that listing the other night and started to wonder too. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Julianb Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I'd say it's Mr. Soussan's acetate featuring an unknown but excellent vocalist Hi looked at this and compared the writing on acetate with Simon's - not the same! Mind you, he could be behind it but a 'technician' wrote the label. Julian Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Hi looked at this and compared the writing on acetate with Simon's - not the same! Mind you, he could be behind it but a 'technician' wrote the label. Julian I meant he produced it! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris L Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I'd say it's Mr. Soussan's acetate featuring an unknown but excellent vocalist Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris L Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Hi looked at this and compared the writing on acetate with Simon's - not the same! Mind you, he could be behind it but a 'technician' wrote the label. Julian Just like Simon not to leave any evidence around Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Julianb Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I meant he produced it! Hi Pete thought that was what I was implying. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Hi Pete thought that was what I was implying. No you said it wasn't his writing. I never said it was his writing. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kegsy Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 No you said it wasn't his writing. I never said it was his writing. Pete You have to make allowances for Julian he's at a very funny age you know. kegsy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Julianb Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I've said it before and I'll say it again "sod off Kegsy" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I've sent Loraine the link so hopefully she will say something soon. The address on the acetate tells you something wrong to me. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I've sent Loraine the link so hopefully she will say something soon. The address on the acetate tells you something wrong to me. Du you mean as evidence it's Soussan Chalky? If that's the case (as it probably is) I wonder why it isn't a 'DCT Recorders' acetate like most of his other Soul Fox Productions? Maybe he had a bad leg and couldn't walk to the other end of Sunset Boulevard... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Du you mean as evidence it's Soussan Chalky? If that's the case (as it probably is) I wonder why it isn't a 'DCT Recorders' acetate like most of his other Soul Fox Productions? Maybe he had a bad leg and couldn't walk to the other end of Sunset Boulevard... Not so much as evidence of involvement from Soussan although there's a strong case, just that I wouldn't have thought this would have got near Hollywood atb the time. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Design of the label looks very 70s. Wouldn't take much detective work to find out about the address on the label. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Design of the label looks very 70s. Wouldn't take much detective work to find out about the address on the label. That's what I meant Joe. 6255 as opposed to 6144 where the old fox used to get 'em done Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mick Holdsworth Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Simon Soussan used that label (with the Allen Zentz studio address), a lot on the mid-to-late 70's - all those Frank Beverly - She Loves Me (BK Markus) and Sally George - Misunderstanding acetates that were floating about were identical. I say "Sally George" but all the copies I ever saw had the artist scratched out and Sally George was the name attributed to them, either handwritten on the label, or the cover, so it was probably a second generation a made up name. Either way whoever Sally George was, it was probably the same artist as Love You Baby) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Who else has one of these? ive heard it before, its dreadful Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mick Holdsworth Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Who else has one of these? ive heard it before, its dreadful Well it was released on Black Magic in the UK, along side his Sharonettes Disco Duck stuff, so at the time I would imagine loads of people bought it (one of Lorraine's Real songs was on the B side - think it was "What Can I Do) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
kevinsoulman Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Who else has one of these? ive heard it before, its dreadful HUNDREDS OF US WHO THOUGHT IT WAS THE DOGS B====LL---CKS IN THE 70,S WHEN RELEASED ON BLACK MAGIC, NOW THE FLIP SIDE IS SOMETHING ELSE SURELY LORRAINE ON THAT ? KEV Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Well it was released on Black Magic in the UK, along side his Sharonettes Disco Duck stuff, so at the time I would imagine loads of people bought it (one of Lorraine's Real songs was on the B side - think it was "What Can I Do) I didn't even realise it was the same cut as the BM one In my defence though, I've not heard it in a lot of years... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wrongcrowd Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 The flip of the Black Magic 45 is actually Lorraine Chandler, so at least that side was genuine, thought doubt that Lorraine received any payment for it. The flip was probably intended to give the A side credibility, or more likely to save money on studio time. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Well it was released on Black Magic in the UK, along side his Sharonettes Disco Duck stuff, so at the time I would imagine loads of people bought it (one of Lorraine's Real songs was on the B side - think it was "What Can I Do) Cheers for that Mick Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Who else has one of these? ive heard it before, its dreadful How so, original backing track, good vocal... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tfk Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) How so, original backing track, good vocal... Eddie Parker and Lorraine Chandler "Love you baby" the great vocals of LC on this one... ktf tfk Edited February 29, 2012 by tfk Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
MrsWoodsrules Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I remember buying one thinking it was Lorraine on vocal when I handed my (pocket) money over. I know there are a lot of rose tinted specs about SS,, but IMO he was nothing but a w@nker, responsible for the demise of the quality soul at Wigan for one thing, luckily, not all dj's were in his pocket & some had principles. Aid. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dave Turner Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) Soussan deffo had links with Allen Zentz in the late 70s The Pattie Brooks albums were mastered at Allen Zentz Our Ms Brooks Love Shock - Pattie Brooks and the Simon Orchestra Google allen zentz soussan Edited February 28, 2012 by Dave Turner Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 How so, original backing track, good vocal... Sounds like some really bad karaoke version Pete...sorry Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
jocko Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Eddie Parker and Lorraine Chandler "Love you baby" the great vocals of LC areon this one... ktf tfk Forget that nice but forgettable track on the LP and fly directly to If You Must Go, which incredibly is not as good as the original (although have only heard original version a couple of times) but an absolute sublime piece of music that makes the world and all the life threatening problems in the world, like OVO or not, baggies or not, just fade away. Reminds me why Love this music! Oh and Mr TFK just answered your email, finally! 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
macca Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Lorraine talked about this on her thread, and wasn't impressed at all by all accounts. I remember not being impressed at the time, considering it a bit ersatz after being teethed on eddie parker's original. My opinion hasn't changed really. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest giant Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Just like Simon not to leave any evidence around :lol: Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 on acetate this is interesting as same type of acetate https://www.northerns...il.asp?id=15932 and there is a simon soussan connection as "find my way" was later featured in the film "thank god its friday" which also had simon soussan tracks Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ric-tic Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 mike i dont think thia acetate has anything to do with soussan they were done by chocolate city, i have one thay must have been tom moultons copy as hes written his opinion on the cover Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 (edited) mike i dont think thia acetate has anything to do with soussan they were done by chocolate city, i have one thay must have been tom moultons copy as hes written his opinion on the cover yep maybe not, but does sort of fit in with same time frame also am fairly sure ian d mentioned something about simon soussan and cameo/players or maybe writer johnny melfi in a past post and would guess simon soussan had something to do with its inclusion in film so a sort of connect to the "love you baby" showing on similar acetate.. maybe ? (reread earlier posts and see that other connections to acetate already been said so my post is a bit surplus) Edited March 2, 2012 by mike Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
lorchand Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Sorry it took so long to reply but I am just now seeing this. I would like to hear it because I did write a song call I Love You Baby which is different than the Love You Baby I wrote for Eddie Parker. I've sent and e-mail to Ady Croasdell and Jack Ashford in case it is the former because it was never released. And for the record, I only recorded the duet with Eddie on his song Love You Baby. Anything else that uses my name as the artist singing Love You Baby is a forgery. Lorraine 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wrongcrowd Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Here's Tony Cummings' review from Black Music, July '75.... shows that everyone was suckered into the Soussan story. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
lorchand Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) Here's Tony Cummings' review from Black Music, July '75.... shows that everyone was suckered into the Soussan story. Hi Wrongcrowd, Thanks for story. How horribly misleading. Having Eddie's picture there sort of validates his song, but I was the writer of the song, not the singer. Lorraine Edited March 9, 2012 by lorchand Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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