Four Voices-Our Love Is Getting Stronger-Voice

[arnie j]

hi folks,seen this for sale many times described as on the gold label(voice) ,im sure its been done on here a few times but i car remember,if done before please point me in the right direction please,is there another colour lable ? slightly different version/mix on other colour/label ? why state gold label ? (brilliant piece of soul music whatever its on !) thanks

jason

[Guest miff]

Original 1st issue is green , Second legit reissue is gold, and there a gold boot done a couple of years ago i belive

Edited February 22, 2012 by miff

[Only Dreaming]

Two brilliant sides. The legit gold reissue has a 'nashville' stamp in the deadwax. Expect to pay about £60.

Dave

[Supercorsa]

Like the initial poster I've always wondered about this. I've never seen GREEN listed, so how much for the green label original?

[Guest miff]

Like the initial poster I've always wondered about this. I've never seen GREEN listed, so how much for the green label original?

Pic off colletors frenzie Went $980 in sept 2010

[Julianb]

wasn't there one in sales recently at £1500?

Julian ( not selling mine!)

[boba]

Pic off colletors frenzie Went $980 in sept 2010

in popsike there are a lot of green copies. I haven't seen one for a while though and popsike reflects this.

[arnie j]

thanks for the info guys,that scan is the first ive ever saw/heard about a green one,its a huge credit to the people on this site that ive rarely(if ever !)seen a question go unanswered on here,thanks

jason

[boba]

thanks for the info guys,that scan is the first ive ever saw/heard about a green one,its a huge credit to the people on this site that ive rarely(if ever !)seen a question go unanswered on here,thanks

jason

I need to find a doowop record dealer that has this record to sell and the kreiter doowop guide. Both voice records are listed at $100

Edited February 23, 2012 by boba

[MrsWoodsrules]

One seller listing the gold label ones on ebay, either must have loads of copies or he never sells, cos the same guy has been listing them for years.

Wouldn't mind a green label, lovely record.

Aid.

[Jumpinjoan]

wasn't there one in sales recently at £1500?

Julian ( not selling mine!)

Yeah but that's too much. I'd say £800 to a grand and worth every penny!

[Kris Holmes]

One seller listing the gold label ones on ebay, either must have loads of copies or he never sells, cos the same guy has been listing them for years.

Wouldn't mind a green label, lovely record.

Aid.

yeah, he had them repressed with the original label owner's consent.

[boba]

yeah, he had them repressed with the original label owner's consent.

supposedly

[Kris Holmes]

supposedly

i wasn't gonna say anything.....

[Dennisoul]

Yeah but that's too much. I'd say £800 to a grand and worth every penny!

Correct miss L

[Dave Pinch]

the gold one were done about 12 years ago obviously for the northern soul market.. they are not real as in `they were made in the 60`s`

[Guest MrC]

the gold one were done about 12 years ago obviously for the northern soul market.. they are not real as in `they were made in the 60`s`

But obviously perfectly ok to play at an OVO event

[Dave Pinch]

But obviously perfectly ok to play at an OVO event

err no

[Guest MrC]

err no

Just the green one then.

Glad that's been cleared up

[Dave Pinch]

in popsike there are a lot of green copies. I haven't seen one for a while though and popsike reflects this.

only about 10 copies of the green 60`s orig on popsike bob....its probably been on a few more times tho and not showing on popike. theres lots of copies of their other 45 on the label and the gold reissue mind but not many originals in the grand scheme of things

[Dave Pinch]

Just the green one then.

Glad that's been cleared up

i wouldnt play it personally..its up to others if they want to. i dont have a problem with that

[Guest MrC]

i wouldnt play it personally..its up to others if they want to. i dont have a problem with that

I don't have either one Dave, and I'm all for OVO if I DJ anywhere, and as a punter at any 'serious' nights I go to.

I just got the impression that it was OK to play the gold one as it was a legit reissue and now went for over £50, but as I said, I don't have a copy at all, so not a problem I have to deal with personally.

[Jumpinjoan]

i wouldnt play it personally..its up to others if they want to. i dont have a problem with that

I do

[Jumpinjoan]

I do

I don't mean I play the gold one, green all the way from me

[Guest Perception]

Charging £40 to £60 for the Gold pressing/reissue from new, has always seemed like a ripoff to me!

It does not make any difference if the label owner allowed it or not, it is not the Original!

[Dave Pinch]

Charging £40 to £60 for the Gold pressing/reissue from new, has always seemed like a ripoff to me!

It does not make any difference if the label owner allowed it or not, it is not the Original!

yes and when they were done they were selling for over £100

[Dave Pinch]

Pic off colletors frenzie Went $980 in sept 2010

nearly $1000 dollars and it looks danced on....copies have gone for over £2000 on ebay. it seems to always fetch more for a clean copy on ebay than when JM auctions it which he has twice as i remember

[Jumpinjoan]

nearly $1000 dollars and it looks danced on....copies have gone for over £2000 on ebay. it seems to always fetch more for a clean copy on ebay than when JM auctions it which he has twice as i remember

Last one he had went for just under a grand if I remember rightly.

[Dave Pinch]

Last one he had went for just under a grand if I remember rightly.

it certainly did joan. john may have been a little dissapointed with the end auction result. if there was a 3rd party involved if it were me i would be pissed. i rate it at £1200 and i think its been held back by these gold represses just my opinion of course which dont mean shit

dave

[Jumpinjoan]

it certainly did joan. john may have been a little dissapointed with the end auction result. if there was a 3rd party involved if it were me i would be pissed. i rate it at £1200 and i think its been held back by these gold represses just my opinion of course which dont mean shit

dave

I rarely look at records these days cos I can't afford them (everybody say ahhhh) but I did keep an eye on this one only because I had just bought mine.

The fact that a record has been re-issued doesn't make it any less rare or special in my eyes. Re-issues are exactly that, be them legal or otherwise they are not originals and as such should not get played out. Buy what you want to listen to at home but please leave them there (she says waiting to be slaughtered)

[Dave Pinch]

I rarely look at records these days cos I can't afford them (everybody say ahhhh) but I did keep an eye on this one only because I had just bought mine.

The fact that a record has been re-issued doesn't make it any less rare or special in my eyes. Re-issues are exactly that, be them legal or otherwise they are not originals and as such should not get played out. Buy what you want to listen to at home but please leave them there (she says waiting to be slaughtered)

ooh you cant stop looking joan..ive had four parcels drop thru my door this week all orig 60.70`s vinyl and non over a fiver

[boba]

only about 10 copies of the green 60`s orig on popsike bob....its probably been on a few more times tho and not showing on popike. theres lots of copies of their other 45 on the label and the gold reissue mind but not many originals in the grand scheme of things

10 copies is a lot of copies to be on popsike. you won't find 10 copies of most low 3-figure records. obviously it's very rare now and hasn't come up for sale in a while, but I think it's more a combination of the sound and partial rarity that is driving up the price.

[boba]

Charging £40 to £60 for the Gold pressing/reissue from new, has always seemed like a ripoff to me!

It does not make any difference if the label owner allowed it or not, it is not the Original!

I think it does make a difference in the price (for example, if you license a record it will cost you more to make it and then sell it than a straight bootleg). Either way 40-60 pounds is too high for a reissue.

I assume you were not talking about what I said right now and that you mean the "Original" as some sort of special object that cannot be replaced by any copy.

[Dave Pinch]

10 copies is a lot of copies to be on popsike. you won't find 10 copies of most low 3-figure records. obviously it's very rare now and hasn't come up for sale in a while, but I think it's more a combination of the sound and partial rarity that is driving up the price.

always been an expensive record in the uk with northern soul fans bob. i paid £400 the best part of 20 years ago for it tho i was probably mugged

[boba]

always been an expensive record in the uk with northern soul fans bob. i paid £400 the best part of 20 years ago for it tho i was probably mugged

I believe you. You should have found a doowop seller to sell it to you...

[bri pinch]

if any of the doo wop guys did have an original green voice copy for sale at 100 bucks then i would imagine they would have a path wider than the cabin from the son of hickory hollers tramp leading up to them to buy it

[boba]

if any of the doo wop guys did have an original green voice copy for sale at 100 bucks then i would imagine they would have a path wider than the cabin from the son of hickory hollers tramp leading up to them to buy it

the US used to be a good place to get records

[Dave Pinch]

the US used to be a good place to get records

its still ok bob..but it was much better in the days before price guides and ebay took off

[Chalky]

Like others say around a grand for green label original issue. Always considered the gold ones as boots.

[Prophonics 2029]

Boot? Thought that a time issue on the last press from Nashville pressing plant- played as Timothy Wilson sort of proved it was a re-issue. Dunno.

[Chalky]

Dunno Tony but always had me doubts about them.

[Prophonics 2029]

Don't they sound different! In the mix.

Tried you tube and cant find one.

Edited February 26, 2012 by Prophonics 2029

[Dennisoul]

I rarely look at records these days cos I can't afford them (everybody say ahhhh) but I did keep an eye on this one only because I had just bought mine.

The fact that a record has been re-issued doesn't make it any less rare or special in my eyes. Re-issues are exactly that, be them legal or otherwise they are not originals and as such should not get played out. Buy what you want to listen to at home but please leave them there (she says waiting to be slaughtered)

Joan I bought the last one that went through JMs auction....I got it for £780.

Bit of good news story for me really, I bought my first copy from Rob Marriott at Allanton for £250...sold it about 8 years ago for £1000 and regretted it straight away....so was delighted when one came up on JMs auction....doubly delighted at the price of £780....so effectively this copy only cost me £30, in a round about collectors thinking type of way....happy days....it's a sparkler of a copy too.

The only thing being that the one I bought off Rob still had the original Sellotape marks on the vinyl from when it was covered up, so who ever has that copy has one of the first copys to be played out on the scene.

[Dave Pinch]

the gold ones were done from the original plates that popcorn had...whether popcorn did them or someone else got hold of the plates and did them i dont know. but i do know that the gold stamped copies didnt exist before 1998, besides the actual vinyl is different even tho the orig plate was used and the type face is new. no one had seen a gold copy before 1998 then suddenly they were everywhere selling for £150+. i think a green copy had already sold for four figures by that time...whatever..there is only one original issue ..the gold one is a re issue, 2nd issue..boot whatever you want to call it..but its not `real` mind you in these days where people pay good money for reissues ( see tempests or comedy sale threads) does paying £60 for a gold one seem too extreme

dave

[Prophonics 2029]

From the original stamped I think that price is ok cause it would be limited press in the tho's.

[KevH]

Joan I bought the last one that went through JMs auction....I got it for £780.

Bit of good news story for me really, I bought my first copy from Rob Marriott at Allanton for £250...sold it about 8 years ago for £1000 and regretted it straight away....so was delighted when one came up on JMs auction....doubly delighted at the price of £780....so effectively this copy only cost me £30, in a round about collectors thinking type of way....happy days....it's a sparkler of a copy too.

The only thing being that the one I bought off Rob still had the original Sellotape marks on the vinyl from when it was covered up, so who ever has that copy has one of the first copys to be played out on the scene.

Did Rob's copy come from Chris?

[Guest JIM BARRY]

the gold ones were done from the original plates that popcorn had...whether popcorn did them or someone else got hold of the plates and did them i dont know. but i do know that the gold stamped copies didnt exist before 1998, besides the actual vinyl is different even tho the orig plate was used and the type face is new. no one had seen a gold copy before 1998 then suddenly they were everywhere selling for £150+. i think a green copy had already sold for four figures by that time...whatever..there is only one original issue ..the gold one is a re issue, 2nd issue..boot whatever you want to call it..but its not `real` mind you in these days where people pay good money for reissues ( see tempests or comedy sale threads) does paying £60 for a gold one seem too extreme

dave

paid £70 for a gold one of jm when he first listed them....never played it in a set though...

[Chalky]

It was covered as Luther Ingram, just trying to remember who by....brain not functioning!

[Jumpinjoan]

Joan I bought the last one that went through JMs auction....I got it for £780.

Bit of good news story for me really, I bought my first copy from Rob Marriott at Allanton for £250...sold it about 8 years ago for £1000 and regretted it straight away....so was delighted when one came up on JMs auction....doubly delighted at the price of £780....so effectively this copy only cost me £30, in a round about collectors thinking type of way....happy days....it's a sparkler of a copy too.

The only thing being that the one I bought off Rob still had the original Sellotape marks on the vinyl from when it was covered up, so who ever has that copy has one of the first copys to be played out on the scene.

Hi Andy

There must have been one before that because it definitely went for a few quid short of a grand (950 or something like that). I remember because like I said, I'd just bought mine.

Without doubt one of the best tunes I own. Always play it last as I've nothing better to follow it with

[Prophonics 2029]

Nice tune n a Great wigan oldy tho it was ony played in the last few years by Dave raistrick. As you so rightly say chalky Luther intra c/u Tim Wilson was the Aspirations/Admirations.

Edited February 26, 2012 by Prophonics 2029