Guest giant Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 how dare you call me fat :lol: Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mace Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) Think that you have actually hit upon something here Mace. Me thinks on thinking on it, you are correct in assuming that it happens only at "oldies" events...........hmmmm No answer as to why this should be the case though. Well there's usually a lot more people at an oldies event...so the law of averages is stacked against them for starters. Plus such events get more media coverage, especially the larger events, so they will also attract more 'handbaggers' so to speak, than a rare soul event. I suppose it's part and parcel of commercialising the scene, but at the mainly oldies allnighters I've been to (Kings Hall for example) I've not seen such problems, so was wondering where exactly this is becoming such a big issue? Some folk will no doubt feel awkward about listing venues because of upsetting the promoters, but if it ain't addressed it ain't gonna be fixed. Edited February 21, 2012 by Mace 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest proudlove Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Never seen a problem at Radcliffe ..........but would you want to argue with the punters,never mind the door staff...........never seen a problem at the Wheel nighters or nights(ignoring Sunday sesh) apart from someone whos name rhymes with Boldstein being decked by a lady........................ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Anton L Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 Anton, is this mainly on the oldies circuit, cus I haven't seen any such violence at nighters but obviously don't go mainy oldies niters. Then again, it could've been happening but I've been that newted I ain't noticed Where exactly is this becoming such a problem? I think they are poping up all over now, used to confined to just the weekenders and very big oldies does but seen them being ejected from upfront does as well now. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mace Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I think they are poping up all over now, used to confined to just the weekenders and very big oldies does but seen them being ejected from upfront does as well now. Even more stumped now. Which upfront events? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest aaz19tdi Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I mopped up a spilt drink in the middle of the dancefloor downstairs before someone wiped out on it-it had nothing to do with me but I dealt with it-I could of been a soft drink-it could of been beer-I didn't see anyone at the dome dancing with drinks in their hand up or downstairs-it's very intimidating being around such amazing dancers when your a crap dancer with the rythym of a broken cuckoo clock and a bit of Dutch courage is the only way I can do it-you don't have to get blotto its just a bit of dancefloor lubrication if you like- Ask pete hesketh what happened to him at the dome you couldnt make it up. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Suinoz Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I am sure this subject has been on here loads of times but in the last couple of years, more niters have seen violence caused by HANDBAGGERS or P**s heads who have no interest in the soul scene, just a place for a late drink and to take the p**s out of soul fans. Can't we bring back memberships, not letting anyone without membership to any soul club through the doors? I am all for live and let live what ever each person wears, listens to, thinks or how old they are, thats what makes the scene diverse and fun. Some guy or girl dancing on the floor trying to pull a spin or backdrop with a beer in their hand, or swilling a pint whilst asking "what's this s**t thats playing then" really does bring out the worst in me and I would love to see them taken outside and battered!! Hey Anton, this will and alway's has been a bone of contention. Nothing worse that seeing dickheads having a laugh at our expense at any soul event and the drinking on the dancefloor thing is down right dangerous as well as annoying. Gotta say it's put me off some venues. I had the chance to deejay at a very well known allnighter in Staffs. last October and witnessed plenty of the aforementioned pests in attendance. Trouble is with the huge costs of venue hire these day's the promoters sometimes have little choice but to let em' in to make up the numbers. Or they are just downright greedy. Not having a go at anyone in particular here, it's just a scourge we will have to live with i feel. Keep the floor ' BEER FREE '. Tony T Bone, Australia. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gordon russell Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 over here in Germany there are vast quantities of alcohol drunk at soul nights/nighters weekenders etc ==no trouble Maybe the problem in the UK lies in the fact that although "all hours" drinking is supposedly allowed it isn´t actually! so?otherwise piss-heads wouldn´t need to leave the pub to go to somewhere that is open longer. Personally i would need to be arseholed to listen to the funky shite thats being played anyway Steve Also people have selected memories,The Greyhound or Clock bar Wolverhampton before the Cats......full of soullies not just drinking shandy! The Pub just up the road from the Torch same thing, 100 club always ok for a tipple , Stafford on it till the bar shut . come to think of it on the coaches years ago there were always people loosening up on the way up Seems like the scene needs a few chill pills (then it would be really like the old days ) Yep remember it well steve.....get to wolvo straight in the greyhound pints of geer luverly.......how yoy doing mate Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gordon russell Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 This thread is sounding very middle aged ......personally l don,t go to venues with maniacs doing cartwheels,triple back sukahara's and flailing their legs about like a bruce lee film........maybe we should ask ...why should someone who is standing by the dancefloor or in a lot of cases having to walk across part of it with his/her pint or whatever have to move because some nutter can,t keep his/her dancing to themselves and what right do they have to ask/tell someone to move so they can do these poor mans acrobatics.........it,s not all about YOU!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest sharmo 1 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) Can you imagen saying to a club owner that you want a room on a Fri/Sat but only want them to sell soft drink's ?.Best to go for membership have your own door staff sign's up ( no booze on the dance floor , no drug's (to be consumed in the building wink wink) and no talc on the dance floor) let's face it , it is rare any of the soul family getting pissed and causing trouble , and if you are a promoter you should also keep an eye out for non soulies and say you're not comming in mate.Also the no entry after 11 especially in cities would be worth imposing unless you really knew them .regards Lucky Lou. Edited February 22, 2012 by sharmo 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Even more stumped now. Which upfront events? Yes ,which ones? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winnie :-) Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Yes ,which ones? Perhaps post 40 is being referred to? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winnie :-) Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I quite liked the idea of a ''soul source'' membership to get into the clubs (sorry can't remember who proposed it). Most promoters advertise their events on here, so why not affiliate, and a membership card that covers all venues could be the way forward? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
manus Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 over here in Germany there are vast quantities of alcohol drunk at soul nights/nighters weekenders etc ==no trouble Maybe the problem in the UK lies in the fact that although "all hours" drinking is supposedly allowed it isn´t actually! so?otherwise piss-heads wouldn´t need to leave the pub to go to somewhere that is open longer. Personally i would need to be arseholed to listen to the funky shite thats being played anyway Steve Also people have selected memories,The Greyhound or Clock bar Wolverhampton before the Cats......full of soullies not just drinking shandy! The Pub just up the road from the Torch same thing, 100 club always ok for a tipple , Stafford on it till the bar shut . come to think of it on the coaches years ago there were always people loosening up on the way up Seems like the scene needs a few chill pills (then it would be really like the old days ) Great post ( apart from the funky shite bit lol ) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Perhaps post 40 is being referred to? Anton refers to upfront venues in the plural, like Mace I haven't seen this or heard of any such incidents except the one I referred to which in 8 years is nothing? I've seen very little in the way of people being thrown out. I'd like to know what venues Anton is referring to and where he has seen all these problems? Be them oldies or so called upfront. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gordon russell Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Even more stumped now. Which upfront events? kings hall rare room? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winnie :-) Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Anton refers to upfront venues in the plural, like Mace I haven't seen this or heard of any such incidents except the one I referred to which in 8 years is nothing? I've seen very little in the way of people being thrown out. I'd like to know what venues Anton is referring to and where he has seen all these problems? Be them oldies or so called upfront. People don't like naming venues Chalky, I only mentioned your post as it might have been what Anton was referring to? So far this year I've heard of at least 2 nighters where things have kicked off, don't know their music policy, one was definitely discussed on soul source. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 People don't like naming venues Chalky, I only mentioned your post as it might have been what Anton was referring to? So far this year I've heard of at least 2 nighters where things have kicked off, don't know their music policy, one was definitely discussed on soul source. I've heard of the one at Derby, oldies all-nighter, as far as I know that wasn't a p*ss head or handbagger. Maybe they should name them if there is a problem at certain venues then others will know other wise what is the point of the topic if you can't back it up? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winnie :-) Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I've heard of the one at Derby, oldies all-nighter, as far as I know that wasn't a p*ss head or handbagger. Maybe they should name them if there is a problem at certain venues then others will know other wise what is the point of the topic if you can't back it up? Have PM'd you Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 One post and a quoted post unapproved whilst sorted, busy at the moment but will get back to it. Ask please refrain from insulting fellow members. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ritchieandrew Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I saw four "youths" drinking on the dancefloor @ Grumpy Soul last Saturday night. They lasted about 4 seconds befor Jumpin Joan asked them in no uncertain terms but in a polite manner to stand elsewhere. It is after all a dancefloor............well done Joan.!! Ricardo. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Epic Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Problem is that something that was "underground" 35 years ago has become very much "mainstream". Ian Levine predicted in 1975 that the scene would end up like this with the same music being played & middle aged people dressing as they did back then - he wasn't far wrong !!!. The word "handbagger" (hate the word !!!) is on at least 2 threads on this forum & it is all over facebook - yet many people deny that they have them at their gig - simple fact is if you put a "Northern Soul" night on that is the type of people you attract. What happened to the days of going out to hear newly discovered tunes - that was my REASON for going to them in the first place !!! There are pockets of people still trying to play "rare soul" & they are the venues that should be patronised & encouraged. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Problem is that something that was "underground" 35 years ago has become very much "mainstream". Ian Levine predicted in 1975 that the scene would end up like this with the same music being played & middle aged people dressing as they did back then - he wasn't far wrong !!!. The word "handbagger" (hate the word !!!) is on at least 2 threads on this forum & it is all over facebook - yet many people deny that they have them at their gig - simple fact is if you put a "Northern Soul" night on that is the type of people you attract. What happened to the days of going out to hear newly discovered tunes - that was my REASON for going to them in the first place !!! There are pockets of people still trying to play "rare soul" & they are the venues that should be patronised & encouraged. I really agree with your last statement but unfortunately people putting on events which are frequented by handbaggers are only in it for the money, they know they are going to get packed venues and big takings behind the bar so they don't care about playing Third Finger Left Hand, this is just so far away from what the Northern Soul scene was/is about, and I know it's not just in this town, though we do seem to have more than most, and people say to me how come we never see you out anymore..is it any surprise? 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Daved Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) I quite liked the idea of a ''soul source'' membership to get into the clubs (sorry can't remember who proposed it). Most promoters advertise their events on here, so why not affiliate, and a membership card that covers all venues could be the way forward? Nice idea Win but totally unenforecable imo in view of the huge number and wide ranging events on here. Would you put pictures up of badly behaving drunks up in a rogues gallery on the site? Perhaps we should add other sections for rogues who don't play ovo, like oldies only, wear baggies and other groups that the mob like to lynch Edited February 22, 2012 by daved Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Mrs Williams Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I also think that handbagger types lack a brain............at one venue i was at, they were told 3 times not to bring the drinks on the dance floor, then at the same time one of the female ones ( i can't say lady), trots onto the floor drink in hand dancing like an idiot & bumping into everyone......they just don't get it!...........If i was running a club, i would just not let them in. Debbie x Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Davekd Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Maybe I go to the wrong venues because I have hardly ever seen any of this going on - a few youngsters with drinks now and then, bit always the promoter has talked to them and no problem. Of course I only go out a couple fo times a month generally in the London area, so don't attend the big oldies type do's. Our own little local do in Walthamstow has been running monthly for seven years and I can only remember maybe two 'hairy' moments and never a fight - didnt even have a doorman for the first five years (the council now insist) - maybe we have just been lucky? Dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
wiganelli Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Someone stated they had only seen 1 incident in the last 8years lucky you !! Without naming and wont name venues me and my partner in the last 8 months have seen 6 Fights !!! Now then for me thats bad, and people on here keep going on about is it oldies or rare events thats irrelevant in my eyes the thing is it needs sorting !!! ..We need a membership forum to stop all this, its the only way i think,thats really good on Joan doing that with the glasses of the floor, and so does my partner when we have gigs, but God forgive if one of them had been a real nasty bastard which we get nowadays ?? Why put ourselves in that position in the 1st place its like walking on egg shells all-night we dont need em... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Someone stated they had only seen 1 incident in the last 8years lucky you !! Without naming and wont name venues me and my partner in the last 8 months have seen 6 Fights !!! Now then for me thats bad, and people on here keep going on about is it oldies or rare events thats irrelevant in my eyes the thing is it needs sorting !!! ..We need a membership forum to stop all this, its the only way i think,thats really good on Joan doing that with the glasses of the floor, and so does my partner when we have gigs, but God forgive if one of them had been a real nasty bastard which we get nowadays ?? Why put ourselves in that position in the 1st place its like walking on egg shells all-night we dont need em... That's bad. If i went to a venue and felt intimidated,i'd stop going and find another venue.If any of you handbaggers,who delight in taking drinks on the dancefloor are reading this,please stay in your local pub. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Sharon H Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 That's bad. If i went to a venue and felt intimidated,i'd stop going and find another venue.If any of you handbaggers,who delight in taking drinks on the dancefloor are reading this,please stay in your local pub. My thoughts exactly bro....and I also agree with the membership idea but just wonder who would enforce this and run it ? just a thought Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Mrs Williams Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 When i first started going you would never get any trouble, but it does seem that more & more trouble makers, handbaggers etc.. are coming in now..........i have even been told by my other half to move from where i was dancing, sitting or standing, just so i was not in the way of these idiots, but i don't feel i should have to. I think the answer to all of this is simple...........why can't the people running the night, just not let them in at the door?, they could just say it's a private function or something???, because as time goes on more & more of them will be coming in & the nights will become less enjoyable. Debbie x Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 When i first started going you would never get any trouble, but it does seem that more & more trouble makers, handbaggers etc.. are coming in now..........i have even been told by my other half to move from where i was dancing, sitting or standing, just so i was not in the way of these idiots, but i don't feel i should have to. I think the answer to all of this is simple...........why can't the people running the night, just not let them in at the door?, they could just say it's a private function or something???, because as time goes on more & more of them will be coming in & the nights will become less enjoyable. Debbie x Cos it takes a few pints to identify them? Only more and more will come to re-live their youth listening to tunes from then.If they dont know the tunes,they'll be soon back down the pub. Egg shells...nah. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
wiganelli Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Debbie Dee 100% correct theres more and more and its snowballing without doubt,why should YOU HAVE TO MOVE, you paid youre money you want to have a good dance and be in the soulelement company, and then what happens you see him staggering over the dancefloor thinks hes THE BOLLOCKS shitfaced up f...r then hes dancing around you like something out of a f...n TARZON film then thats it night f...d again !!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Mrs Williams Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I can understand what your saying Kev, but i have seen a few of them coming in already drunk & staggering about before they have even reached the bar, so why are they not stopped from coming in then?..............but i agree, i might be little, lol....but i won't walk on eggshells or be moved. Debbie x Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest soul elite Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I've only ever seen a fight twice (coincidentally at the same place, different nites). Both very drunk! One a young lad and the other was a middle aged woman.... wtf is that all about? can't understand women fighting, no decorum at all. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I can understand what your saying Kev, but i have seen a few of them coming in already drunk & staggering about before they have even reached the bar, so why are they not stopped from coming in then?..............but i agree, i might be little, lol....but i won't walk on eggshells or be moved. Debbie x Not stopped from coming in..i'm guessing that they're locals in the main,and the soul fraternity are the outsiders.Not allowing locals in may cause problems for the venue on the other 3 weekends of the month. Memberships - applied for, from the promoter. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Someone stated they had only seen 1 incident in the last 8years lucky you !! No I said we'd only had one person thrown out at Lifeline in 8 years, not on the scene as a whole. I've seen quite a few incidents but then I've been seeing them since I started on the scene, trouble has always been around the scene. I do agree one incident is one too many and it's is up to the promoters to be more vigilant when in many cases once they have taken your money they couldn't care. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
wiganelli Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 ok i mis read youre post chalky !! thats a good average 1in 8.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harry Crosby Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 not seen a lot of bother over the years, the last one i saw was a few years back. And the dj immediatly turned the music off and promptly announced it was not going back on till the offender either left or was ejected from the room. That soon worked Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
macca Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 over here, like in germany, people drink and then some, but you won't see people with pints. they'll drink either shorts, which really should be called longs, or just bottled beer. some people carry their drink onto the floor, some don't. If townies are admitted and start to misbehave on the floor, they're pulled up on it, given a warning and if that doesn't work, invited to leave quickly. I've never seen any trouble or fights, but I have seen people acting stupid once or twice, but never for long. It depends on how the event in question is promoted. I know the valencia northern soul club lads include 'no drinks on the floor' blurb in their promotional material. others say nothing at all and allow the crowd to 'police' the event. personally, I've no problem with a person dancing next to me with a drink in his or hand as long as they dance in such a way that doesn't impinge on my own enjoyment. here it seems to work, largely because the majority don't tend to do 'stunts' or spins and the like, or even take up much space on the floor. those that do dance 'english style' are given the room they need. I suppose this approach would be unworkable in the UK today... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Geeselad Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Its certainly not a problem specific to the scene and I think a sad reflection of the change in alcohol consumption in the nation over the last 20 year, ie since rave culture started to cut into breweries profits and alcohol was hard- sold to the youth market in many new ways, anyone evey see mock syringes of shots in the mid 9ts? Basically for many young people today the main purpose of going out is to get absolutely bladdered as soon as possible and the culture that goes with that, think 18 to 30's hol mentality has no respect for anything other than who's getting the next round. So a scene like our's with a delicate culture of respect and many quirky mannerisms is so completely alien to the mainstream public, its not suprising they have no comprehension of how to behave. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
wiganelli Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Its certainly not a problem specific to the scene and I think a sad reflection of the change in alcohol consumption in the nation over the last 20 year, ie since rave culture started to cut into breweries profits and alcohol was hard- sold to the youth market in many new ways, anyone evey see mock syringes of shots in the mid 9ts? Basically for many young people today the main purpose of going out is to get absolutely bladdered as soon as possible and the culture that goes with that, think 18 to 30's hol mentality has no respect for anything other than who's getting the next round. So a scene like our's with a delicate culture of respect and many quirky mannerisms is so completely alien to the mainstream public, its not suprising they have no comprehension of how to behave. WELL PUT Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 the scene is full of incidents ive witnessed loads over last few years and heard of many too, women being harrassed, djs being abused, thefts of records, coats and handbags, soulies being assaulted and abused, not all them related to pisheads but 99% are, not saying its happening every week but its defo going on and will carry on unless it can be nipped in the bud which i think is nigh on impossible, sooner or later someones going to get seriously hurt and someones going to get into serious trouble has the scene always had these issues or are they only just starting to happen ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) It's obviously never crossed your mind that those of us who do enjoy a drink but don't cause problems are just as annoyed about the drunks as you are. You are of course entitled to go and find an allnighter that doesnt have a bar, but as Chalky said, you'll struggle. In the mean time, if you see someone who is drunk and being a nuisance, tell the promoter, but leave those of us who are no problem alone, we're not the problem, so saying that anyone who likes a drink should "stay the fook away from you" is not the answer. Well said DAVE, the majority of us who like a drink at a do or a niter especially are more than capable of getting lashed and indulging ourselves without annoying or upsetting anybody else, we have been doing it for donkey's years after all...Still think serious problems are pretty much few and far between at venues which are exclusively dominated by real Soul fans....Far, far less problems than you experience through drinking in normal commercial clubs that is for sure... But 'Stay the fook away from me' is certainly not the answer and the 'we vote with our feet' bit is way off focus...Ban alcohol from all Northern Soul do's and niters from tomorrow and you'll see attendances plummet.....And too many venues count on the money they'll make over the bar as a major factor in the 'hire' arrangements with Promoters to even begin thinking of such a proposal.... Down to management and the Promoters to keep a proper eye on things.... Edited February 22, 2012 by rich chorley 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Moore Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 over here, like in germany, people drink and then some, but you won't see people with pints. they'll drink either shorts, which really should be called longs, or just bottled beer. some people carry their drink onto the floor, some don't. If townies are admitted and start to misbehave on the floor, they're pulled up on it, given a warning and if that doesn't work, invited to leave quickly. I've never seen any trouble or fights, but I have seen people acting stupid once or twice, but never for long. It depends on how the event in question is promoted. I know the valencia northern soul club lads include 'no drinks on the floor' blurb in their promotional material. others say nothing at all and allow the crowd to 'police' the event. personally, I've no problem with a person dancing next to me with a drink in his or hand as long as they dance in such a way that doesn't impinge on my own enjoyment. here it seems to work, largely because the majority don't tend to do 'stunts' or spins and the like, or even take up much space on the floor. those that do dance 'english style' are given the room they need. I suppose this approach would be unworkable in the UK today... Yep, I concur with you Mate. The drinking at venues here is much more placid and I'd wager that's because the culture is different. Having said that - there have been a couple of incidents where people have had to be removed from Allnighters here that I've attended. One bloke actually spat a whole bottle of beer at some young girls. Security guy at the Valencia Allnighters was a great bloke. Professional, agood sport and knew when to 'step in' early enough and in the right way to ensure no knobbers got out of hand. Hitsville Weekender - Try stopping the people having a drink? No chance! He He! We do both - drink AND dance! Never had an ounce of trouble. Regards, Dave 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 the scene is full of incidents ive witnessed loads over last few years and heard of many too, women being harrassed, djs being abused, thefts of records, coats and handbags, soulies being assaulted and abused, not all them related to pisheads but 99% are, not saying its happening every week but its defo going on and will carry on unless it can be nipped in the bud which i think is nigh on impossible, sooner or later someones going to get seriously hurt and someones going to get into serious trouble has the scene always had these issues or are they only just starting to happen ? I must be too pissed to notice all this going on then BEARSY!.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest MrC Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 the scene is full of incidents ive witnessed loads over last few years and heard of many too, women being harrassed, djs being abused, thefts of records, coats and handbags, soulies being assaulted and abused, not all them related to pisheads but 99% are, not saying its happening every week but its defo going on and will carry on unless it can be nipped in the bud which i think is nigh on impossible, sooner or later someones going to get seriously hurt and someones going to get into serious trouble has the scene always had these issues or are they only just starting to happen ? It's always been around, fights with the punks outside the Casino the night the Stranglers had been on earlier in the evening, the drunken yobs from BusyBees (?) who used to lob bottles, chase people, and generally cause trouble for people on the way to the casino from the train station. Then inside the casino as well, bags stolen, coats nicked, got even worse around 78 when it was in the Times, and had been on TV a couple of times. As was mentioned earlier, there's been trouble at Kings Hall in the past. I think mainly it's Soul Nights, as opposed to full all nighters where the problems occur, or that's how it's seemed to me over the years. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winnie :-) Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 the scene is full of incidents ive witnessed loads over last few years and heard of many too, women being harrassed, djs being abused, thefts of records, coats and handbags, soulies being assaulted and abused, not all them related to pisheads but 99% are, not saying its happening every week but its defo going on and will carry on unless it can be nipped in the bud which i think is nigh on impossible, sooner or later someones going to get seriously hurt and someones going to get into serious trouble has the scene always had these issues or are they only just starting to happen ? I would say it's steadily been on the increase in the last 8 to 10 years, because that's about the period more and more people have found out (outside of the scene) that there's somewhere to go out when you're 40+, and when I say go out I mean out in a club environment. I would say that the number of incidents increasing coincides with the huge number of events available, and that there's easy access to finding out about soul nights/nighters via the net. One of the things that set our scene apart from the run of the mill, was the friendliness, I don't mean life long friendships, I mean immediate acceptance because we recognised in each other a love of soul music. That is sadly having to change because there are just so many people on the scene nowadays that don't have the same interests that encouraged most of us to take those initial steps in the first place. . 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Guest Posted February 22, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2012 Let's get real here... You guys ought to try a few Hip-Hop nights or Ragga do's, bloody hell, they are like a war zone compared to Northern Soul nights...Mass fights, drug rows, women fighting each other, stabbings, shootings even sometimes... I still think on the whole, a Soul night is a far more mellow place to be - given that yes, there are occasional problems - than your average commercial or contemporary R'N'B club where all the elements of gangsterism and the accompanying tensions often erupt into violence... 6 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
MartynJJ Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 All good here mate, i swear this is coming your way if yer get to close to me cuz ive had enough of it . bosch straight in the boat race ..... so glad I was stood at the side of you when I snapped this one and not smack bang facing you Lee!! Have to say in the couple of years i've been back doing the rounds I haven't come across any trouble and long may that continue, then again I do try and pick my events carefully and go on reccomendations from others. End of the day the beer issue isn't going to go away and a membership scheme of some sorts does seem to have it's merits Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 As a none drinker thats supports most nighters everywhere and someone that has a partner that would out drink most of you at the table iam fully aware of soulies that like a drink and dont cause problems mr rimmer thank you. Well, that would be the vast, vast majority in my view so a bit unfair to address the subject from the actions of a small minority, no? (I love a good JACK DANIELS marathon at a niter, me!).... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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