Briank Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) I got another one that I need help on and I think is sounds like a soul record unlike the last one I asked about. Edited February 10, 2012 by briank Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Briank Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) A strange thing is that it was recorded at 78 rpm...why would they do that? I do not think it is that old. Edited February 7, 2012 by briank Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 The song is "Baby, Since You Went Away" also done by Doug Banks on Argo, don't know this version though. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Len Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Lovely, not heard it either. The Doug Banks version that Tony mentioned is the other side to 'I Just Kept On Dancing' All the best, Len. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) Sounds like Kenny Gamble. More I listen its You Don't Know What You Got Untill You Lose It even the score. Edited February 6, 2012 by Prophonics 2029 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Briank Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 Note...all the label says is: "Baby" and Hill and Range at the bottom. Another different thing is that it's recorded at 78 rpm!!! That's different for an acetate is it not? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) Credits on the single for Douglas Banks are John Walsh & Murry Wecht, if this pre-dates the the Argo release then why not a 78. Edited February 6, 2012 by Prophonics 2029 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Briank Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 We do not know how much it predates it....Ramsey Lewis Argo 5481 release date is October 10, 1964 and Doug Banks is Argo 5483 which is after this. Mass production of 78s stopped around 1960 from what I've heard. I'm not in disagreement, but just wondering why they opted to record it at 78 rather than 45. Out of this collection of acetates of which there were over 100 this is the only one done this way. I have heard especially from 78 collectors that 78s sound better than 45s and maybe that's why this was done. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) Or maybe they had a spare 78 blank kicking around? Edited February 6, 2012 by pikeys dog Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Note...all the label says is: "Baby" and Hill and Range at the bottom. Another different thing is that it's recorded at 78 rpm!!! That's different for an acetate is it not? Hill and Range is he publishers isn't it? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Briank Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 I just found another copy which confirms the previous statement by Prophonics2029. Attached is scan with lyric sheet This one is recorded at 45rpm. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Briank Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) Cheers. Edited February 7, 2012 by briank Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Briank Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) thanks. Edited February 7, 2012 by briank 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 The Doug Banks is a masterpiece of Big City soul and a record I could never bring myself to sell no matter how much I loathe "I Just Kept On Dancing". This is more like a songwriters' demo and lacks all the peaks, troughs and tension in the arrangement and the masterful vocal control which makes the Argo release so great. The vocalist sounds white to me. Interesting though and thanks for posting it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) Wow different Doug Banks take. Ady c had this with Gerrie Granger 45 and 78 on why cant it be tonight and the panic is on Lou Johnson Edited February 6, 2012 by Prophonics 2029 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 The second file you've posted sounds just like a Doug Banks vocal but over a different instrumental take to the finished Argo 45. Are these both on the same acetate? Like Tony says above it was not completely unusual for acetates to be cut at 78rpm well into the 1960s. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Briank Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 These are two different acetates. Thanks for the input to all. I do not have the Argo 45 at all, so I could not compare. I could not find the cut on utube that is included above for some reason. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Briank Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 Yes, the vocals sound very similiar to me on the official release and the acetates. Glad they were enjoyed. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Benji Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 First audio clip sounds like a publisher's demo to me. 2nd clip is definitely Doug Banks singing over the demo backing. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Croasdell Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 They were still doing some acetate 78s right up to 1965 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Croasdell Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Good acetates Brian, if you're selling the Doug Banks, I'd go for it or if you want to preserve the sound do a high quality copy of it before you play it much, you can hear the needle damage on the first demo. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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