pikeys dog Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) https://www.raresoulm...-james-uk-album Look at the image on the cover then read John's flowery patter... If that's Etta James I'm an Anorexic Supermodel. Edited January 31, 2012 by pikeys dog Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
The Yank Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) I saw that and wondered what he was thinking - that's not Etta. Edited February 1, 2012 by the yank Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kevinkent Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) https://www.raresoulm...-james-uk-album Look at the image on the cover then read John's flowery patter... If that's Etta James I'm an Anorexic Supermodel. I'm not so sure. For some reason the album image in the link is distorted. The album cover is rectangular and not square as it should be, so the face is narrowed and lengthened. The undistorted image is much more of a likeness: Now what do you reckon? I say it's Etta. - Kev Edited February 1, 2012 by KevinKent Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 as great as ettas voice was she wasnt no looker..in fact id put her looks on a par with a man of the same surname....sid JAMES Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 as great as ettas voice was she wasnt no looker..in fact id put her looks on a par with a man of the same surname....sid JAMES or pigsy from MONKEY Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post Kevinkent Posted February 1, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) as great as ettas voice was she wasnt no looker..in fact id put her looks on a par with a man of the same surname....sid JAMES or pigsy from MONKEY That's a bit unnecessary mate. I get a bit tired of your jokey quips when they are all you can add to serious threads, and in this case your timing makes it offensive. Edited February 1, 2012 by KevinKent 6 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 What's the LP like, must be very early r & b stuff? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kevinkent Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 What's the LP like, must be very early r & b stuff? Yes Pete, very early r & b. Not to my taste at all. JM has supplied a handful of soundclips if you follow the link in the first post. - Kev Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Yes Pete, very early r & b. Not to my taste at all. JM has supplied a handful of soundclips if you follow the link in the first post. - Kev Cheers Kev, does anyone remember that amazing footage I put up of her singing Roll With Me Henry at some nightclub in the 50's? Youtube took it down, it might be back up again, I don't know, but I got a letter from her manager asking if I could do Etta a copy of the entire footage, which I duly did, a few weeks later I got a lovely colour 8 x 10 autographed photo of Etta. I still think the autograph was done by the manager to be honest, but it was a nice gesture. This was about 6 or 7 years ago. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Shinehead Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) What's the LP like, must be very early r & b stuff? It's a mixture of early r & b , big band type stuff and a bit of rock n roll , i don't own it but with the sad passing of Etta i listened to her stuff on Spotify a few weeks ago and that was one of the albums i played , quite nice too if you like the early sound. Edited February 1, 2012 by shinehead Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kevinkent Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Wow, that's a nice little story Pete. I haven't seen that footage, but I'd like to even though I don't particularly like that track. Anyway what do you reckon of the album cover - is it Etta or not? - Kev Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Wow, that's a nice little story Pete. I haven't seen that footage, but I'd like to even though I don't particularly like that track. Anyway what do you reckon of the album cover - is it Etta or not? - Kev Er..I'll sit on the fence with this one, it could be, but I actually thought she was lighter skinned than that Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kevinkent Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Er..I'll sit on the fence with this one, it could be, but I actually thought she was lighter skinned than that I thought she was lighter skinned too, but on viewing a gallery of her photo's I'm still not sure. She looks darker in some but they're black & white photo's so still difficult to judge. I wonder if her skin tone could have lightened over the years, either naturally or cosmetically? Maybe even to make her more acceptable to a wider American market. A shame if that is the case, but understandable I guess. - Kev Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 That's definitely not Etta James. It was not unusual for R&B albums of the time to be housed in artwork not remotely connected to the artists. Regarding Etta James's ethnic background her father was rumoured to be the caucasian pool player Rudy 'Minnesota Fats' Wanderon. Her mother was of mixed Filipino-African American heritage. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 That's definitely not Etta James. It was not unusual for R&B albums of the time to be housed in artwork not remotely connected to the artists. Regarding Etta James's ethnic background her father was rumoured to be the caucasian pool player Rudy 'Minnesota Fats' Wanderon. Her mother was of mixed Filipino-African American heritage. I think she also took up the white wig almost near the start of her singing career Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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boba Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 haha. so am I wrong about the wig or did she sometimes not wear it or was it just not in this picture? I'm pretty sure I've seen pics of her before this LP with the wig, but I guess I could be wrong. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 thats Etta, with her eyes painted on. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kevinkent Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 That's definitely not Etta James. It was not unusual for R&B albums of the time to be housed in artwork not remotely connected to the artists. Hmmm, now I'm begining to doubt myself. Difficult though 'cos I've known a few females that look good in reclining mode, but then look totally different in the morning! I just thought the doubt was caused by the image in the link (initial post) being distorted - and therefore looking nothing like Etta. Whereas without that distortion there is some resemblance. Any room on that fence Pete? - Kev. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Shinehead Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 The trademark beautyspot is missing on the said picture on the album sleeve , also the sleeve to the etta album Etta James Sings seems to have a lady on it who seems not to be Etta Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 now i'm totally lost Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I'm guessing that like many entertainers she had a variety of wigs but her signature look was as a blonde and that was the way she seemed to want to present herself through almost her entire career. An early publicity photo of The Peaches with a fairly young Etta: Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Shinehead Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 now i'm totally lost Do want a A to Z to help you ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Do want a A to Z to help you ? I don't know what that means, sorry. I'm just saying now there's multiple pictures posted and I'm not sure which picture anyone is talking about when they are talking about. So is the consensus that that first picture is not etta? Now there's a pic of an early etta with a blonde wig. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I don't know what that means, sorry. I'm just saying now there's multiple pictures posted and I'm not sure which picture anyone is talking about when they are talking about. So is the consensus that that first picture is not etta? Now there's a pic of an early etta with a blonde wig. The picture we're talking about is on the link in post number 1. I mentioned that I thought she was lighter skinned, and then someone started going on about blonde hair. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kevinkent Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 The trademark beautyspot is missing on the said picture on the album sleeve , also the sleeve to the etta album Etta James Sings seems to have a lady on it who seems not to be Etta I'd noticed that, but percieved defects often get airbrushed out at some stage. ......I think I'm clutching at straws now though! You got a scan of the Etta James Sings album to post up? -Kev. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Shinehead Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I'd noticed that, but percieved defects often get airbrushed out at some stage. ......I think I'm clutching at straws now though! You got a scan of the Etta James Sings album to post up? -Kev. Put a search on Discogs you'll find there. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 There are a variety of reasons why Ember would have used a library photo for the cover of that album: rights issues, cost issues and also the now uncomfortable idea the identity of the black woman on an album cover didn't matter as long as it was a black woman. Bottom line is that's not Etta James. Not even remotely! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 it's good that this issue is resolved. i still don't know what an "A to Z" is though. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Shinehead Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 it's good that this issue is resolved. i still don't know what an "A to Z" is though. Street maps . Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 it's good that this issue is resolved. i still don't know what an "A to Z" is though. An A to Z is a streetmap guide to a town or city, lists all the roads etc in alphabetical order with a grid reference so you can find them on the map Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Street maps . OK I get it now, thanks Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 There are a variety of reasons why Ember would have used a library photo for the cover of that album: rights issues, cost issues and also the now uncomfortable idea the identity of the black woman on an album cover didn't matter as long as it was a black woman. Bottom line is that's not Etta James. Not even remotely! Also Ember specialised in reissuing old material from then current artists, so their releases of james Brown, ray Charles, Roy Orbison etc often didn't have a picture of the actual artist on the cover. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest allnightandy Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 as great as ettas voice was she wasnt no looker..in fact id put her looks on a par with a man of the same surname....sid JAMES As someone once said of Sid "He has a face like an Unmade bed " LOL 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Windlesoul Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Had a Babs Lewis LP once with nothing but a big facial shot of some white lass on the cover.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kevinkent Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Will the real Etta James please stand up. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kevinkent Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Had a Babs Lewis LP once with nothing but a big facial shot of some white lass on the cover.... Saw a photo of Jackie Wison once, and he looked like a big fat white darts player. - Kev. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Here's a clip of Etta with Filipino looks,beauty spot....Blonde wig.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8pcNIGjJX0&feature=related Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Popular Post KevH Posted February 1, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2012 Had a Babs Lewis LP once with nothing but a big facial shot of some white lass on the cover.... You might like to re-phrase part of that Mark. 4 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
mshoals Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) The picture is also used on the Crown LP Lightning Hopkins Sings The Blues: (scan from https://www.bsnpubs.com) Edited February 1, 2012 by mshoals Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Shinehead Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 The picture is also used on the Crown LP Lightnin' Hopkins Sings The Blues:: She looks even less like Lightnin Hopkins Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pomonkey Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Didn't know Lightning Hopkins was that good a looker!! Similarly Tami Lynn wasn't too happy when we were talking about her French ep with a white girl on the sleeve, but have a great photo posing with Harvey Scales where we're holding up a 60s Euro ps of his where instead of any attempt at a picture of him there's just a drawing of.... an empty sofa, we tried figuring out what they meant by that but came up totally blank. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
jocko Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I suppose now is also not the time to ask if anyone has got this LP or any of Etta's early LP's for sale cheap? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
jocko Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Had a Babs Lewis LP once with nothing but a big facial shot of some white lass on the cover.... Berry Gordy's influence went far beyond the music, especially on UK LP covers. A white set of Isley Brothers, having had a sex change, is a good example! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kevinkent Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 The picture is also used on the Crown LP Lightnin' Hopkins Sings The Blues:: Hey, isn't that Etta James? OK I concede defeat. No problem - I'm quite used to being wrong about most things! - Kev Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) haha. so am I wrong about the wig or did she sometimes not wear it or was it just not in this picture? I'm pretty sure I've seen pics of her before this LP with the wig, but I guess I could be wrong. Ha looks chinese Edited February 3, 2012 by Guest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gene-r Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) What's the LP like, must be very early r & b stuff? Yes - it's a reissue of a US budget LP, "Miss Etta James" which was originally issued on Crown in the early '60s. It's a compilation of some of the sides she recorded for Modern around 1955 / 56. Good LP though, and worth buying if only for "Roll With Me Henry" and "Good Rockin' Daddy". I should also mention that the Crown LP had a plain art sleeve, and no picture of ANY artist. Sadly, it's not the first time that Etta James identity has been compromised. When "The Pick-Up" was 'released' in Jamaica on Kent, it was called "Crazy Feelings" and was credited to Donna Hightower (see scan below)! Guess that's what one of the sound system DJs played it as to stop their rivals getting a copy! Edited February 8, 2012 by Gene-R Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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