Kris Holmes Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 For me, 20 years, hundreds of thousands of 45s, never once flipped past Ben E King "Stand By Me" on original Atco in the wild, not hard to get off ebay, just weird it's never crossed my path. Add on.........
boba Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 For me, 20 years, hundreds of thousands of 45s, never once flipped past Ben E King "Stand By Me" on original Atco in the wild, not hard to get off ebay, just weird it's never crossed my path. Add on......... from looking in the US or New Zealand? Because if you ended up getting lots of cut outs shipped from the US, you would be more likely to get the rare stuff (e.g. intentions on tiki) than the hits. totally unrelated, but I love the ben e king "the record (baby I love you)", it's my favorite of his by far. Plus the song is about recording a record.
Kris Holmes Posted January 19, 2012 Author Posted January 19, 2012 both in the US & NZ as well as Canada, the UK, France & Japan, it's like i'm Stand By Me kryptonite, i'm actually semi-amazed a copy got to me in the mail & that it hasn't disappeared from my collection . not really likely to get much of anything down here, rare or common at the moment, hard work in record hell.
boba Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 both in the US & NZ as well as Canada, the UK, France & Japan, it's like i'm Stand By Me kryptonite, i'm actually semi-amazed a copy got to me in the mail & that it hasn't disappeared from my collection . not really likely to get much of anything down here, rare or common at the moment, hard work in record hell. chicago is record hell. at least if you get stuff it's probably unused stock versus some destroyed cracked moldy record from someone's leaky basement.
Kris Holmes Posted January 19, 2012 Author Posted January 19, 2012 chicago is record hell. at least if you get stuff it's probably unused stock versus some destroyed cracked moldy record from someone's leaky basement. yep, used to get good scores, but it's tough, almost like the records are drying up or something
ALIVE'N'KICKIN Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 found two copies of the seven souls - i still ove you digging in the south side of chicago....... both were cracked....... story of my life.
dthedrug Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 HI ALL All 4 of these UK DEMOS, eluded me for years, The rarest Jon Ford I got at least 20 years before I got the Archie Bell Demo? Sometimes records no matter how easy or how hard to locate, does not always go to plan in many cases the rarer a record is the more likely it will be offered for sale, in the days before the Internet, & RECORD COLLECTOR records like Jimmy Conwell were indeed hard to find, as were most rare UK northern dancers? DAVE
Kris Holmes Posted January 19, 2012 Author Posted January 19, 2012 that white label Betty Wright is a good looking 45
Modernsoulsucks Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 "Dancing in the Street" on Mint Gordy for me since about '85 when I decided to collect US Motown. ROD
Kris Holmes Posted January 19, 2012 Author Posted January 19, 2012 that's what i'm talking about, no reason for that to be elusive.
Modernsoulsucks Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 Im thinking big seller,mostly used copies, little unused stock lying about. And although Im loathe to mention it in case I got the wrong end of the stick I think some copies out there are pressed by other than Motown. Something about Gordy owing money. The pressings look cheap and faded. You see the odd Supremes and 4 tops 45 like that. That was the story I heard years ago. Boba, assume you know the HB Barnum version of "The Record" ROD
boba Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 Boba, assume you know the HB Barnum version of "The Record" no, I never heard of it, is it good? Searching youtube now.
boba Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 no, I never heard of it, is it good? Searching youtube now. Just listened. Although I admit there's the familiarity factor, the Ben E King sounds significantly better to me. Ben E King has a much better voice and delivery. The backing vocals on the Barnum cut was much more poppy, sounded possibly like White girls. The Ben E King version had a stronger female backing with more soulful voices.
Modernsoulsucks Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 It's cheap Bob. It'll grow on you. You can put it in some appropriate section in your collection. ROD
boba Posted January 19, 2012 Posted January 19, 2012 It's cheap Bob. It'll grow on you. You can put it in some appropriate section in your collection. ROD I have some HB Barnum records, already including one that's worse (something like "do the ska").
dthedrug Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 that white label Betty Wright is a good looking 45 Hi Criss...Yes it looks the Dog's in my opinion, however my 1st copy had NOC cost me £5, i swapped it for the one in the post +£5. in saying that apart from the Jon Ford they are not valued above £20, I could give loads of example like Lada Edmond Jr La Rue UK MCA DEMO, it may be quite easy now, but is in fact the rarest of the 6 Norther Soul records from the mid 70's however due to demand, RUBIN is more wanted, and it probably is elusive to many collectors to-day? cheers DAVE
Mr Smithy Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 "Ben E King "Stand By Me" on original Atco" I see copies of this just about every week in NY, a few are pretty beat but mostly they seem to be fairly clean but with 1 big scuff / scratch across it. It's like they paid some b***er to sit at the end of the line with a can puncher or something. I was just talking about this to someone the other week. "ben e king "the record (baby I love you)" just recently got a passable copy of this to replace my beat up one, this never shows up clean here. You're right Boba, quality tune.
Dave Moore Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 "Dancing in the Street" on Mint Gordy for me since about '85 when I decided to collect US Motown. ROD It's the same with the promo. Found a few but mainly trashed. Eventually did find a minter but had to resort to Ebay. I think it's the same with a lot of the more successful Motown 60s stuff. I suppose the promos were actually used for their purpose rather than filed in some radio station. Another one is Jr Walker - Road Runner. Have had a few but always beat up. Four Tops - Shale Me Wake Me... - Always got X on label. Does my heed in! Regards, Dave
Mark Bicknell Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 "Ben E King "Stand By Me" on original Atco" I see copies of this just about every week in NY, a few are pretty beat but mostly they seem to be fairly clean but with 1 big scuff / scratch across it. It's like they paid some b***er to sit at the end of the line with a can puncher or something. I was just talking about this to someone the other week. "ben e king "the record (baby I love you)" just recently got a passable copy of this to replace my beat up one, this never shows up clean here. You're right Boba, quality tune. Got a beautiful clean copy of The Record last year off Ebay for a fiver.
Steve G Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Carbon Copies for me. I've seen several float by the window, but there's always been something I wanted more, or a maniac with an oversized bank balance to contend with
boba Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Carbon Copies for me. I've seen several float by the window, but there's always been something I wanted more, or a maniac with an oversized bank balance to contend with wait, are you saying that the Carbon Copies 45 is a "common record"?
Steve G Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Not really common obviously, but I've seen a few go by.....am I not playing by the rules? Apologies..... I don't think the Betty Wright demo is common either, took me a long while to find one.
Guest Preems Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 I always used to hear this one on oldies radio in northern California, before radio went completely to sh*t (besides KPOO of course) https://youtu.be/-lPF3r1Kw8k ANyhow, I assumed it would be easy to find and was excited when I found the original more doo-wop version, but the version from 1966 took like three years to find. To find in a store btw, i wasn't trying to pay $5 shipping for a $5 record
Soulman Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Not really common obviously, but I've seen a few go by.....am I not playing by the rules? Apologies..... I don't think the Betty Wright demo is common either, took me a long while to find one. Yes Steve....and how mint was it . Still got quite a few things from that batch that came from Thames TV... all just like were were off the press. Wouldn't it be great if the BBC ever sold up their archives. Wishful thinking maybe Steve Handbury
Mr Smithy Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Got a beautiful clean copy of The Record last year off Ebay for a fiver. They are about, I'm sure, I just prefer diggin and supporting the locals unless it's something that's obviously not going to happen. That said, it's not one that shows up often here. Not sure about over there.
Guest martyn Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 I always used to hear this one on oldies radio in northern California, before radio went completely to sh*t (besides KPOO of course) ANyhow, I assumed it would be easy to find and was excited when I found the original more doo-wop version, but the version from 1966 took like three years to find. To find in a store btw, i wasn't trying to pay $5 shipping for a $5 record I dont think I've heard that before, I really like it...Not my normal taste either !
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