How Can You Tell Which Record Is The Original 1St Issue In Your Box

[dthedrug]

HI ALL This may sound stupid! it may well be now, but at the time I did not no the what was the real 1st issue from the 2nd issue, here is my mistake, and it makes me cringe as I wrote this, but to make my point simple, it may help others, now and in the future?

My Example is:- my first copy of Bobbi Lynn earthquake UK Stateside issue, Which I got along with a few Tamla Motown 500 series from the CO-OP in Letchworth Hearts, all the singles were in a revolving rack I sorted out the ones I wanted and took a quick exit, as you do, (if you were a bad lad like me) this would be about March 71,

In late 72 I had a decent collection of SOUL and had been reading BLUES & SOUL Mag for 2 years, to me it was a must read magazine which I read from cover to cover, especially learning about rare soul through Dave Godin and the comments in pen to paper, also the new releases, I cant remember the actual date now when the Bobbi Lynn was reissued on Bell, but I remember someone had a copy of it, trying to be clever, my copy on Stateside said Bell Recording on it (here's the Cringe) I did a straight swap for it, thinking it was the original,

Today that sort of mistake would never happen (I HOPE) for a UK released record, but I am still not sure with some US records, my second example will show my point, as which of the 2 copies was the original? any tips on basic ways to tell if it's origanal 1st issue, would be good news, the one with silver writeing is the one that is in my collection the other one was out of one of my boxes DAVE

[Kris Holmes]

I'd keep the one on the left because the one on the right is ugly & looks like a 70s press with the font they used for the label name.

[Supercorsa]

I'd keep the one on the left because the one on the right is ugly & looks like a 70s press with the font they used for the label name.

Exactly what I did! I was after this for quite some time, but would refuse to even consider purchasing the one on the right. Not only for this release, but all other Deon Jackson releases on Carla I did the same.

Although saying that I believe they are both originals.

Edited January 15, 2012 by Supercorsa

[dthedrug]

Exactly what I did! I was after this for quite some time, but would refuse to even consider purchasing the one on the right. Not only for this release, but all other Deon Jackson releases on Carla I did the same.

Although saying that I believe they are both originals.

HI to both of you, so on this example it really seams to be common sense, in recent times would you believe that I have seen the copy on the right sell for over £50? as to my eyes, it does not look as good as the one on the left and the sound although very good just don't sound as crisp to what we agree is the 1st cut, as you say they are both originals,

other records give me the same sort of problem. Like Van Mccoy Sweet n easy, most copies that I have seen over the many years are Blue with SHARE in silver, and the Dave Godin pick by the AD LIBS nothing worse than being alone is on the nice colorful SHARE label, now I have Sweet n easy on both labels I don't think it makes any difference to the price but the colorful label is far less common, as yet I can't recall seeing the AD LIBS on the Blue & Silver? I suspect the Blue & Silver is the 1st and the colored one used once a record reaches more sales or one is East Coast & the other is West Coast, again this is just an example, but I really don't no the answer, and would a copy of the AD LIBS be worth more on the Blue & Silver label??? CHEERS DAVE K

[Pete S]

Both originals, one East Coast one West Coast, in the case of the record above, just see if it's got a delta number

[Dave Pinch]

Both originals, one East Coast one West Coast, in the case of the record above, just see if it's got a delta number

theres a plum issue with silver text and also at least 3 white demo variations..it sold very well on the back of his big hit (love makes the world) and was pressed in a few places. just missed out comin out on red atlantic over here. the NY press on the left appears to be the commonest

dave

[Chalky]

theres a plum issue with silver text and also at least 3 white demo variations..it sold very well on the back of his big hit (love makes the world) and was pressed in a few places. just missed out comin out on red atlantic over here. the NY press on the left appears to be the commonest

dave

Isn't there a Detroit press as well? NY, West Coast and Detroit?

Back to Dave's question if you are new to the collecting game you simply don't know an original first press from a second issue, a bootleg from a counterfeit. It all comes with experience and being around records, asking questions. What seem lame questions to the likes of us are not lame to new comers to collecting. Thats one reason I try and encourage any question no matter how trivial and don't like anyone putting newcomers off asking questions.

[Jerry Hipkiss]

I cant remember the actual date now when the Bobbi Lynn was reissued on Bell, but I remember someone had a copy of it, trying to be clever, my copy on Stateside said Bell Recording on it (here's the Cringe) I did a straight swap for it, thinking it was the original,

2nd July 1971 from memory...for some reason I wrote the release date on my copy...sad man...

[Guest Perception]

Atlantic/Atco would maybe use 4 different pressing plants for the same record. These would usually have different label layouts/print.

These were all part of the same release/promotion, so all 4 different copies are considered originals.