Guest seanbailey1983 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Just wanted to gather peoples thoughts/personal definitions/opinions on what they consider cross over soul? Include tracks and atrists too if possible? Thanks Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 .......oh no, please do a search, we cant go through this again, stand fast Pete Smith . Best Russ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 .......oh no, please do a search, we cant go through this again, stand fast Pete Smith . Best Russ I'm trying Russ, I'm trying... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I'm trying Russ, I'm trying... :lol: Russ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 He's a new member so can be shown a little mercy I think. Crossover is many things to many people. I still struggle with what it is and I've been into soul music two thirds of my life! Welcome to Soul Source 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Sorry - welcome to SS. Best Russ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Citizen P Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Who Cares ???? Which looks harsh, but really isn't. If I hear a tune and I like it, it doesn't matter to me which box you try to force it into. A good tune is a good tune. ATB Tony 3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Sorry - welcome to SS. Best Russ No you are right though, someone put a link up to the last 5 or 6 debates we've had on this subject, the last one was only 3 weeks ago, this will only end up with the same people saying the same things, sorry Sean but this debate always ends in tears and angst! When you read the other debates you'll see what I mean. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Carstairs? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Here's a link to a topic where it's mainly just recommendations rather than tortuous debate on the exact meaning of the term: Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Here's a link to a topic where it's mainly just recommendations rather than tortuous debate on the exact meaning of the term: That's what I mean. A lot of the stuff in there I would class a northern not crossover. Like what you like and to hell with labels 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve Foran Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I did,nt know I liked crossover. Just had a look at the previous thread and I seem to own most of the tunes listed. So I like crossover now. Damm. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest seanbailey1983 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Cheers all Thanks for the link - should give me enough info Didn't realise it had been debated over and over! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rbman Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) stuff for selling or eating cakes to.... Edited January 6, 2012 by Rbman Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pauldonnelly Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Just wanted to gather peoples thoughts/personal definitions/opinions on what they consider cross over soul? Include tracks and atrists too if possible? Thanks click on you tube link for my offering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OvVsIUWZ4U Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Billywhizz Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Carstairs? SPOT ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gordon russell Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 When you stand in a nighter at 4 O'Clock and everyone is leaving because of the dj.........thats crossover Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gordon russell Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 He's a new member so can be shown a little mercy I think. Crossover is many things to many people. I still struggle with what it is and I've been into soul music two thirds of my life! Welcome to Soul Source What?..........since you were 11 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Little-stevie Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Its soul music, real soul music for thinkers and people with inner feelings.... Not for some of the dead ears and " uptempo terrorists " Only joking It means different things to many folk and like so many other topics, one mans rice pudding is another mans dog shit... All eggs in one basket.. Its soul or nothing... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Cheers all Thanks for the link - should give me enough info Didn't realise it had been debated over and over! There are about 4 or 5 topics that get continually discussed time and time again and in between them we get a few interesting threads. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 What?..........since you were 11 I wish! All I need now is for Phil to see your post Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 There are about 4 or 5 topics that get continually discussed time and time again and in between them we get a few interesting threads. nah, dont agree loads of decent threads all the time on here the trick is that you start threads about things you wanna talk about try it Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Shinehead Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Crossover ? i love it , what defines it , who knows Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Anais nin Carms Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Goodness me , this is a difficult question , we tie ourselves up so many times trying to catagorise soul it gets very confusing , for me its better to describe what it isn't and I could be wrong because my opinion is not gospel , its just my take on it . Its not northern , its not fast , its not girly like the saphires for example , its not modern , its not detroit sounding . I think it can lean to southern sounding ,its mellow and its fresh , not the norm its anything that is unusual "out of the box" . I have found Nev a good source of education in the CD's he did for me. My fave sounds are Top tune for me is Daniel Madison - It don't matter baby Rare Gems Odessy - It don't take much , absulute maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaajic , and cheap Clay Brown .......anything by him Clinton Parks - Masterplan Irene Scott - Everyday worries Cornell Guntor - In my heart Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 nah, dont agree loads of decent threads all the time on here the trick is that you start threads about things you wanna talk about try it well this part is definitely true: "There are about 4 or 5 topics that get continually discussed time and time again" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 well this part is definitely true: "There are about 4 or 5 topics that get continually discussed time and time again" I would disagree with "continually" https://www.soul-source.co.uk/forum/1-all-about-the-soul/ sure have ones like dislikes etc that hang around for a while but on other hand when was the last boot related one ? end of day its you out there make it what it is if you feel that could do with some new topics then why not start some ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 end of day its you out there make it what it is if you feel that could do with some new topics then why not start some ? I'm not bitching about the lack of topics, I was just pointing out that certain topics have been created many times and continue to be created. i do create topics. anyways, i've said enough on this. thanks for dealing with this site, i know it must be annoying when people complain after you put so much time and energy into the site. thanks a lot. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I'm not bitching about the lack of topics, I was just pointing out that certain topics have been created many times and continue to be created. i do create topics. anyways, i've said enough on this. thanks for dealing with this site, i know it must be annoying when people complain after you put so much time and energy into the site. thanks a lot. and im not bitching about anyone bitching just trying to get a general point across to all members that they can influence what gets talked about on here thats all Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 and im not bitching about anyone bitching just trying to get a general point across to all members that they can influence what gets talked about on here thats all I do enjoy the site and continue to read and comment in threads but there are a few topics that I ignore now as they are done to death. I'm sure I must've started a few threads I(hopefully interesting to some) in my time on here and have enjoyed the deep soul swaps and taken part in a least 4 of the recent ones. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Shinehead Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Lots of people get CROSS over it ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I do enjoy the site and continue to read and comment in threads but there are a few topics that I ignore now as they are done to death. I'm sure I must've started a few threads I(hopefully interesting to some) in my time on here and have enjoyed the deep soul swaps and taken part in a least 4 of the recent ones. yep put my hands up, my earlier post was a bit off guess just being a bit too defensive today on site stuff apoligies Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kris Holmes Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Just wanted to gather peoples thoughts/personal definitions/opinions on what they consider cross over soul? Include tracks and atrists too if possible? Thanks just go to youtube & type crossover soul in the search box & see what comes up. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sleeps45 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I always thought crossover was like a mixed sound of northern and funk ?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A91gPkpJcJ8&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLB03E9A5794195F4D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 yep put my hands up, my earlier post was a bit off guess just being a bit too defensive today on site stuff apoligies I also felt I had to respond to my initial post as I also thought I was being a bit too negative. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
spike1 Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Alongside of giving examples which is a hep to me,cos I ain't got a clue what "crossover"'is could some one define the term crossover? This is a genuine quest for knowledge not a piss take Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Maria O Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) Alongside of giving examples which is a hep to me,cos I ain't got a clue what "crossover"'is could some one define the term crossover? This is a genuine quest for knowledge not a piss take If you do a word search in the forum, you will probably find other threads on the subject and realise there is a bit of a debate on the definition. For me, it means a crossing over of styles (soul meets another) and most likely to be a late 60s to early 70s track. But I am sure others will disagree on that and whether a named song even falls into the category. One person's "crossover" can be another person's "70's modern" or just "disco funk" - and I've even heard what I'd simply call "60s soul", described as crossover. One thing's for sure IMHO, depending on where you're personally at with your soul tastes and recording years, seems to influence opinion. Also, various "crossover" (aka "xover") compilations were put out which may help you gain your own understanding- google the Kent and Goldmine LP's/CD catalogues and look for these, for a start. Also, the audio section would likely have crossover forum threads running where people nominate their tunes (and you can listen via youtube links or refosoul I'm assuming). These forums can be a bit of a bitch at times, so hope the above helps in your quest. m Edited January 7, 2012 by Maria O Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Perception Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Just wanted to gather peoples thoughts/personal definitions/opinions on what they consider cross over soul? Crossover is a record that can fit into a Northern Soul DJ set or a (so called) Modern Soul DJ set. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Jerri Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I always thought crossover was like a mixed sound of northern and funk ?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A91gPkpJcJ8&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLB03E9A5794195F4D brill Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Jerri Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 stuff for selling or eating cakes to.... and RnB is for "Sadling up yer pony to" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve L Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Alongside of giving examples which is a hep to me,cos I ain't got a clue what "crossover"'is could some one define the term crossover? This is a genuine quest for knowledge not a piss take 60s soul has a definite style to it, 70s soul also has a definite style to it - the two are completely different and fairly easy to identify one from the other. Records from say 68-72 can have elements of both decades in them and are less easy to define. In general thats all there is to it really, I dont know why people have to complicate thing with loads of different theories as to what crossover is Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve L Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I always thought crossover was like a mixed sound of northern and funk ?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A91gPkpJcJ8&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLB03E9A5794195F4D Thats crossover, no funk in there to my ears though. Funk shoudn't even come into the equation IMO Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sleeps45 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Thats crossover, no funk in there to my ears though. Funk shoudn't even come into the equation IMO yeah youre right..I really dont know if its called Northern,Crossover,funk or what..but to me its good ol sweet soul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest MrC Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) edited Edited January 10, 2012 by MrC Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark S Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 My definition and I,m right OK . good quality soul that doesnt quite fit the Northern soul template , will that do ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 https://www.demonmusicgroup.co.uk/Product.aspx?ProductID=5887#PI Would be remiss of me not to point you in the direction of new release compilation "They Call It Crossover" :0) Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 My definition and I,m right OK . good quality soul that doesnt quite fit the Northern soul template , will that do ? There is a lot of good quality soul that isn't northern or crossover. 2 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Awake 502 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 https://www.demonmusi...oductID=5887#PI Would be remiss of me not to point you in the direction of new release compilation "They Call It Crossover" :0) Sean It arrived last week from Amazon, with a few others Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 It arrived last week from Amazon, with a few others Less than £4 including delivery! https://www.amazon.co.uk/Backbeats-They-Call-Crossover-More-Mid-Tempo/dp/B0062Y9CNE Wise choice mate. A true Yorkshire Soul Man! Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest giant Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I'm trying Russ, I'm trying... :lol: :lol: Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest giant Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Lots of people get CROSS over it ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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