Paypal Strikes Again

[Pomonkey]

This is not directly record-related, but sooner or later suspect it's going to happen to one of us, a seller sold an antique violin, the buyer put in a dispute, and to resolve it Paypal demanded the violin be destroyed (!) and evidence of this sent to them so they could refund the buyer - ie the seller was out not just the money but their violin too - this is nuts, imagine sending a Gene Toones 45 off in good faith, buyer for any reason then makes a fuss (god knows it's happened to me) and the next thing you know the money is taken out your account by Paypal and your legit 45 is now in 17 pieces, not much chance of you re-selling it even if the bogus buyer kindly sends them back to you in a nice bag huh? Read and shudder:

Yesterday on Regretsy, Erica, a fan of the site, emailed in her own personal problems with PayPal that echoes Winchell's "oh my god what are they thinking" experience with the financial giant.

Erica was in the process of selling an antique violin that predated World War II, to a buyer in Canada for $2,500. But when the buyer received the violin, they disputed the label on the instrument. Erica asserts that this is a common thing in the world of antique instruments " and a quick Google search can verify that it is indeed commonplace. On top of that, she also confirmed that it was appraised and verified by a legitimate luthier.

The buyer wanted a refund, which Erica was willing to provide, but then PayPal got involved. In order to issue a refund, PayPal demanded that the violin be destroyed, as the company had somehow decided that the instrument was counterfeit-despite any actual investigation into the piece itself.

The buyer then sent Erica a picture (above) of the destroyed instrument. She contacted PayPal, who strongly defended its actions. In the Terms of Service for PayPal, there is a line that reads "PayPal may also require you to destroy the item and provide evidence of its destruction."

In many ways, this may seem like a justifiable move on PayPal's part to protect its customers, at least until you start to think about it. First, PayPal is in no way a legitimate source for the authentication of antique violins, especially since the bulk of its interaction was handled by phone and email.

Second, for some reason PayPal immediately seemed to side with the buyer. From an impartial point of view, there is no particular reason to assume the buyer is telling the truth while the seller is not. Perhaps the PayPal reps just trust Canadians.

Third, even if this were a scam there were better ways to handle it, none of which include PayPal anointing itself as the arbiter of a product very few people in the world are experts on. Now, without actually having the shattered violin analyzed by an expert, there is no way to confirm that Erica is telling the truth. But even if she was trying to sell a counterfeit, it was not PayPal's place to decide that, especially without concrete evidence.

If Erica is telling the truth, thanks to PayPal she is now out a $2,500 violin, and a rare antique has been destroyed. All because of a policy that had no business being cited in this situation.

PayPal has said that it is investigating the matter.

(This article was originally posted on Digital Trends)

[boba]

that sucks. one random comment though: $2500 doesn't sound like a very rare or antique violin given that they can cost millions. I'm no expert though.