current value please Blue Sharks--- i know its ITALIAN ONLY but the price.

  On 30/05/2012 at 14:07, Peter99 said:

No need for apologies my friend. It's a story that I would like to be true - because it adds more interest to the record/thread. It might have even been Sam who told me - but I don;'t remember!

Sam was deffo playing it at St Ives from late 76- early 77 onwards.....So are we saying he bought another copy in 2007 after selling the first ?

  On 07/06/2012 at 13:04, martyn said:

Sam was deffo playing it at St Ives from late 76- early 77 onwards.....So are we saying he bought another copy in 2007 after selling the first ?

Yes that was my understanding Martyn. He sold one and then bought another from an Italian dealer to play at the last Cleethorpes all dayer. I seem to recall that he bought his old copy back from the person he sold it to - but I might just be embroidering it a bit!

Here are some more tracks Blue Sharks lovers may like

  On 07/06/2012 at 13:09, Peter99 said:

Yes that was my understanding Martyn. He sold one and then bought another from an Italian dealer to play at the last Cleethorpes all dayer. I seem to recall that he bought his old copy back from the person he sold it to - but I might just be embroidering it a bit!

  On 07/06/2012 at 13:04, martyn said:

Sam was deffo playing it at St Ives from late 76- early 77 onwards.....So are we saying he bought another copy in 2007 after selling the first ?

That's right - I actually bought Sams first copy from him in about 1979/80 (give or take) - it was supposed to be a one-off at the time - I think that copy went to Iain Stewart in the mid 80's.

I never did find another one until copies started appearing with the birth of eBay. I've had quite a few over the last 10 years or so, and Sam had a spare one from me about 2005 . I thought he'd still got it, but earlier this year he bought another from me as he no longer had the other copy.

Cheers

Mick

  On 07/06/2012 at 13:27, Pete S said:

Here are some more tracks Blue Sharks lovers may like

Pete

I posted a pic sleeve of a single "Blue Sharks" made, is this the same group d'you think ?

Chris

I would say so Chris!

Mine sold for quite a lot more than £400 on JMs a few years back, I think I sold it at the perfect time.

Edited June 9, 201212 yr by Guest

  On 09/06/2012 at 18:27, Steve Lane said:

I would say so Chris! Mine sold for quite a lot more than £400 on JMs a few years back, I think I sold it at the perfect time.

Yes I think you did, just got one today for £109.00 compensation for an expensive Chubby Checker

  On 23/12/2011 at 22:07, CRUMB said:

Yeah, I read that as well. I think I also read that it was on one of those cheapo Avenue 7"ers with 6 cover versions on.

It's very possible that it would have been released here on one of those 6-track budget cover EPs (probably on Avenue, Disc-a-Fran, or Flag). And yes, it does look like the Italian equivalent of one of these budget cover singles (a bit like the Embassy label of the late 50s / early 60s). Both sides would have been UK hits around the same month during 1971, and probably a few months later in Italy (though it looked like Italy didn't believe in using a naked nubile to promote the record).

I wonder if the tracks were UK-produced and recorded for such EPs, and then sent over to Italy for similar use? Embassy (which was part of Oriole) did a similar thing by sending their tracks to countries like France and Israel for release out threre. If that's the case, then the real identity of the artistes would be unknown (certainly not the Blue Sharks). These cover versions were always recorded by whoever was available as a session musician at the time - don't forget that even Elton John recorded a few tracks for some Avenue EPs.

Edited June 13, 201212 yr by Gene-R

  On 13/06/2012 at 10:43, Gene-R said:

It's very possible that it would have been released here on one of those 6-track budget cover EPs (probably on Avenue, Disc-a-Fran, or Flag). And yes, it does look like the Italian equivalent of one of these budget cover singles (a bit like the Embassy label of the late 50s / early 60s). Both sides would have been UK hits around the same month during 1971, and probably a few months later in Italy (though it looked like Italy didn't believe in using a naked nubile to promote the record).

I wonder if the tracks were UK-produced and recorded for such EPs, and then sent over to Italy for similar use? Embassy (which was part of Oriole) did a similar thing by sending their tracks to countries like France and Israel for release out threre. If that's the case, then the real identity of the artistes would be unknown (certainly not the Blue Sharks). These cover versions were always recorded by whoever was available as a session musician at the time - don't forget that even Elton John recorded a few tracks for some Avenue EPs.

I'm not sure about that, I think there's a European twang to the vocals so it's probably an Italian group after all

  On 13/06/2012 at 12:55, Pete S said:

I'm not sure about that, I think there's a European twang to the vocals so it's probably an Italian group after all

Yes - good point. Do you think it could have been put out as a similar budget-type release?

Edited June 13, 201212 yr by Gene-R

  On 13/06/2012 at 12:58, Gene-R said:

Yes - good point. Do you think it could have been put out as a similar budget-type release?

Must have been. But if that had indeed come out on Avenue - I bet nobody would have touched it, it's all to do with it being scarce I reckon.

  On 13/06/2012 at 13:00, Pete S said:

Must have been. But if that had indeed come out on Avenue - I bet nobody would have touched it, it's all to do with it being scarce I reckon.

Make you right on that Pete! Mind you, it wouldn't be the first time a budget cover was played on the scene. There's also "Back In My Arms Again" by Val Palmer on Hit. Some of those Hit 45s are quite decent covers.

Edited June 13, 201212 yr by Gene-R

  On 13/06/2012 at 13:09, Gene-R said:

Make you right on that Pete! Mind you, it wouldn't be the first time a budget cover was played on the scene. There's also "Back In My Arms Again" by Val Palmer on Hit. Some of those Hit 45s are quite decent covers.

Yep you are right, Jenny & The Jewels, Ritchie Brown, both were popular especially J & The J's, Val Palmer is pretty rare actually, don't think I've ever had it. Funny that she went on to dj at the 100 Club though

  On 13/06/2012 at 12:55, Pete S said:

I'm not sure about that, I think there's a European twang to the vocals so it's probably an Italian group after all

Yes it is an Italian group, recorded another on Grand Prix and another on Star.

|Prego...... great record, Italian pop it may be. Rare it is... cheesy it is not. You want cheese and uncollectable then listen to Lenny Gamble, Muriel Day or Lorraine Silver... actually strike that, I quite like Lorraine Silver. Right I'll get me gun

Steve

  On 15/06/2012 at 15:15, soulman said:

|Prego...... great record, Italian pop it may be. Rare it is... cheesy it is not. You want cheese and uncollectable then listen to Lenny Gamble, Muriel Day or Lorraine Silver... actually strike that, I quite like Lorraine Silver. Right I'll get me gun

Steve

Indeed - both Lorraine Silver records are fantastic!

  On 15/06/2012 at 15:43, Pete S said:

Indeed - both Lorraine Silver records are fantastic!

Would have been even better if she hadn't of sang "Larst Summer, Larst Summer Love!.

It's last - like cast!

  On 15/06/2012 at 15:53, Peter99 said:

Would have been even better if she hadn't of sang "Larst Summer, Larst Summer Love!.

It's last - like cast!

Depends where you come from. I am from Bedford but live in Stockport. My two Stockport born sons would say Last, where as I am told I would say larst. Ha ha.

  On 15/06/2012 at 15:43, Pete S said:

Indeed - both Lorraine Silver records are fantastic!

Must agree Sir Pete which is why I said strike it. Nothing wrong with a bit of quality blue eyed soul, nothing wrong at all......

Steve

  On 15/06/2012 at 15:58, Steve Foran said:

Depends where you come from. I am from Bedford but live in Stockport. My two Stockport born sons would say Last, where as I am told I would say larst. Ha ha.

Last ... Lincolnshire, Larst... Bedford / Norfolk / Somerset... Lorst (curly talking country) Stockport, Burnley etc / Lest N Ireland / still a bloody good record no matter what accent she sings in. In fact, she's what I would class as fairly posh having spoken to her. Unlike me, being a mix of Lincolnshire origins and Huddersfield for the last twenty years so ..... Loooaaarssstttt Summer Luv...' appen as much as si thi'

Steve

Edited June 15, 201212 yr by soulman

  On 15/06/2012 at 15:15, soulman said:

|Prego...... great record, Italian pop it may be. Rare it is... cheesy it is not. You want cheese and uncollectable then listen to Lenny Gamble, Muriel Day or Lorraine Silver... actually strike that, I quite like Lorraine Silver. Right I'll get me gun

Steve

Here, here young man..................

  On 15/06/2012 at 15:53, Peter99 said:

Would have been even better if she hadn't of sang "Larst Summer, Larst Summer Love!.

It's last - like cast!

Sheeze fram Lunden, innit..................

  On 15/06/2012 at 16:08, soulman said:

Must agree Sir Pete which is why I said strike it. Nothing wrong with a bit of quality blue eyed soul, nothing wrong at all......

Steve